Naina ,Sameer and Shadhi wala pyar ;-)

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I have been thinking why this emphasis on shadhi wala pyar. I guess todays scenes at the Toad rock clearly gives us an insight into it.

What is this shadhi wala pyar?? If you don't get married kya pyar sacha nahi hotha?? I know lot of people abroad, who are living in for years and they don't want to get married. So does that mean the love between such people are not pure?? Well , since this drama is set in 90s and in India , I guess the emphasis of shadhi wala pyar is all about one woman man / one man woman. Once you fall in love with someone , you cant accept anyone else in their place and that's the shadhi wala pyar.

Now that we have understood this I have a question to all ...Is Naina's love for Sameer like a Shadhi wala pyar?? Most of you will say yes...but I am going to say NOPE!! It isn't. Because , if it was then she would have given it back to those Bet wala boys. She might later question Sameer abt the bet ...then fight with him or be angry with him...but in front of the world she would have stood firm by him with not even an inch of doubt...

Shadhi wale pyar mein...the lady will tolerate her man's nonsense to large extant but she will never tolerate world talking nonsense about her man and her love life !!

If you see the scenes that came as FB for her , are scenes that she relates to the bet...but she is not remembering all that Sameer did for her genuinely. The way he protected her image in front of everyone itself is enough to prove that he is honest in his relationship with her. I am sure no man will do so much just to win a bet and that too when your future and image is at stake!!

Some might say, well when she asked him abt the bet he didn't justify ...he just walked away leaving her alone to face the turmoil that he has brewed...yup, absolutely rt !! no doubt about it...he could have told her rather than walking...but why did he walk away...??

Because MEN ARE FROM MARS AND WOMEN ARE FROM VENUS

Men when they are really upset , they pull themselves into a shell. They will brood till they get over it or they can find a solution for their problem. And during this stage they will prefer no interaction.
On the other hand women when they are upset , they like to talk to their friends/relatives abt it.. cry or fight with their spouse rofl...well there exceptions to every rule ...but majority behave in the same way.

Here Sameer is really upset because the bet was to uphold his mom's pride when Rakesh questioned him about his upbringing . He wanted to prove that his mom's upbringing is much better than Rakesh's but he didn't know his chase for his mothers affection was like the will o' the wisp...and that too at the cost of harming Naina who loves him unconditionally.

And their private moment was invaded by the cruel world , both were shocked. Sameer silence again helped Naina's image. Now the bad person is Sameer not Naina. Else Naina's confession would be given a morally wrong image by those boys.

Whatever said and done ...one thing is for sure...if they patch up and marry...then I feel off the two Sameer will be stronger in character than Naina. All the while I had thought the other way around .
Today his entire world shattered in front of him...there were no pieces left for him to pick and join...even then when she approached him, he stood up right looking ahead. He shared his sadness with her her...but he never collapsed. She couldn't see him in tears . Seeing him this way broke her down more than him...she keeps her hand on his back and leans on to his back...for his support ...for his warmth...there by trying to calm herself and him...beautifully acted by Ashi and Randeep.
So where does this leave the story...I think on the way to Shadhi wala pyar!!



PS : Now we need to wait for Sameer's confession ...eagerly waiting for him to say "I LOVE YOU NAINA !!
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TereLiyeMINU thumbnail
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Posted: 7 years ago
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A novel perception Ashu Di 👏 Loved the analysis and points you have picked up in support of your argument. 😃 Yeah I agree with you.This 'shadi wala pyar' is too early for teenagers who are still coming to terms in balancing life,family,emotions,ego,conscious mind,self conscious state and pumping hormones.A difficult phase of life where impulsiveness rules the stage.Sameer at first and even Naina to some extent.She is bit too impulsive in building her own assumptions.'Maine sab sun liya','Main jaanti hoon' ...Arey! Let the boy clear his mind first..He never once mentioned 'pyaar' it was always 'dost' for him.She never doubted his intentions,never questioned him ...Well both are at fault,there is no denying.But I think a little pause,break from dream world and a bit recapitulation of why Sameer was suddenly interested in making friendship with her though being humiliated only for her would have saved from such a devastating heart-quake. Well whatever has happened it was meant to be that ugly.Ugly things have ugliest endings. Now there would be a fresh start and can't wait to see how love in purest form would mould them,their maturity and their understanding. 😳
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Posted: 7 years ago
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You are right. It is not yet shaadi wala pyar for Naina. She is only 16. She has dreamt of shaadi wala pyar watching BW movies. It is a learning phase for both Sameer and Naina. The assumption that the one whom you love, have to end up in a marriage is not always right. Obviously Naina is unknown to all this. Don't blame her though. Her age, background and upbringing is all that. All that he did genuinely did for has to be brought in front of her - maybe by Munna, Pandit, Swati.

The trust that has to come in a relationship when the outside world attacks has to come with time, maturity and experience. They will learn and this is what will make their love stronger. 😳


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Once again awesome post.👏

Even I was thinking...keya yeh shaadiwala payar hai? Shaadiwala payar hota to Tayeejee+Taujee is also shadiwala payar.😆 She says no as long as he says no...if he says yes, she says yes too. Chacha+Chachi or Pujadi+Jiju also shadiwala payar. Tum Chandni ho and main Rishi Kapoor.😳 Even Bishaka and Villain papa os also shadiwala payar...who cares about what right or wrong, hum tum ek baas...bhaar mein jaye dunya🤢. But Naina and Sameer's love is not Shaadiwala love. Shadiwala love is a concept which was common at that time in almost all girls like Swati. Adha fantasy and adha khatarnak. Best for Munna and Swati kind of immature children who has no troubles in life like Naina and Sameer. Saina is like dostiwala love, Soul mate wala love which stays forever. Naina lied for him, cried in his sorrows and tried to fill up the emptiness in him...and he promised to himself he will not let her cry, he will not wear her love( sweater) as long as he doesn't confess. Now in this love shaadi ho yah na ho...who cares. It is love, truest feeling of true love. When for one's pain other cries and tries to save the other. Truly I'm impressed by watching such a beautiful episode. 👏

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Wow Ashu what an analysis 👏 👏 👏
Yes I absolutely agree about the "is it shaadi wala pyaar?" question... they are way over infatuation stage...definitely in love...but need to build trust and support between each other...this will be their main focus in the next few weeks...to learn to trust each other and become a support system of each other and become each others strength...

Today was wake up call for both of them...both of them equally shattered...one will not trust the love easily and the other will have to work towards that trust...for one the broken love would eat them...for the other the guilt would...

Havent watched the episode yet...but going by the LU, the posts and the caps...I loved today's episode...


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Posted: 7 years ago
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I absolutely agree about it not being shaadi Walsh pyar. I think they both have a long way to go to be realistically in love. Naina was infactuated by Sameer and it grew further into a special feeling where she believed he feels equally for her. She is a sweet person by nature and believes in giving the fullest to every relationship in her life. That's why even after being so honest she could never disclose about her brother being the one who stole the question papers. Naina and Sameer are now at a stage where they have got to know about each other's personalities... it was a start of a special friendship but love and especially how Naina perceived as shaadi Wala is a long road ahead for both.
Nice to see your post here... you rocked with your posts in krpk forum! Always a pleasure to read your post.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Definately not shaadi wala pyar...Still a long way to go n that comes with maturity ,xperience n yup time too...!Both r in love but doesnt understand what are the complexities besides being in love...U know the whole package...😆 Cnt blame them cos tts so natural n realistic ...Once ur in love especially at this very tender age ...its all about the rosy n the good feeling...the attention,the time n the moments ...Other takes precedence!!.itts only when ur hit with real issues...everything breaks loose...n u come back to the basics on what actually went on missing or needs to work upon...U know the lessons we learn in life n that we wont repeat or commit again...This is exactly where Samaina is at stage...they have to learn n build that trust n understanding on each other...!Pyar to karliya par issey nibhana hai...For Naina this stands true as the guy took slaps for her , bought upon his image n also expulsion...She needs to see HIM THROUGH HER HEART...where she went exactly lacking on this n clouded again by judgements without letting him speak...Sam if had earlier confessed trusting her that she would hear him out ,then these issues wouldnot had happened...Love is built on trust n any relationship without it cant survive or withstand the trials in life!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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The story is set in the 90. Hence it will be difficult for anyone who was not a teen during those years to understand what shadi wala pyar meant for a 16 year old in 1990. A 16 year old today might not think in terms of shadi wala pyar at all.. But in those days, shadi wala pyar was a concept or an idea we teens had based on movies . To some extent oh bai is right. Films did influence us a lot back then. Since we did not or were not allowed to mingle freely with boys back then, we let our imagination do the work. Did Naina really understand what is shadi wala pyar? No. But then for her, concept of shadi and pyar are based on movies she watches. has she been exposed to the real world? No. IN those days, there was no internet. No social media. All we could chat was with our friends...and since many of us were forbidden to do lot of stuff, we had to imagine them all. This is exactly what Naina and Swati 's shadi wa la pyar is at the moment.
But this heartbreak is acutally good in many ways. We should look upon our mistakes as learning experinces. Naina now will understand that there is difference between movies, romance and real life. She loved Sameer whole heartedly. If you have observed, she brings up movies and movies scenes several times to compare herself to Sameer and what she watched in movies. Now she recived a jolt and she will come out with a better understanding of her shadi wala pyar. People often mistake shadi for only love...ask any married couple and they will tell you...in marriage, trust and compromise come before love. Without trust, love alone cannot be recipe for successful marriage. Sameer has broken Naina's trust. Yes today Sameer did cry. But it was not for Naina related pain. It was the pain of feeling abanded by his mom. He has felt that pain for many years now. But Naina today felt betrayed by her first love...it will be very hard for her to trust any guy in future...as for Sameer, it remains to be seen if he feels only guilt or pain too on the break up...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think "shaadi wala pyaar" context here was just to check how serious Sameer is with Naina. All this starts when Sameer is casually telling his friends about an ex-girlfriend in Nainital and how easily he forgot about her. So the emphasis was to check if Sameer genuinely cares for her or is it just a timepass fling for him. BTW: I loved the lines- Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus- I so agree to your analysis. Come to think about it, that's what men do. Shut themselves off completely until their head is in the right place. And women want immediate confrontation 😆
But just one point, Naina did seek clarification from Sameer instead of believing the bet guys- that was very mature of her I felt- and even when Sameer shouted at her and said that he wants nothing to do with her, she sensed his helplessness, instead of taking him at face value.
Edited by Samaina_1990 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Nicely analysed the shaadi wala pyaar by you👏
She is also experiencing this for the first time and she believesthat this is going to be the first and last for her...ending up with shaadi😛
What she failed to understand was the practicalities and the realities of life...which are far from fantasies...but she believed all her fantasies to be true and that where she went wrong... usne pyar to kiya but uspe poora trust nahi kiya...earlier she could feel helplessness in his voice when she believed he loved her...but once a fact of this bet is revealed... her gut feelings all vanished... she was occupied with the doubts so much that she forgot all her feeings for him and what all he did for her

The realisation of true meaning of love would make her understand him better😊

Sameer i think... he is just too much engrossed in his stress and he needs to sort out everything... along with his upcoming stress from his parents, Rakesh...everyone

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