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Posted: 7 years ago
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Direction, screenplay and editing have been inconsistent from Mount Abu times I feel. There have been some good episodes and good shots like the antakshari night, confession scene etc, but overall standard has dipped.

Writing in particular needs a lot of improvement. Creative team.

The initial episodes with Ambie and Jai Sengh were the best. Consistent and beautiful. Yeah but it's also a fact that things get difficult as they progress. Initially we are more acceptive as well.

As for the current episodes, I think they had actually shot a lot more. But for whatsoever reasons they are in a hurry now and are chopping scenes; totally opposite to the wedding track where they were slow.

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Like someone pointed, the spoiler articles matter a lot too. Without even knowing if they're genuine, we ourselves tend to assume a lot and set high standards. Another reason - Instagram Stories. Honestly everybody from the cast do it in some way, by revealing the looks or location or something. But I guess most of them are cautious too. Especially Randeep, Somy, Hema, Sanjay and Raghav don't post things that let us guess the scene or setting. We hardly see between shots pics or videos from the Maheshwari residence, or Arjun Shefali scenes.

The junior artists go overboard at times though. Someone actually shared a page from the script.

Out of place here , but In way I'm happy that Randeep and Ashi do not share many offscreen pics/moments of theirs like the other pairs do. The fact that we are not use to seeing Randeep-Ashi together in frame, is actually giving Naina- Sameer scenes the feel that they're supposed to have.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: KashafZaroon30


Kavita aaj Nivi ke post pe toh halla machna hai

Sameer's scream was muted, farewell scenes were a mess, camera was not focussing anyone properly, Sameer's munshiji shout was the worst for me😕




Hehe! Randeep has serious difficulty in pitching his voice high. The Mount Abu scream, today's Munshi Kaka, and even his "kya" at times; they sound so strained that I feel his vocal chord might break any moment 😆 One can't do much about one's voice, but I guess Randeep too could something like Ashi does. Practising with a harmonium to modulate voice better. I really liked her for that.
Edited by cosmosandme - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: cosmosandme

Direction, screenplay and editing have been inconsistent from Mount Abu times I feel. There have been some good episodes and good shots like the antakshari night, confession scene etc, but overall standard has dipped.

Writing in particular needs a lot of improvement. Creative team.

The initial episodes with Ambie and Jai Sengh were the best. Consistent and beautiful. Yeah but it's also a fact that things get difficult as they progress. Initially we are more acceptive as well.

As for the current episodes, I think they had actually shot a lot more. But for whatsoever reasons they are in a hurry now and are chopping scenes; totally opposite to the wedding track where they were slow.

****

Like someone pointed, the spoiler articles matter a lot too. Without even knowing if they're genuine, we ourselves tend to assume a lot and set high standards. Another reason - Instagram Stories. Honestly everybody from the cast do it in some way, by revealing the looks or location or something. But I guess most of them are cautious too. Especially Randeep, Somy, Hema, Sanjay and Raghav don't post things that let us guess the scene or setting. We hardly see between shots pics or videos from the Maheshwari residence, or Arjun Shefali scenes.

The junior artists go overboard at times though. Someone actually shared a page from the script.

Out of place here , but In way I'm happy that Randeep and Ashi do not share many offscreen pics/moments of theirs like the other pairs do. The fact that we are not use to seeing Randeep-Ashi together in frame, is actually giving Naina- Sameer scenes the feel that they're supposed to have.


i completely agree wit u on this..I actually mentioned this on another post..Randeep and the other cast shud b appreciated ..im glad they dnt post pics or spoilers which make us keep assumin something and spoilin al the interest for us..He tried keepin the sari suspense too sayin tat he purchased and lied to Naina tat its Nanis sari,and we all beleived tat olv..but then all of us luved the fact tat it was Nanu who gifted the sari to Naina..Tat was definitely a surprise..
I have nothing against the guy playin Rohan,but i jus wished he stopped posting pics of on location..The cvs purposely didnt reveal abt the lille gurl @ somanis,and today suddenly the pic popped up..The problem is we tend to keep assumin stuff and if the track isnt played the way we think,we get disappointed..No offense to the actor @ all..
N yeah the junior artists of this show have actually become another headache i wud say..How can they post the scene dialogues..Isnt it somethin wrong..The lesser we know abt the story ahead,the better we can njoy witout gettin disappointed..
Edited by anjalii123 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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When a serial is about to introduce hitherto never heard of family members in the form of a half sister (?) it is a clear indication that the script is being developed on the fly!

I can accept that a serial cannot deliver superlative episodes everyday becos to deliver 20 odd minutes of compelling and meaningful content is very difficult in this medium which has challenges of all kinds. Yet, to have the end goal of the story the storyteller had in mind is important.

What drew me to this serial was not the nostalgia of the 90s even though it has a special charm as I completely relate to that era; I was actually drawn to the plotline as I saw in YUDKBH a chance for a lovely love tale to emerge...of two people choosing different pathways to the realisation of their love. The situational barriers of the times adding the necessary spice to their tale of two kindred souls. For most part they have kept the story telling tight and while there are some minor disappointments, I have complained far less becos I understand that keeping every aspect of this serial making in a top notch form day in and day out is a tuf ask; the screenplay, editing, direction, camerawork, set props, costumes and last but not the least the cast..so honestly I am often ready to compromise if I can see some element shine more than the others...
Unfortunately...today and portions of yesterday seemed to let down the vision of this tale..In a hurry to separate the two lovebirds... the writers seemed to contrive at every step the famous foreshadowing style
of storytelling. You do it once or twice, it is acceptable but here they have resorted to all the hammers in
their arsenal to drive home the point. CVs we get it that you are keen to separate the two.. we accept it is inevitable becos unless a conflict angle is formed, a love tale can't appeal to the audience at large but was there a need to do that to the exclusion of the normal flow of the tale...even if Nanu had not fed him the jalebi and told him that he is no longer important in his life...he wouldn't have ceased to be when he had a heart attack...Today's muted tones were a great style to experiment with when the narrative intended to show the juxtaposition of the merry times (farewell) and the sad times ( Nanu's fall) yet the effect wasn't achieved becos the audience has already an inkling of the happenings and so was very consumed by that thought since yesterday so the muted voices became voiceless in the most important part of the narrative. CVs buck up...go slow on the style and focus on the writing!!
Edited by sanfan - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: TereLiyeMINU

Agree dear.Thank god someone thought alike.The execution somewhat felt amiss.Like it didn't bring the helplessness..

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Actually, CV's have always shown the emotions subtle and nothing OTT, thus to show the extreme helplessness and to show the shock sink-in feeling, we need to watch today's part.
Coz today's would be as imp as bet-scene, confession scene.
I'm sure Randeep would do justice.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I agree there were quite a few editing flaws...the fact is that we all have started expecting a lot...they themselves have set a very high standard for theselves which probably now they are not able to maintain
But yes these spoilers and olv spoil the surprise quotient as we already knew what is coming up... so they should keep it to a minimum as far as possible😊

The editing flaws need to be taken care of definitely😳
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think im the only one who enjoyed the episode to T!!!
For me the muting n slow motion captured the essense of smoothly flowing the plot into tight narration without any melodrama...!Slow motion depicted the importance or emphasis of tat very particular moment that is going to be shortlived...it added to the visual aspect of the tragedy that is goin to stuck.in...Some minutes back they were happy n within few minutes the inevitable happened ...that was the SLOW MOTION criteria !!The crashing down of his both worlds...Nanu n NAINA.at the same time .collapsing infront of his eyes...!! same goes with the muting effect...!It was done for us to not to WATCH it but to FEEL the emotions ...Deepu cries so beautifully but thy did with a purpose of not showcasing his voice n neither his xpressions so vividly...THE EFFECT WAS 4 Us audience to sink in tat feeling of how his world has come crashing down along with NAINA on the othr hand calling him...We as audience had to absorb that emotion...tat sentiment !!!!..NO amount of shouting or crying would have uplifted the SENSE OF FEELING that they wanted to instill the impact in us...So thy did it subtlety with the right effect of showcasing how helpless Sameer was ...n their focus was on that !We as audience had to CONNECT N understand the turmoil n the STORM that has hit SAMEER!
Edited by mehraan - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Personally... the muted voices was a great narrative style for the two different scenes ( emotion wise) being played out because it juxtaposes well...To avoid flitting between two jarring emotions, this style is often resorted to...but its overall effect failed because of two things...the foreshadowing in the tale was done a tad too strongly ( as for the forum... we have been inundated with spoilers but even if we hadnt been, we would have known that something is going to happen) and the editing in the school sequence was very bad as also the camera angles guving us no proper feel of the moment.

I don't know how many of you watched EDKV but this muted voice was done beautifully when there is an accident and the hero takes the heroine to the hospital. Many had complaints then that the guy did not react as required but if one were to see the flow of the scene in its entirety... one can see the impact of the muted voice in the narrative and there too the editing for the accident was very poor.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: braveheartdoc

I agree there were quite a few editing flaws...the fact is that we all have started expecting a lot...they themselves have set a very high standard for theselves which probably now they are not able to maintain

But yes these spoilers and olv spoil the surprise quotient as we already knew what is coming up... so they should keep it to a minimum as far as possible😊

The editing flaws need to be taken care of definitely😳

There were quite a lot of editing flaws. The part where naina dresses up for the farewell she has already worn her jhumkas and chain. Then they again show her wearing it. How difficult is it for them to understand that there is a mistake there. or have they taken us for granted.
Sound ka toh kal ka problem nahi hai. kuch dinom se i am feeling ki at some instances sound has been thrown into the scene from somewhere else
Dont want to sound negative. But they continue to do this i dont know what will b the audience reaction.
Edited by mrinalinimenon - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Thanks to everyone who shared their responses! 😊

I just felt that I should elaborate on why I did not like the episode.

As for me, what appeals the most is a mix of realism and aesthetics. The screenplay and dialogues handle the reality part and aesthetics come from the overall execution, techniques, people/things present in the scene. Acting adds to both.

Slow motion and muting are like the go to techniques used by people. There's nothing wrong in using them, if the flow is not disrupted. The incorporation should be seamless.

Well it's not possible to expect the perfection of a movie in a daily soap. Hence it's easy to overlook some details, provided the overall feel is good. But that exactly was what was missing for me in the last episode- the feel! What I could feel throughout was a forced effort to cram too many things in a single episode.

The farewell set up as such was very messy. With just a few number of people in
a classroom and absence of many people who actually need to be there. Forget that. Let's attribute it to non availability/ limited access to artists/ resources. But with whatsoever set up they created, they really could have shown more without even making it looked forced. There was an insufficiency. It was a situation where many major characters looked like junior artists. Even Naina's restlessness looked so superficial.

As for Randeep's acting in the collapse scene, I don't even think there were enough shots that showcased his acting. It was mostly distant shots. No, things need not be OTT. But his expressions needed to be covered there. It did not come across as subtility, but underutilization to me.

Maybe we would get to see better of him in today's epi. His single shot in the precap conveyed the emotion. But at least I felt this sequence deserved continuity. It would have been a lot more neater if they had ended the episode with Nanu's first collapse, and had taken the time to establish the other scenes better. A screenplay at jet speed and camera at slow pace are what I witnessed.

It was clear that they are in a hurry to wind up things, for reasons only they know.

It's not that being too technical about it. I hardly write episodic reviews either. I overlook a lot of things too as I understand how a show works. But in certain episodes you can't help but expect the best.

Especially, if the things you now need to overlook are the things that actually attracted you to the show originally, you end up being disappointed! It's something that changes from person to person. Based on the kind of things one appreciates/ enjoys/ notices.

Like they say, to each, their own! I'm happy that the episode pleased some of you at least. 😊
Edited by cosmosandme - 7 years ago

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