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Posted: 7 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Veda1125

Hi Nivi,

Your posts are awesome as always!
Beautiful caps! Like the pictorial parallel u have drawn in their hugs!
I have yet to watch the episode.
The whole Shanti /Rakesh drama is little hard for me to digest! Shanti was a good teacher and popular one. As an individual when u invest ur heart and soul in the work you do and if u are passionate about it, why should one victimize oneself take the blame for a wrongdoing that one has not committed in the first place? How does Shanti expect that she will get another job without the past influencing ?
If the writers want to simply draw parallels between Sameer's and Naina's guilt then the path that they chose for Naina was a messy one.
PVKM is hatke with its rules and regulations as u rightly pointed out. Will wait for
Zulu 's vishes tippani on this😉😆.
No matter how good the story is, the sabun world always falls prey to some inconsistencies, occasional shabby writing or illogical plots. I guess the pressure of churning out daily soaps.
Always endearing to see SamMundit in the same frame. I don't know how Dadi slapped Mundit? Even if she was just looking for an excuse, Is it so easy to slap someone outside ur family even if this was Un dino Ki Baat?


Thanks Veda 😊

Completely agree on this. Illogical tracks and us trying to find logic in them has become part of the daily soap world !

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Posted: 7 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: truptishree

Hi Nivi

Yes it was a very painful episode but I loved it for various reasons minus KeDi and SS drama.
Nothing to comment about Dadi.
How she will let it go when it comes to her insult? She took revenge for it from Mundit by defaming them and slapping them.
Those slaps were unnecessary,she could have just talked.
I think Vishakha got to know but she kept quiet there. She knows them that they will never do such thing.
Finally Keshav got what he deserved. A slap, I wish more could have been there.
I would have felt better for all the torture our kiddo went through chalo no problem,little solace.
Hope it happens in future.
Poor Samundit! God I felt so bad for them with them I also cried.
Mundit what to say about them ,they are not worried about their humiliation but worried for Sameer That He will be all alone again.
Finally that day came ,my wish got fulfilled about Sam Vishakha hug. He hugged her back.
It was so nice to see totally loved VO here.
So true since he came to Delhi he never got any happiness,all hurt him but first time he felt better because his mom supported him and promised Mundit that she will never leave him alone.
Hope she keeps her promise and gives him all the love and attention so he will never wander again.
IDK Nivi but I will disagree with you why Sameer was not remorseful or guilty that he should have taken stand for Mundit,but is it really possible for him now do that?
He did wanted to confess to his mom but Mundit stopped him. They were so right he will not be able to live in that house afterwards,Dadi will not leave any opportunity to humiliate him.
Look at him, he himself is so broken,all alone so confused with whatever happening in his life.
It's not like he never took stand for them or never supported them,it's just right now all the things are against him and he is fighting the battle all alone to get adjust in new environment.
As for Naina she has all the support,surrounded by people who wants her and love her.
Her taking a stand for Shanti teacher is good but if you ask me whenever she talks about truthfulness or somebody else paying for someone's mistake I can't help but wonder about a hypocrisy here.
I know I am gonna get bashed for this but why she didn't took a stand for Sameer when she got to know truth about Arjun being paper chor.
Now if she wants to rectify her mistake so Shanti teacher will not get punished then she should do that for Sameer also,try to clear his name then yes I will also say that she is true to her beliefs and morals.
I really like Naina's character for the things she believes and does but this one thing about her I can't forget and bring myself to forgive her for that. When bet happened we all blamed Sameer for the heartbreak he caused Naina, but she never tried to find about the reason for that bet.
I know now it's not the time to talk about but when she questioned principal sir I couldn't help but wonder what about her? Or is it will always be like this that somebody else has to pay for their mistakes?
Sameer for Arjun,Mundit for Sameer,Shanti teacher for Naina it's like never ending cycle.
Really hope that they will learn from their mistakes and emerge as a responsible people.
Precap looks promising,Sameer wants to work so he can be occupied,good.
So now we will get song dedication, looking forward to it.
Episode belonged to Randeep/Sanjay/Raghav/Vaishnavi ji/Ashi.




Hi Trupti

Keshav slap was nothing for me, the next minute he was smiling when SaMundit were trapped. 😡

More than Naina trying to find out about the reason for the bet, I was expecting MunDit to tell her Sameer's POV. The FBs showed that Sameer placed the bet after being slapped by Rakesh. It is not clear whether Arjun or Naina realize that Sameer placed the bet because his mother broke relations with him, he was called a thief. The way Arjun confronted Sameer in that fight scene was becasue he lost the headboy competition Sameer placed the bet. I wish Naina understood Sameer's state when he placed the bet, not that I am defending what he did.

But, yes Naina didn't try to get the truth out once she came to know Sameer was not the thief. I guess by the time she came to know of the truth everything (the tension) had all dies out and everything seemed normal to her and she moved on and was busy with Sameer's reciprocation !
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Posted: 7 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: Sakshi607

Nice post and lovely caps Nivi. Thanks for your thread Nivi, we have a place to rant, rave and bond too. Aapka bahut bahut sukriya.

Coming to the epi after two brilliant episodes this was ok. KeDi drama bahut hua. Ab bas karo cvs aur dekh nahi payenge. I think now sam understood the gravity of his mistake. He realised with munnas slap but i think he now knows that his mistakes are not just affecting him but his dear ones. From now i think sam will be careful not to give dadi any room to plot against him. Untill now he reacted how a hot blooded 17 yr old would and that gave dadi the opportunities to make his life miserable. i think this mawali track was not just to show what happens when a 17 yr old is lonely and neglected but for sam to realise that he has to stop getting provoked by dadi and stop giving her reasons to harm him. I think he has learnt his lesson. It would have been nice if Vishaka also came to know abt her sons friendship with mawali gang and realise that her coldness and not giving attention to sam is harming her son. Then this track would have been more meaningful.

Nainas gulit was beautifully portrayed by ashi. Her taking stand for shanthi teacher was remarkable. I think she will tell that the letter was hers and cover it up saying it was for some magazine, nibandh etc. Even after naina proves shanthi teacher innocent she should resign and walk away with dignity. That will be a tight slap to rakesh. I think dadi and he are beyond redemption. Daadis track should end witb delhi and rakesh is shown less. I think even in future he will reluctantly agree for samaina marriage becoz others will agree and pressurise him to say yes. Otheswise i have no hopes from him.

PVKM ka kya kehna. Woh school hi alag hai. Yahake students, teachers, principal sab ek ajooba hai jo hamare samajh ke bahar hai.

I think that dialogue by kamya abt chor is not the one who steals but the one who is caught might play in future. Now naina is stressed but once calm might reflect on what kamya said and might remember the papee chori incident. She might atleast confess it to sam. I want her family also to know specially rakesh so that he will stop flying so high.

Precap accha tha. Now we will get song dedication. BTW i liked sams double colouredT-Shirt, pullover, sweater whatever it was but it was very nice. He looked so handsome in that.


Welcome Sakshi, I am glad to provide this thread for all of us.😳

@bold: Completely agree. I wish they had shown this. Also, maybe seeing this side of his mother, one day he will be able to confess to his mother about his wrong doings.

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Posted: 7 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: jasw

Hi Nivi, so much drama onscreen and offscreen!

I really don't understand why they needed Shanti teacher and M&P as the scapegoat. Why humiliate nice people? What was the purpose? MAke the leads feel guilty? I really hate when they start with this kasam wasam drama!

Anyways I kinda liked the loop when Vishakha hugged Sameer and he hugged her back. Long ago Vishakha had left Sameer when he was wrongly accused of paper stealing. That day Sameer was innocent but got the punishment. Today although he was wrong in getting himself associated with wrong company, he got back his mother's love. Some kind of poetic justice, I must say.

I did not like the students -principal interaction in Princi's room. It was kind of too casual, the way Naina cut him short when he was about to say his couplet was not very respectful.😛

Will Naina confess? I doubt.


Hi Jas !

Wow ! Such a nice observation Jas 👍🏼 I hope Sameer does ponder over this.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: aardhan

Nivi, episode was philosophical today. It was an emotional roller coaster... I was right yesterday, Mundit were blamed and sent out... one always faces the consequences for their mistakes. And in Sameer and Naina's case their near and loved ones suffered insults... a consequence neither would've ever wanted. They will carry this guilt for a long time but rest assured they will learn and grow.

Life has always been Sameer's teacher... he has learnt everything he knows from his different experiences... books have not really taught him much. Yes, he goes to school, studies, but just enough to pass...but for the most part he is a self-taught man... makes mistakes, learns, grows and makes sure he never repeats them again. And being alone in a hostel for the most part, adult guidance has been minimum and maybe restricted to the months he spent with Nanu.


"Mere paas bhi maa hai"... got to give it to the dialog writers in this show. They never fail! 👏 Finally Sameer found his mother... he hugged her for the first time in his life. I have always enjoyed this mother-son duo... they have a sizzling chemistry that is so believable. Ah, those earliest episode... they both fought so passionately... and now mom and son are going to bond with the same passion. In the beginning we saw how Vishaka was influenced with the Somani way of thinking about Sameer. But in the last two months since Nanu's death she has understood Sameer a lot more... and he has taken a lot of initiative in that. He has literally fought a lone battle to open his mother's eyes, and he has won her over now. 👏


Both are complex people, with their feelings running very deep and the years of separation has created a yearning in them... they have both suffered the same separation. And today, when Kedi repeated the same cigarette saga Vishaka broke her silence... she went to Sameer and consoled him. And see what happened... Sameer understood his mother trusted him. So now along with Naina, Mundit, even his mother trusts him... he will never waiver from the right path. This is what I had mentioned earlier... she should have done this after the cigarette, then Sameer would not have gone out too much with those buys. Anywoo... now they will hold on to each other and never let go. And you know the more Vishaka stays and supports Sameer the more the other two kids will also bond with Sameer... I hope we see a rakhi scene. Sameer's first rakhi... it will be a sigh for sore eyes.


The moment daadi mentioned VCR, Sameer knew. Boy, am I glad his instincts and ability to judge people are coming back now. 👏 And I liked Mundit stopped him both times from exposing himself and pleaded him to think rationally. The very fact that Sameer was willing to go through another hell to clear their name was enough for them... and they were correct, they both were leaving anyway... loved how Sameer kept hugging them... even pulling them into that crushing hug when they made him promise. All three acted wonderfully. After the initial reaction, when Pandit stopped him, I actually liked that Sameer took his time and then decided he would confess... that's how guys react, they are more pragmatic, after the initial shock wears off. And in Sameer's case a confession would have meant leaving to house but he had nowhere to go or like Mundit explained live in a condition that was worse than now.


Coming to Naina... loved her concern for her teacher. She just could not accept anything Shanti said to convince her... but Shanthi is correct. Naina was being too emotional, she has to learn to be more rational. So she still goes ahead with the farewell... the idea is good, and her execution of it too... actually reminded me of what Sameer did for PTA. 😳 Naina, today displayed the same amount of boldness... its so nice to see her going back to the gutys girl she used to be... who fell in love despite knowing her family and circumstances... and found ways to stay with her love.


i would also say Naina has come full circle today... there was a time when she was not brave enough to stand up against her father and brother when her brother stole the paper and she let Sameer take the fall... and the continuous insults after that. But today that same girl is unwilling to let another take a blame... again a trait she learnt from Sameer... she even said she will not let an innocent be blamed... and today when Rakesh pounced on her, she still stood her ground. Of course there was safety in numbers...Ashi was so natural in her scene with Shanthi...


So wonder what will Naina say... will she reveal or will she cover up by saying she and Swathi were practicing letter writing and experimented with a love letter for fun. But Shanthi found it and thought it was real, so she hid it not wanting any student to suffer ... I am certain Naina will weave a story that will restore Shanthi's respect... but I think she will still resign... I would love her to give a fitting retort to Rakesh before she leaves...


Precap: I'm glad Sameer wants to work... just school and HW is not going to keep him out of daadi's way... and he wants to do something constructive to beat his loneliness... I'm excited because it will be the first time SAmeer will work to earn money... another practical life exercise for him. Remember Nanu told him money was important ... now he will realize the value of it. ... a good lesson for a budding businessman. And maybe he will find a quiet place in the studio to do his HW in peace as well...he may learn dedication, fortitude and hard work here... all the three are Naina's traits. 😃


Aarti, awesome post a very positive perspective of the proceedings.👏

First Rakhi for Sameer, please please CVs are you listening ? He deserves it.

That's what it is probably - Naina was emotional/jazbaati and Sameer was practical. Hence the difference in the way they reacted.

About the precap, I guess you are right he will learn the value of money because it is his hard earned money and not Nanu's to spend away like before.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: umam

NIvi..thanks for the post and the parallel caps tell the story so well..

I liked the epi for the way in which both Naina and Munna stood out 👏⭐️ actually the points that mundit gave to S for taking the blame were convincing..

Vishakha mamatha jaag uthna somehow looked like without a base. Did it take Mundit to land there in dilli, and the cassett incident to take place for her to realize that she is all that her son has in Dilli .. Before the cig incident and this one, she never got an inkling of how lost Sameer is Though I am glad for Sameer to get his mom back, the realization on V's part looked rushed to me..

Those brave words that she will stand by S.. keeping my fingers crossed .. atleast S is assured that his mother is there with him..

Naina - what is she going to reveal.. maybe she will inform that Shanthi teacher took a kasam from her to not to reveal the name of the student, in the student's interest... she will cleverly manage to clear the teacher's name..



Welcome Gowri 😊

Naina definitely will not reveal her name, she will come up with something convincing. PKVM really don't need any logical reasoning anyways 😆


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Posted: 7 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: violette

thnx for this review Dixie..

U r right, Naina's tears and guilt were more potent than Sameer's .. may b what Naina does after this wud really open up his eyes..

It's difficult to accept such shameful degrading truth to ur elders.. watching po*n, teasing girls, indulging in gang wars with lafanga friends r too cheap and despicable activities thn writing a love letter.

Munna was right Sameer couldn't have lived in the same house with dignity and same amnt of self respect had he accepted the truth.. but he does need to confess it to the right person at right time with right kind of remorse for ppl to really forgive him.

Yesterday, he just realized the gravity of his foolishness and how sometimes ur dear one's have to pay for ur stupidity..

But he has a long way to go in seeking pardon and reforming himself..

Naina on the other hand was always likes this, as u pointed out correctly. Never wud she let other suffer for her mistakes. and feels extremely guilty abt it.. b it lying to her chacha-chachi, letting thm down by failing in exams, judging Sam's character prematurely and tries to rectify her mistakes. For her dignity, honor and self respect of others matters as much as hers.

So I really want to know how she will bring Shanti Mam out of this dishonour. Surely, she cannot confess otherwise it will defy the purpose of Shanti Mam's sacrifice.

Whatever happens, at least she tried and that shows her intentions..and readiness to take responsibility of her actions and take it on chin whatever comes against her in future

yes, naina and MUnna were the most impressive character yesterday.

And did Sameer give braclet or earrings? I guess thy were ear rings...

Wud love to see her wwearing those when thy meet next..
😳

but as per spoiler IF video there seems to b hit and miss with this dance competition as well...

Lets just skip to May... 😆


Welcome violette. Do Let us know your name here.

@bold: Yes, I hope Sameer will confess one day to both Naina and his mother for this. Although if he did it years later, it won't have the same effect. I hope it happens soon especially to his mother.

Were those earrings ? The ones that Amrita gave him to give to Naina ? Makes sense, I thought it was a watch 😆



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Posted: 7 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: anjalii123

I didnt like the episode nivi.. Kittu gidwani is jus gettin worse n worse in performance:((..these days her wig luks weird too ..This delhi track wasnt put to gud use @all..it wud have been so gud had they showed siblings bond instead of al the nonsense drama they have been showin.. Keshav n Dadis drama wasn't required..even if they wanted to show Dadi not liking Sameer n doin some stuff to get him out of the house wud have been lille acceptable but todays slapping of Mundit was unacceptable to even watch..Slapping 17 yr olds for no fault is jus not required even for trps..didnt like it one bit.. N i didn't understand sameers expressions @ all whn mundit were packin in the room to leave.. even while hugging them i somehow found it funny instead of sadness..No offense to Randeep.. im jus pointing out to Sameer 😳 ..n like i have been mentionin in the earlier posts too,Shanti mams drama by cvs wasn't required.. The students also knw abt the letter ??isnt it humiliating for a teacher..Wat r the cvs tryin to show thru this..a teacher being blamed for wat a student did n the students knw abt it?? Im not likin this bit at al nivi..
Im confused wit Vishakas character.. the cvs have lost plot midway regardin rohans n Vishakas characters i feel..sorry nivi to keep rantin on ur thread,jus not able to like the episodes lately .. too much logic missin


Hi Anjali,

I agree, something was missing Randeep and Sameer were a bit different for me in that hug scene with MunDit. His expressions didn't come out properly there.


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Posted: 7 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: -Ross-

Hi Nivi,
Thanks for review and caps and for these threads warna hamari kaun sunta.
The episode was OK, and I knew it was coming, they have given us back to back awesome epis so it was quite natural considering soap opera.


Agreed Sam and Naina's behaviour on owning faults is different and I think , to understand this parallelism we have to go back to another parallelism of the day both had confessed their mistakes and reactions of others. Naina had Chachaji, a pillar of strength while Vishakha for Sam was wishy washy.
Maybe Naina has chachaji's full support in her mind and it's giving her courage, Sam can't handle it solely. Emotional support is must and I hope Vishakha's actions (not words) after today's hug will give him that emotional support.
Vishakha yeh blue saari roz pehna karo.Mamta ko jagaane wali saari.😆


Daadi ki ek baat to manna padegi, bandi planning zabardast karti hai, itna dimag politics me lagaati toh aaj ex-PM kehlati.kitchen politics ke chakkar me apna career barbad kar baithi.😆
Jokes apart, She had planned well in advance when Mundit had given her filmy gyan, she took filmy revenge. The reason Sam is not caught is his sheer luck and now when he realised his mistakes and becoming responsible Daadi ki yeh khwahish adhoori hi rahegi.

@Kavitha...Rishina Kandhari (Shanti teacher) is PH ki fav, they will cast her in another show. Just like Abha Parmar(Taiji).


Welcome Ross.. Its my pleasure to read all the posts in here.

The hug was a very good progression in their relationship. Both are trying to mend their relationship and it is very nice to see that. Vishaka needs to show this support openly now, needs to defy Daadi infront of Sameer giving him the confidence that his mother will stand by him aganist all odds. Hopefully that will be her next step.

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Posted: 7 years ago
#70

Originally posted by: sky-if

@bold 😆 I still don't get what the Shanthi teacher fiasco is meant for but totally agree - today it felt like the CVs got so carried away by Naina being the FL that they forgot she is still in school!

PS: Love your commentary about PVKM!😃

Thank you dear...the makers are trying to show Naina great but don't know how...so kahi bhi shuru kardo😆

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