Separation by Choice-K & N

K: Aur kuch bacha hai kehne key liye...kitna kuch toh keh diya tumne un bechari ko (did Naira say anything to Suwarna? Karthik saw Naitik speaking to Suwarna or Naira? Suwarna herself took Naitik's name infront of Karthik he is saying that I killed my son not SHE is saying that I killed my son)

K: Jab kehna chahiye tha tab toh tumne kaha nahi aur ab itna suna diya tumne unhe...(Naira who was still concerned about Suwarna's condition would have sunaofied her...seriously?)

N: Karthik tum us baat ko lekar kab tak sunao gey mujhe?

K: haan sunaon ga kyunke karene sey pehle kuch sochti nahi aur jab kar diya tab manti nahi (when she didn't accept her mistake? In which track she did that? I've seen her apologizing after mistakes)...tumhari wajah sey yeh hua hai tumhari wajah sey mera bhai...

N: Bas karo Karthik tumhe andaza bhi hai key tum kya keh rahe ho...tum aisa kaise keh sakte ho Karthik...(well Naira he can the way u said tumhari wajah sey aj meri mama humare sath nahi remember?)...kitna hurt kiya ha tumne mujhe...

K: Tumhe andaza hai key tumne mujhe kitna hurt kiya hai? Tumhara dukh meri maa key dukh key agey kuch nahi hai Naira...apna beta khoya hai unho ney...tumhari wajah sey...tumhari ZID ki wajah sey (again a monologue)...kyun nahi bataya tumne humain...

N: Kyunke Shubham nahi chahta tha key yeh baat kisi ko pata chale who nahi chahta tha key woh sab sey door ho jaye...usne mujhpe trust kiya pata nahi kyu...par kiya...

K: Usne tumpe trust kiya par tumne mujhpar trust nahin kiya mujhe nahi bata payi (here he was right)

N: Karthik isme trust ki baat kahan sey ayi? (okey u can't tell everything and about everyone's problem to ur life-partner specifically when u promised them but I repeat drug addiction is very risky for life so ought to inform him first...Shubham's state was nothing less than Keerti's state when she was physically abused...when u didn't think twice to inform Karthik about it than why not in this case?)

K: humesha...hamesha Naira humesha yehi karti ho tum...humesha tum mujhpar tab trust karti ho jab baat tumhare haath sey nikaljati hai (remember Keerti's divorce and Aditya's motives...her low fertility issue...kabir's motives...he was the first one to know about them but yes she didn't inform him about...Naksh's sacrifice and that she previously signed abortion papers as Tina to save her friend...or she get affected by joru ka gulam tag for Karthik)...

K: Isbar bhi tumne yehi kiya hai HAR BAR main hi sambhalta hoon...(well during Naksh track Karthik's outburst worsened the situation but he was right as it was about his sister's happiness and self-esteem...during jkg he went to Rishikesh instead of handling the situation told Naitik that he can't speak to his dadi that way...once after marriage he handled the situation really well and that was during Raghav's track)...Is bar kaise sambhaon kaise laon apne bhai ko wapas...(will he be back by keeping Naira away from ur life?)...kaise samjhaon apni maa ko apne ap ko?

K: Aj tumhari wajah sey Shubham gaya hai...kal ko koi aur chala jaye ga...

N: Bas karo Karthik...

K: Tu bas karo aur maaf karo mujhe...(Momo was too freaking good here)

N: Main Shubham ko bachane key liye mani...

K: toh bacha?...bacha mera bhai? Nahin nan a hi humare beech koi trust bacha hai Naira...

N: Humare beech trust nahi bacha...Karthik kya humare beech trust nahi bacha...Karthik bolo na...kya humare beech trust nahi bacha...chup kyun ho bolo *jerking him*...(Shivi's voice modulation and portrayal of disbelief particularly here was also exceptionally freakin' good)

K: Nahin...(well trust is the foundation of any relationship husband-wife have trust issues...)

N: Theek hai phir toh mujhe chale jana chahiye...yahan sey bhi aur tumhari life sey bhi...ab humare beech kuch bacha hi nahi hai...na pyar...na wishvas...

K: haan haan kuch nahi bacha humare beech (tuning his face) na pyar na vishwas na koi understanding...

N: Theek hai toh phir main jati hoon (here she was right)

K: haan haan chali jao...jao...phele bhi toh ja chuki ho ab bhi chali joa...KOI FARK NAHI PARTA MUJHE...

N: I hate you

K: Turning his face seeing right into her eyes I hate u too Naira..

So Karthik confronted her and she told him about Shubham's wish...According to Karthik Naira don't trust him...he was somehow right in saying so as Naira was wrong in not informing him about Shubham's state as it wasn't anything casual it was case of drug addiction...whereas for Naira it wasn't a matter of trust...it was a matter of keeping a promise...than came my mom's grief is greater than yours there also he was right...but what about the grief of separating ur own son for 19 years and doing poja for Dead son for 19 years?...that time it was grief of choice so it's okey?...When there is no trust left in relationship there is nothing left...she informed that she is leaving him and he asked her to leave...it was separation of choice...here their dialogues...tum nahi aye aur "tum chali gayi from past one month seem too hollow...aur they wanted each other to swallow their pride...self-esteem and came back to him/her?...Karthik and Naira the individual entities should've considered about their relationship...forgetting all hurtful words they heard from each other?...Naira was wrong in not informing Karthik about Shubham and Karthik was wrong in assuming that Naira argued with Swarna or had verbal spat with her...

He was wrong in saying "tum chali gayi" and she was wrong in saying "tum nahi aye" specifically after mutually deciding to part ways...

Originally posted by: Yourway

I know Kartik thinks so and many fans as well, but I don't think Naira not telling Kartik about Shubham (and that too just for a day's intention) was because she didn't trust Kartik. Like you said, it was more of keeping the promise. Yeah, her mistake was that this time the thing concerned was sensitive. But she knew that and that's why she was determined to tell Kartik and the rest, just one day later.

Originally posted by: Yourway

I know Kartik thinks so and many fans as well, but I don't think Naira not telling Kartik about Shubham (and that too just for a day's intention) was because she didn't trust Kartik. Like you said, it was more of keeping the promise. Yeah, her mistake was that this time the thing concerned was sensitive. But she knew that and that's why she was determined to tell Kartik and the rest, just one day later.

Originally posted by: AnyaRSingh

🤪kartik has to buy the entire singhania holdings to gain nairas forgiveness this time plus destination groveling

Originally posted by: Henriette

i agree naira not telling kartik wasnt because of trust... it was more because she promised shubham she wont tell and to give shubham the opportunity to explain to his family about his addiction... coming from shubham would have been better for his family to understand his situation...

and i also found it weird that kartik couldnt tell his brother was using drugs but when he was living with the maheswaris he was able to tell that nannu is using drugs... again the inconsistency with the characters

i read a few posts last month about naira wanting to celebrate kartiks birthday and not ruin it by bringing shubhams truth forward... i found that absurd because even during the birthday celebrations naira asked shubhma to tell everyone... she wasnt concerned about kartiks birthday... she tried her best to keep an eye on him... only part i find naira wrong is she shouldnt have blindly trusted shubham but i guess she just wanted to give him the opportunity to explain to his family by himself

and im not overly religious or superstitious but wasnt swarna keeping prayer for her sons soul to be at peace in front of the family? i mean that could be karma... like you pretended he was dead for so many years and prayed for his soul to be at peace in front of the family... and what on the side she was going to the mandir to what reverse that prayer?... i just find that part to be karma... and i was never fully able to understand swarnas "sacrifice" of keeping shubham away... found her to be wrong then too

Originally posted by: vellainsaan

Let's assume for arguments sake that both were equally wrong/right in that situation. They said mean things, broke each other's hearts and mutually separated...

After 2 years.. Naira's character is progressing naturally.. she thinks her husband doesn't trust her, hates her, has thrown her out, doesn't want her back, she is trying to rebuild her life in a different city, study etc.

Kartik on the other hand, thinks Shubham died because of Naira (I'm sorry to say but Naira is not the reason for Shubham's death. Just NO) , she brings grief to the family, she hates him... so what does he do? Drinks and breaks things for two years.

But what on earth is he cribbing about? According to the flashback, they said their good byes in whatever ways .. why does he blame her for running away? She can actually complain that he doesn't trust her.. why is he complaining about anything? If he thinks she isn't a person he can trust or is immature etc.. then shouldn't he be happy about getting rid of her?

Why is he blaming her for moving on when he himself asked her to leave? Kuch bhi??? 🤔