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Posted: 14 years ago
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its all just true dat they can't concertrate but losing YRKKH is also sad, i mean its not their fault but its DKP that ruining it all!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_


👏loved ur post .....plz post this in RS blog..usko bhi akal aaye.....DKP team must start watching sasural genda phool to know how a family drama should be...how the screenplay is written..howz a well balanced script is written in which therez emotion, romance, drama & light moments of life ! how the interplay b/w characters happen.....does SGP have any plot like yrkkh? no ! but it's damn good !


What to say? A good ensemble is surely getting wasted and the patience of loyal fans is running thin …The producer must address some competence based issues if they really want to preserve their successful and established 'brand', before it's too late… For a start, they must find a good story based track suiting the young couple - consistent to their basic character etching so far as well as the fundamental bonding in this relationship. The whole plot should have been competently DELIBERATED before the implement. The built up and 'complications' should be well defined and logically sound, unlike the haphazard, 'eleventh hour-spur of the moment' trash, that is being shoved down on us nowadays. The supporting casts and their actions should be consistent, sensible and contributory to the plot (both- in negative or supportive miens) and not one dimensional- over the top- exasperating incredulities that they are habitually dishing out. Then all these should logically culminate in a palatable climax where the 'remedies' and final tackling should be well planned-rather very carefully planned, from the beginning; logical, sensible, endearing both the leads further in the minds of viewers and contributing to further strengthening of the relationship ( as per their motto). The point is good planning and thorough 'deliberations' from the outset of a track and then its faithful implementation (unlike directionless navigation/wandering of the tale- of recent tracks). If all these and a crisp competent script, then there is no reason to miss the peak again.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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this serial is gtg boar..😔
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth

What to say? A good ensemble is surely getting wasted and the patience of loyal fans is running thin 'The producer must address some competence based issues if they really want to preserve their successful and established 'brand', before it's too late' For a start, they must find a good story based track suiting the young couple - consistent to their basic character etching so far as well as the fundamental bonding in this relationship. The whole plot should have been competently DELIBERATED before the implement. The built up and 'complications' should be well defined and logically sound, unlike the haphazard, 'eleventh hour-spur of the moment' trash, that is being shoved down on us nowadays. The supporting casts and their actions should be consistent, sensible and contributory to the plot (both- in negative or supportive miens) and not one dimensional- over the top- exasperating incredulities that they are habitually dishing out. Then all these should logically culminate in a palatable climax where the 'remedies' and final tackling should be well planned-rather very carefully planned, from the beginning; logical, sensible, endearing both the leads further in the minds of viewers and contributing to further strengthening of the relationship ( as per their motto). The point is good planning and thorough 'deliberations' from the outset of a track and then its faithful implementation (unlike directionless navigation/wandering of the tale- of recent tracks). If all these and a crisp competent script, then there is no reason to miss the peak again.

i so much agree with u..
marriage is such a long journey.. there is a lot to show to the vieweres.. n with the certain cinematic liberties which the cv's get.. this cud hav been most beautifully written serials of this tym.. in other serials.. there is no logic.. no sense.. we dnt find things happening in day to day lives.. but yeh rishta is sumthng that we all can relate too.. i as a daughter of my house can relate to it because my mother went through the similar sets of problems.. mind u.. only PROBLEMS.. and not the solution.. coz solutions to various issues are not etched out properly.. itz just that cv's do not concentrate on them.. n that too being women (as @flgators ritely said).. and the main reason here is diversion of attention.. (may be.. this is wat i feel while watching yeh rishta) and incapability of the creatives to manage diiferent aspects of the serial and then showing them..
u very ritely said.. proper planning is required when u r handling such a diverse issue.. that of a marriage.. wat all can u show.. wat all can u not show.. n the main question.. HOW are the things to be shown... this is required.. sitting one day before the episode airs and writing such vague solutions to sensible tracks is wat i call the BIGGEST flaw of cv's.. n this is not because of lack of logic.. itz because lack of sensibility here.. coz if viewers wanted sum logic.. showz lyk pavitra rishta.. uttaran.. and laagi tujhse lagan wudn't hav been doing so well..
Edited by moonlight08 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: FLGators

Two things still puzzle me about Akshara. First, she is defending Sneha who she barely knows and second she never tried to find out what really happened. Any sane girl wouldn't defend an outsider, would she? Yes, maybe if your husband is a perpetual offender. But here everybody knows Naitik is a very closed person except Akshara? Does that make sense after sharing the bed with this man for close to a year?

Why would you not find out what really happened? Is it because you blindly believe what your partner tells you? Would have made sense if that was the case but here she blindly believes the "other woman"😆

Yeh kaunsa logic hai yaar? Iska matlab Akshara is really stupid? Time and again this girl has been portrayed as nothing but below average be it in college ya khana banana. So many times she has messed up household chores despite trying so hard to be Super bahu. Its a disgrace to most of us girls. That to coming from women heading the creative team.

Forget the kitchen, at least let her show her smarts when it comes to romance ka maamla. Waha pur be zero. Women excel in being romantic and are die hards when it comes to romance but not Akshara. Waha pur bhi muskil se Munna ko kuch milta hai. Ab kitna time hogaya, no play for Munna? Aisa hota hai kya between newly weds? You wouldn't want to keep your hands off each other. The only time she talked about romance was Oct 12th uske baad zilch. She has been portrayed as nothing but a glorified Gulabo for the Singhania's. Time for a change either in her portrayal or the serial.....DK loosing its mojo😆

@black..
itz not only just these two things.. each and everything about her puzzles me.. she does not give an explanation to naitik about her deeds n everytym she goes beating aroung the bush ki her husband doesn't understand her.. she hides the fact that daughter of the household has fallen for her YOUNGER brother's friend.. n then expects naitik to forgive her so easily (i was watching akshara moving out the house episode a day before.. n she was.. naitik kya hum iss bat ko yaha khatm nhi kar sakte.?? maine mana mujhse galti hui hai.. plz mujhe itni badi saza mat dijiye) n wen the same burden cums on her.. which is not as serious as the mohini issue.. (as of now).. she wants sum more tym to think upon wat has happened.. n yes.. how true.. she has never really tried to investigate about wat actually happened.. sneha se apne pati ke kie pe maafi to mang li.. par kya usse ye poochna nhi hota ki ek bar mujhe bta do akhir mere pati ne kia kya hai.?? pati ki image ki vaise to badi chinta hai.. "ma ye misunderstanding thi".. "sharda ji.. ye misunderstanding thi".. to kya vo sneha ko convince nhi kr sakti thi ki wat all happened was nothing more but a misunderstanding.??
@red..
according to cv's.. akshara is been portrayed as a timid girl who is learning the meaning of life after her marriage.. she was always lyk this.. below average.. before the marriage.. n even after the marriage.. cv's shud hav shown a transition from a shy and timid girl to a more responsible bahu n even more than that.. an ideal wife.. initially.. itz tough to adjust in a new environment.. i agre.. but wat about after an year.?? are the things still new to u that even now u r doing sum mistakes or the other.?? n the mistakes which akshara is doing are not small ones.. sending stale sweets to her nanad's sasural wale's is a very big mistake.. n this cannot be forgotten so easily.. ofcourse.. the mistake was of halwai.. but ultimate mistake was of akshara.. she shud checked the sweets before sending.. this track was nothing but a way to delay diwali over a month..
@blue..
exactly..
a marriage of just one year is not wat they are showing.. the couple still hav a lot to explore.. itz just a year n akshara has already started spending more tym in the kitchen than her own bedroom.. n naitik has already started complaining ki akshara doesn;t give her tym.. ever imagined wat wud happen after 10years.?? yahi natak chalta rha to akshara madm aapka divorce to pakka hai.. aur agar aisa nhi hua to naitik pakka kisi aur ladki ke liye feel krne lag jaega..
itz high tym akshara needs to realise wat her priorities are.. n itz high tym cv's hav a clear picture in their mind of wat they want to show us..
Edited by moonlight08 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_



the problem is with the plot itself ....of course, none of the characters are consistent....what i liked abt naitik was that he had a mind of his own....if he argued with akshara over kat, he apologized to her..if he was egoistic, he made a demand to meet akshara again..... he made sure that akshara isn't saying yes for the marriage under her parental pressure.....everytime he mad a mistake n hurted akshara, he apologized to her in a unique way....if he's mean to her at times then he showers his love on her also ! if he said that akshara means the world to him, he proved it.....but constantly he's being bullied by daddaji, akshara and gayitri and made to do what they want ! Akshara is in total contrast to what she was.....she gets influenced so easily by ppl. around her ke they can control her any way they want to....rajshri , gayitri, daddaji..she's become a cool combo of the 3 🤢 and wants naitik to follow suit..that's why therez a kind of generation gap that has come b/w naksh when was the last time akshara appreciated anything that naitik did? be it taking her to maayka or movie or dinner or holiday or helping her with the household responsibilities , the list is endless....NEVER actually !

if the makers don't have a plot then they must end the serial....arre trust hi kyun, therez no understanding , no honesty & no companionship b/w the couple ! hota hai..nahi hoti kitne couples mein..but they claim to love each other na? then why not? doesn't akshara show so much understanding with naitik's family? then why not with naitik? i agree with u that till date they haven't shown 1 situation wherein naksh trusted each other...frm the time they got married, either one of them is always naraz frm the other....or the family is....gayitri said that naitik needs to grow up...before that, the elders of singhania family need to grow up big time ! they are worse than kids.....if something doesn't go daddaji's way then he goes inside his room mooh fula ke and the family keeps on discussing "tumhare daddaji naraz ho gaye"...is he their role model? 🤢 they never understand their children and force their values on them..it's bec. of their attitude that their children cannot make decisions on their own and are scared to tell little things to them.....otherwise naitik would have discussed sneha's problem with gayitri or at least his father ! sharing of problems doesn't exist at any level..in b/w family members or naksh...

everytime they've shown that youngsters try to do something on their own or take a decision, they always fail ! why couldn't they show that shaurya cud stand on two feet w/o his father's help? they cud have developed this track so well but it was wasted ! a whole new life can be discovered by living independent ! it has it's advantages......nandini's track was fab. but it was again wasted in stupid narazgi's like why didn't u talk to me on phone etc....nandini obviously took a wrong decision...what msg did they give? in favor of love marriage or against it? naitik returned the house..why? he can't buy a property of his own? he can't convince his family for a small thing? and now this sneha track ! turned ridiculous with akshara's bewakoofi bhara stand and naitik's poodlism ! 🤢

problem is not with the plot di.. problem is with the screenplay.. plot is very simple.. "life after marriage".. the screenplay is difficult to understand.. characters were a strong point of the serial.. but too bad.. even that is gone now.. akshara.. shy.. timid.. gentle.. humble.. subtle girl before marriage.. who shud hav ideally turned into a dutiful bahu n a doting wife.. is now a mere clone of her mother.. n this is wat is disappointing me.. naitik ideally.. shud hav not changed much after marriage.. yes.. he shud hav becum a more responsible being.. considering the fact that he now has a wife to take care of.. but the basic traits shud hav remained the same.. egoistic.. yet emotional.. and short-tempered.. yet very sensitive.. but even he has turned into a full on "joru ka gulaam" n this is not wat is expected of him.. he shud hav been the same as he was in front of akshara wen he was meeting her for the 2nd tym.. "main ladka hu.. main nhi jhukunga.. lekin agar aapko lagta hai ki i hav hurt u.. m sry.." this is wat is expected of him.. humble.. yet very firm on his principles.. living in a marwadi family.. he has these values.. n he shud be proud of them.. but wat is happening these days.. "akshara.. mujhe maf kar dijiye.. akshara hum ye kare.. akshara hum vo kare.??" wat is this.?? at one point of tym.. i felt the cv's were trying to portray naitik the same way has he was shown in the starting.. wen he sed "aap kuch thik hone hi nhi dengi.. aap hi bta dijiye main kya karu.. main to haar chuka hu aapko manate manate".. but that too.. was vaguely etched out.. n hence cudn't be brought out the way it shud hav been..
i dnt find any problems with daddaji di.. may be because i hav sum1 as him in my house.. or even more stricter i shud say.. my dadaji.. he's also the same way.. my mother has to take ghunghat in fron of him.. daddaji has still allowed akshara not to take it.. my dadaji still hasn;t allowed her.. n itz 19years of my mother's marriage.. yes.. the tym was different.. but gist remains ki there are a few ppl in the household who object to changing pattern in the lifestyle.. they r not rite.. i agree.. but.. that's the way they hav been all their lyf.. morover.. i find his character the only one who has not been ruined by cv's.. rite from the starting.. he's always been protrayed as traditons-abiding human being.. being the patriarch of his family.. he has full rite to question his family members about their deeds..
n yes.. solutions are a problem rite from the starting.!! shaurya allowing varsha to continue studies.. his leaving the house n then cuming bak out of the blue.. the kaka-kaki track.. akshara moving out of the house track.. naitik gifting akshara a house track.. n this.. sneha-naitik-akshara love triangle track.. they r all on the same lines.. very scattered screenplay i shud say.. n there's only one solution.. devotion of more tym to yeh rishta by the cv's n proper research before starting off with the script and screenplay part.. it wud actually help..
Edited by moonlight08 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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YR started going down the you know what after its marriage track... it was good before that after it didnt have anything really.

I watch it once in a blue moon!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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yeh rishta has lost its charm...
i agree with u ppl...tht plot & charcter arent consistent.....🥱

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