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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: eclipse123

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Ishita as mother did wrong but in every sense it was with her own blood only.Not with adi/ruhi.She did wrong leaving pihu.And cvs did destroyed ishita & ramans character for a leap and for giving someone special place.I agree with that.

Whatever adi/ruhi/pihu is because of ishita only.Yes shagun did take care of pihu as a good mother but she did keep her away from her own mother which ishita didnt done with her.And shagun did try to manipulate pihu for her benefit.Ya i know u are not comparing shagun with ishita but wanted to point out because u wanted to know what ishita did for pihu.Ishita did give pihu to shagun because she wanted her daughters happiness and she did know she did wrong with pihu as a mother.Ishita did tried to take pihu away from shagun only when ishita came to know about pihu being manipulated by shagun.Even after pihu accept ishita as mother ishita told her daughter to respect shagun first as mother & she did said good things only about shagun to her 3 children.This is called values which a mother or a good human can give.For giving these values she doesn't needed to be with them for life long or for years but want some minutes.


I would only like to elaborate on this point as I have a different take to it.

SHAGUN did not manipulate Pihu, she started manipulating her only when Bhallas including Iyers openly started defying her presence as anybody after giving her hopes of getting rights. Shagun hadn't dreamt of marrying Raman but this thought was first put in her mind by Madhavi and then by Mrs. Bhalla and later on by Raman and Vandita. But then these very people started encouraging Ishita which helped Ishita in trying to get an upper hold on Pihu. In fact Ruhi brainwashed Ishita and asked her to not allow Shagun near Pihu and take complete control as a mother.


This was the place when Shagun turned and started manipulating Pihu as she could see her fondness towards Ishita and others encouraging her to spend time with her. IshRa never allowed Shagun to meet Pihu even when she was unaware about her manipulations as Pihu needed to come near to Ishita whereas when Shagun got the custody they manipulated and were meeting Pihu time and again.


In fact CV's did realize that they Have turned Shagun into a good mother as she was taking care of Pihu , thats why they had to suddenly change Shagun'' Character once again and make her resort to her old negligent ways so that they can show her into bad light And justify Raman and Ishita's such a big game plan of snatching Pihu from Shagun.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I have recently discovered this show, I mean I did knew it when it started and found it interesting also but never followed it fearing the fact that it's EK show, it's bound to ruin the story after a certain point, ...now thanks to hotstar I watched all the earlier episodes...and when I see what they are show currently is so saddening, like all those fights for Ruhi and her upbringing and aadi and his upbringing were just drama, can't just relate to these characters and the initial ones, they only have same name


Old YHM was different, it used to be one of the best. What they are showing currently is a disgrace to the earlier YHM.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhilasha_dream


I would only like to elaborate on this point as I have a different take to it.

SHAGUN did not manipulate Pihu, she started manipulating her only when Bhallas including Iyers openly started defying her presence as anybody after giving her hopes of getting rights. Shagun hadn't dreamt of marrying Raman but this thought was first put in her mind by Madhavi and then by Mrs. Bhalla and later on by Raman and Vandita. But then these very people started encouraging Ishita which helped Ishita in trying to get an upper hold on Pihu. In fact Ruhi brainwashed Ishita and asked her to not allow Shagun near Pihu and take complete control as a mother.


This was the place when Shagun turned and started manipulating Pihu as she could see her fondness towards Ishita and others encouraging her to spend time with her. IshRa never allowed Shagun to meet Pihu even when she was unaware about her manipulations as Pihu needed to come near to Ishita whereas when Shagun got the custody they manipulated and were meeting Pihu time and again.


In fact CV's did realize that they Have turned Shagun into a good mother as she was taking care of Pihu , thats why they had to suddenly change Shagun'' Character once again and make her resort to her old negligent ways so that they can show her into bad light And justify Raman and Ishita's such a big game plan of snatching Pihu from Shagun.


They did tried to make shagun as ishita but audience didn't accept.And ishita was giving her right as a mother when she first came to the picture.And she did accept she was wrong leaving pihu,And ishita was not the one who put marrying raman in shagun's mind but madhavi. Her own son adi was question shagun when she said yes to marriage.And shagun was not innocent child who will say yes to marry raman or blush when someone tell her suddenly to marry him.If she said yes then it means she have that thought in her mind from long.She didn't though about marriage earlier because for her ishita was not in the picture & her place was safe.For world and pihu she was raman's wife & she dodn't wanted to possess raman because she din't loved him.She wanted to become ishita and she was almost there too.But then the real enemy came ishita.And when she doubt ishita is alive she did went to check ishita to Australia. She wa trying to hit raman from long that scene was the first one after leap where she was trying to impress him in award function.If shagun fear her place in pihu's life then can it be said she did right by manipulating pihu towards her own mother staing she is home barker.Yes ishita did wrong by leaving pihu & shagun had a place in pihus life more than ishita.But everything goes in drain when she showed her real face when ishita came into picture.we can't say they made shagun negative for ishita.But i will say the only character relatable after leap was shagun. Because from start shagun was a gray character she was not a mahaan like ishita.She was ok till ishita was not in picture but when ishita came into picture she did show her real face."Once raman told to mihir {'till shagun is happy she will leave others to be happy but if she is not happy then she will destroy everything}.

Yes i agree what bhallas/iyers did to shagun was very much wrong but it doesnt mean what she did was right.The thing is she did show her real face when time came.If she was a pure heart then she neither left manoj or she did keep ishitas truth form pihu nor she did manipulated a small child with venom against her own mother.Ishita did deserve pihus hatred/love but only after pihu knowing the real truth not by manipulation but it doesn't give the right to shagun nor raman to write shaguns name in birth certificate nor flaunt herself as his wife in front of world nor pihu.If ishita had truly died then what had happened that child wouldn't have known her real identity nor her real mother.But then ishita did tried to give shagun her place in pihus life .Its natural if ishita did tried to take control sometime because at least then we can know she is a human not a mahaan. At least for keeping pihu away from shagun ishita didn't install wrong impression about shagun into pihus mind.
Edited by eclipse123 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yup i agree with some of your points but not fully.Yes ishita did wrong by leaving adi-pihu by hearing raman words that she is a bad omen to her children.She did wrong by not telling raman about annanyas death.She did wrong by standing with ruhi when she wanted to be mitramaa.But u know one thing,i will say she did wrong by leaving her children and not telling raman the truth etc.But it doesn't mean every mother in the world took only right decision for their children and if they did take some wrong decision with a good aim but become bad then anyone can point finger at their motherhood.Yes ishita did take bad decisions but it doesn't mean she is a -------word u used.

Now i think if u are a on & off viewer then u should first want to know whole story before pointing finger at ishita's motherhood and calling her -----.First ishita didn't trade her children and she don't know, that to differentiate her children.She was opposing raman when he said the plan to fool nidhi too.Both parent's ishita & raman wanted their both children safety only but faith/nidhi had some other plan.And ishita didn't give ruhi to nidhi even after she was keeping pihu but when she saw nidhi was going to push the small baby from a height she did run to catch the baby from falling at that time nidhi came & took ruhi and then too ishita ran towrtds ruhi to save her.

And next u said it would have been good if ishita didnt marry raman then ruhi can live happily.U want to know first what was ruhis condition before ishita entered ruhis life. Ruhi was in a stage of depression she was lonely after being with her father and his family too.After ishita enter into her life only she become a happy child.And about nidhi kidnapping her nidhi was not the enemy of ishita but bhallas.Ishita is the one who lost everything not otherwise.And ishita is there in ruhis life or not a kidnap or death can happen anyway.And ishita didn't came to ruhis life when she was 10 but when she was 6/7.And she was with her for whole 3/4 years.

Next adi,u want to know adi was a spoil brat from childhood because he was with shagun guidance till he was 14.And yes he was with ishita only for 1 year.But u know within that one year ishita made that boy from a spoil brat to a good human.And he was in that path(good) after that only.And if ishita was not in his life then he wouldn't have got his father or family back.

And u are asking what ishita did for the childen if ishita was not there then this adi & ruhi was not in this world.And ishita did gove her unborn childs life to save this children.And ishita did save this children from death two times.And both the timevit was becuse of shaguns enemy not ishitas nor it was anything related to ishita.And these two children got any good value or they live atleast a single day happily then it was because of ishita only.

And not only the children life but both ishras life was also tragedy that too because of these children & family mainly.If our mother demise and she was with us for only some years then too the values she gave us will not fade the same goes with the mother ishita.Yes if their(ishra)life was not a roler coaster and ishra had a peaceful life then surely ishita could spent her full time in upbringing of her children but it was not the case.

Ishita as mother did wrong but in every sense it was with her own blood only.Not with adi/ruhi.She did wrong leaving pihu.And cvs did destroyed ishita & ramans character for a leap and for giving someone special place.I agree with that.

Whatever adi/ruhi/pihu is because of ishita only.Yes shagun did take care of pihu as a good mother but she did keep her away from her own mother which ishita didnt done with her.And shagun did try to manipulate pihu for her benefit.Ya i know u are not comparing shagun with ishita but wanted to point out because u wanted to know what ishita did for pihu.Ishita did give pihu to shagun because she wanted her daughters happiness and she did know she did wrong with pihu as a mother.Ishita did tried to take pihu away from shagun only when ishita came to know about pihu being manipulated by shagun.Even after pihu accept ishita as mother ishita told her daughter to respect shagun first as mother & she did said good things only about shagun to her 3 children.This is called values which a mother or a good human can give.For giving these values she doesn't needed to be with them for life long or for years but want some minutes.

Yes ishita did many wrong as a mother.But she can never be called as a ----- nor we can question her motherhood.The only mother who stand with her children in yhm is ishita.She didnt left her children ever(when she was present there).Ishra are the only patent who sacrificed there life for the children.


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What is this muted word that you say I have used for Ishita? I don't think I have used any wrong or demeaning words... I am sorry but you have taken my post in an entirety different context, I am very analytical by nature, I study the substrate an the products to know about the change... Let's keep things in perspective -

Ruhi was lonely child, agreed, Ishita's entry in her life was a blessing but ultimately Ruhi suffered at the hands of Nidhi, didn't she? Ruhi never got to spend the time with a nurturing mother that Ishita is supposed to be, when tested Ruhi insulted her father to no end, she was mad at her father and was trying to destroy him when he was ill because he did not let Ruhi marry a guy who tried to molest her... That's the final product.. I don't see a good one

Adi was money minded when he was young, Adi has killed people for money now, running an illegal business under Raman's name, hitting his wife and Ishita thinks a mere apology is good enough for a death and domestic violence...

Pihu is a frightened child, who has lived without her mother first for 7 years being manipulated by Shagun then being tormented by Simmi...

Alia is also her child, I thought after living with a liberal mom she would realize that you should not tolerate abuses of any kind but here Ishita is asking her to forgive Adi if he says sorry, why should alia stay with a man like Adi, who is obviously responsible for death of many people, he is a criminal running illegal business.



I am not saying Ishita is a bad mother, she maybe the best mother in the world but honestly, not a single child of her represents the Parvarish she spoke of..as you said "Whatever Adi, Ruhi, Pihu are, is because of Ishita" and Adi is involved in a death, he is a fraud, he is a cheater, Ruhi is a brat and Pihu will be declared a murderer..and I did not say "It would have been better for Ruhi, if Raman hadn't married Ishita", I compared two scenarios of Ruhi's life and said that I would prefer a stable childhood than what Ruhi went through when she was with Nidhi.. Please read carefully
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: eclipse123

Yup i agree with some of your points but not fully.Yes ishita did wrong by leaving adi-pihu by hearing raman words that she is a bad omen to her children.She did wrong by not telling raman about annanyas death.She did wrong by standing with ruhi when she wanted to be mitramaa.But u know one thing,i will say she did wrong by leaving her children and not telling raman the truth etc.But it doesn't mean every mother in the world took only right decision for their children and if they did take some wrong decision with a good aim but become bad then anyone can point finger at their motherhood.Yes ishita did take bad decisions but it doesn't mean she is a -------word u used.


Now i think if u are a on & off viewer then u should first want to know whole story before pointing finger at ishita's motherhood and calling her -----.First ishita didn't trade her children and she don't know, that to differentiate her children.She was opposing raman when he said the plan to fool nidhi too.Both parent's ishita & raman wanted their both children safety only but faith/nidhi had some other plan.And ishita didn't give ruhi to nidhi even after she was keeping pihu but when she saw nidhi was going to push the small baby from a height she did run to catch the baby from falling at that time nidhi came & took ruhi and then too ishita ran towrtds ruhi to save her.

And next u said it would have been good if ishita didnt marry raman then ruhi can live happily.U want to know first what was ruhis condition before ishita entered ruhis life. Ruhi was in a stage of depression she was lonely after being with her father and his family too.After ishita enter into her life only she become a happy child.And about nidhi kidnapping her nidhi was not the enemy of ishita but bhallas.Ishita is the one who lost everything not otherwise.And ishita is there in ruhis life or not a kidnap or death can happen anyway.And ishita didn't came to ruhis life when she was 10 but when she was 6/7.And she was with her for whole 3/4 years.

Next adi,u want to know adi was a spoil brat from childhood because he was with shagun guidance till he was 14.And yes he was with ishita only for 1 year.But u know within that one year ishita made that boy from a spoil brat to a good human.And he was in that path(good) after that only.And if ishita was not in his life then he wouldn't have got his father or family back.

And u are asking what ishita did for the childen if ishita was not there then this adi & ruhi was not in this world.And ishita did gove her unborn childs life to save this children.And ishita did save this children from death two times.And both the timevit was becuse of shaguns enemy not ishitas nor it was anything related to ishita.And these two children got any good value or they live atleast a single day happily then it was because of ishita only.

And not only the children life but both ishras life was also tragedy that too because of these children & family mainly.If our mother demise and she was with us for only some years then too the values she gave us will not fade the same goes with the mother ishita.Yes if their(ishra)life was not a roler coaster and ishra had a peaceful life then surely ishita could spent her full time in upbringing of her children but it was not the case.

Ishita as mother did wrong but in every sense it was with her own blood only.Not with adi/ruhi.She did wrong leaving pihu.And cvs did destroyed ishita & ramans character for a leap and for giving someone special place.I agree with that.

Whatever adi/ruhi/pihu is because of ishita only.Yes shagun did take care of pihu as a good mother but she did keep her away from her own mother which ishita didnt done with her.And shagun did try to manipulate pihu for her benefit.Ya i know u are not comparing shagun with ishita but wanted to point out because u wanted to know what ishita did for pihu.Ishita did give pihu to shagun because she wanted her daughters happiness and she did know she did wrong with pihu as a mother.Ishita did tried to take pihu away from shagun only when ishita came to know about pihu being manipulated by shagun.Even after pihu accept ishita as mother ishita told her daughter to respect shagun first as mother & she did said good things only about shagun to her 3 children.This is called values which a mother or a good human can give.For giving these values she doesn't needed to be with them for life long or for years but want some minutes.

Yes ishita did many wrong as a mother.But she can never be called as a ----- nor we can question her motherhood.The only mother who stand with her children in yhm is ishita.She didnt left her children ever(when she was present there).Ishra are the only patent who sacrificed there life for the children.



such a beautiful write up pooja and so apt
my friend told me about ur write up and I came to this thread just to read it 😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: eclipse123

Yup i agree with some of your points but not fully.Yes ishita did wrong by leaving adi-pihu by hearing raman words that she is a bad omen to her children.She did wrong by not telling raman about annanyas death.She did wrong by standing with ruhi when she wanted to be mitramaa.But u know one thing,i will say she did wrong by leaving her children and not telling raman the truth etc.But it doesn't mean every mother in the world took only right decision for their children and if they did take some wrong decision with a good aim but become bad then anyone can point finger at their motherhood.Yes ishita did take bad decisions but it doesn't mean she is a -------word u used.


Now i think if u are a on & off viewer then u should first want to know whole story before pointing finger at ishita's motherhood and calling her -----.First ishita didn't trade her children and she don't know, that to differentiate her children.She was opposing raman when he said the plan to fool nidhi too.Both parent's ishita & raman wanted their both children safety only but faith/nidhi had some other plan.And ishita didn't give ruhi to nidhi even after she was keeping pihu but when she saw nidhi was going to push the small baby from a height she did run to catch the baby from falling at that time nidhi came & took ruhi and then too ishita ran towrtds ruhi to save her.

And next u said it would have been good if ishita didnt marry raman then ruhi can live happily.U want to know first what was ruhis condition before ishita entered ruhis life. Ruhi was in a stage of depression she was lonely after being with her father and his family too.After ishita enter into her life only she become a happy child.And about nidhi kidnapping her nidhi was not the enemy of ishita but bhallas.Ishita is the one who lost everything not otherwise.And ishita is there in ruhis life or not a kidnap or death can happen anyway.And ishita didn't came to ruhis life when she was 10 but when she was 6/7.And she was with her for whole 3/4 years.

Next adi,u want to know adi was a spoil brat from childhood because he was with shagun guidance till he was 14.And yes he was with ishita only for 1 year.But u know within that one year ishita made that boy from a spoil brat to a good human.And he was in that path(good) after that only.And if ishita was not in his life then he wouldn't have got his father or family back.

And u are asking what ishita did for the childen if ishita was not there then this adi & ruhi was not in this world.And ishita did gove her unborn childs life to save this children.And ishita did save this children from death two times.And both the timevit was becuse of shaguns enemy not ishitas nor it was anything related to ishita.And these two children got any good value or they live atleast a single day happily then it was because of ishita only.

And not only the children life but both ishras life was also tragedy that too because of these children & family mainly.If our mother demise and she was with us for only some years then too the values she gave us will not fade the same goes with the mother ishita.Yes if their(ishra)life was not a roler coaster and ishra had a peaceful life then surely ishita could spent her full time in upbringing of her children but it was not the case.

Ishita as mother did wrong but in every sense it was with her own blood only.Not with adi/ruhi.She did wrong leaving pihu.And cvs did destroyed ishita & ramans character for a leap and for giving someone special place.I agree with that.

Whatever adi/ruhi/pihu is because of ishita only.Yes shagun did take care of pihu as a good mother but she did keep her away from her own mother which ishita didnt done with her.And shagun did try to manipulate pihu for her benefit.Ya i know u are not comparing shagun with ishita but wanted to point out because u wanted to know what ishita did for pihu.Ishita did give pihu to shagun because she wanted her daughters happiness and she did know she did wrong with pihu as a mother.Ishita did tried to take pihu away from shagun only when ishita came to know about pihu being manipulated by shagun.Even after pihu accept ishita as mother ishita told her daughter to respect shagun first as mother & she did said good things only about shagun to her 3 children.This is called values which a mother or a good human can give.For giving these values she doesn't needed to be with them for life long or for years but want some minutes.

Yes ishita did many wrong as a mother.But she can never be called as a ----- nor we can question her motherhood.The only mother who stand with her children in yhm is ishita.She didnt left her children ever(when she was present there).Ishra are the only patent who sacrificed there life for the children.


Beautifully written & completely agree. Ishita may not be all around mom but she's been caring & loving mom always.
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What is this muted word that you say I have used for Ishita? I don't think I have used any wrong or demeaning words... I am sorry but you have taken my post in an entirety different context, I am very analytical by nature, I study the substrate an the products to know about the change... Let's keep things in perspective -

Ruhi was lonely child, agreed, Ishita's entry in her life was a blessing but ultimately Ruhi suffered at the hands of Nidhi, didn't she? Ruhi never got to spend the time with a nurturing mother that Ishita is supposed to be, when tested Ruhi insulted her father to no end, she was mad at her father and was trying to destroy him when he was ill because he did not let Ruhi marry a guy who tried to molest her... That's the final product.. I don't see a good one

Adi was money minded when he was young, Adi has killed people for money now, running an illegal business under Raman's name, hitting his wife and Ishita thinks a mere apology is good enough for a death and domestic violence...

Pihu is a frightened child, who has lived without her mother first for 7 years being manipulated by Shagun then being tormented by Simmi...

Alia is also her child, I thought after living with a liberal mom she would realize that you should not tolerate abuses of any kind but here Ishita is asking her to forgive Adi if he says sorry, why should alia stay with a man like Adi, who is obviously responsible for death of many people, he is a criminal running illegal business.



I am not saying Ishita is a bad mother, she maybe the best mother in the world but honestly, not a single child of her represents the Parvarish she spoke of..as you said "Whatever Adi, Ruhi, Pihu are, is because of Ishita" and Adi is involved in a death, he is a fraud, he is a cheater, Ruhi is a brat and Pihu will be declared a murderer..and I did not say "It would have been better for Ruhi, if Raman hadn't married Ishita", I compared two scenarios of Ruhi's life and said that I would prefer a stable childhood than what Ruhi went through when she was with Nidhi.. Please read carefully


I don't wanted to take the muted word to neither ishita nor any women.Because no women deserve that word.Second many parents gave there child good value but it doesn't mean they want to follow in the same path.And if they didn't go through the right path it doesn't mean their parents doesn't give them good values.

I think the answer to why adi become like that suddenly have given by raman in last episode.That manc childhood was installed by these type of negative thoughts and it was suppressed by ishita in that one year and he had started to see a new world.Then even after ishita went he was safe with his father and his family & by Gods grace he had no shagun(old) nor ashok like person in his life for years.So his negativity was suppressed and his mind was fully covered with respect and love towards ishita.Then the negativity and the though family have no value ,money is everything which was installed by people surrounded him in childhood came into picture when the real downfall happened when he lost his both parents raman & ishita.He was ok till either of his parent was with him when he lost both of them & when he was surrounded by only negative people then old suppressed adi came into picture.Yes ishita was not there from earlier and like raman said when ishita came into picture it was late then too she tried to suppress his negativity & tried to show him right path which was the result we show after first leap who has ishitas quality.And that was why ishita said she will make him the old adi because she thinks him as her child who she got many years ago whom was in a path of wrong and she did take back him by holding his hand to right path. Because somewhere she trust her children have a good heart somewhere but they are easy to be manipulated because of their life.

And about ruhi yes she was ready to destroy her father.Because she was manipulated by simmi telling her father don't care about her and she did tried to destroy him in right path(in business)not like adi who did destroyed raman in true sense.If nidhi kidnapped ruhi then what was ishita fault.And ruhi did have a good heart and me as a yhm viewer had seen how ishita was giving good values to ruhi from the starting of yhm till the first leap happened.So,yes she had ishitas value not bhallas nor her biological mother.Yes ruhi did many wrongs but like u said she had been manipulated and was abused by nidhi but it didn't destroyed ruhi as a human fully that was why she wanted to be mitra maa because she wanted to walk in ishitas shadow.She wanted to be someone like ishita.

And shagun didn't manipulated pihu for years.I will say shagun did loved pihu like her own child and pihu got a motherly love from shagun for 7 years for sure & she got a happy childhood than adi-ruhi for also.Shagun did only manipulate pihu after ishita came into picture.

And i din't said ishita is a great mother and i will say there is no mother who is prefect in the world. And we know ishita is a mahaan that's why some thinks she want to stand with right and want to leave adi.But if she was a normal mother then ishita would act only selfish even after knowing her children being criminal because she is a mother and for every mother her child come first not others or whats right.And ishita had said to aliyas face once for her after adi-ruhi-pihu only she or anyone comes.And i'm not telling she want to save adi or she was right in saying aliya to forgive him.I think we were not discussing about on-going story or new adi anything thats why id din't pointed.And yes she was saving her son like a normal mother will do it shows what adi is to her but then she didn't keep mute she did tried to install adi what is right and wrong.And she did said only one thing she will try to get back her old adi with love or beating.And she was ok with raman pushing adi outside his house. I think aliya also want adi isn't.Ishita is only trying to understand what is happening around her.We are seeing what adi is doing but ishita is only seeing the scenes happening in front of her and she will take to time to digest a person like adi become like this her son become a real evil who have no redemption.She was a mother to adi-aliya.She will be in fix.Its not easy to stand in her shoes.And u want to wait for final decision by ishita.

I'm also not telling she is a mother india but surely she is a good mother & she had given whatever values she can given to them in short period of time.And after that if her children had went through wrong path because of the manipulation of people around them and some of the quality they have from childhood(before she enters their life)then it not her fault.And for me she is a good mother that any child can get & but she was not there from starting of these children life that's why their is no stability in children's life.And yes i had read carefully and i understood what u wrote...this is what u wrote [ Ishita not marrying Raman and Ruhi living with Raman, would have been a stable childhood, I would totally go for that than suffer at the hands of someone like Nidhi.] U were telling two scenarios.But u want to know one thing its not because of ishita nidhi become enemy of raman or his family.So if ruhi is with raman or with both ishita & raman it doesnt matter because nidhi can come in ruhis life and kidnapp her anyways,it have nothing to do with ishita or her entry into ruhis/ramans life.Because nidhi was ramans enemy.So what is there to compare the above two scenario in first place😕.yhm is not only about ruhi-ishita but it is about 3 broken souls raman-ishita-ruhi.So just because ruhi got kidnapped and she lost her childhood it doesnt mean ishras marriage was not needed/ishitas entry into rumans life nor it is because of ishra marriage ruhis life spoiled.Like ishimaa-ruhi ishra too plays a major role in yhm.The story and their marriage is also for ishra as a couple not only for ruhi-ishimaa...thats why they showed the strength of ishras love each time.And yhm is not about ishimaa(she may have become ishimaa to many people now)but the intial story of yhm was just about 3 broken souls who become others strength and how they starts to live their life for each other forgetting their bitter past.And their was a child ,a man and a women who was broken beyond repair and these three become each others life this was the real yhm story.Not only about ishimaa(that ishimaa was also just for ruhi at the starting).

And i was saying if ishita was there in ruhis life or not... that kidnap would had happened if it wanted to happened that's why i said nidhi was not ishita's enemy but raman's/bhallas.If ishita marry raman to give that child mothers love it doesnt mean with that marriage she certifies ruhis whole life safety...parents can only try their level best to protect their children but cant guarantee everything.Ishita is a mother not an employee that if something goes wrong we will question her motherhood and her reason of marriage(in past ...after their marriage it changed from ruhi kaliya to un kaliya only)etc.Then we can say if raman had married nidhi instead of shagun then ruhi itself will not be in the world then problem solved.If because of our loved ones we had went through some problem then it doesn't mean we want to left our loved ones their own/think if they were not related to us then we wouldnt need to go through all this.Just like that i can't think ishita/raman caused problem to each others life so they shouldn't have been with each other(it was just for eg)people will fight for each other in every thick & thin its called love.Even after we tried to keep us and our loved one safe if something bad happened it means it was not in our hand and it was something that would have happened anyway.

Anyway we two have different thought's and i respect your thought's.Thnku.




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Thnku so much for the sweet words Diskha. It's so sweet of u that u came to read my post.🤗

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Sorry dear don't know your name.Thanku so much dear for your kind words.Yes Ishita is not a
all rounder but of course she is a good mother that any child can get.No second thoughts😊.
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I don't wanted to take the muted word to neither ishita nor any women.Because no women deserve that word.Second many parents gave there child good value but it doesn't mean they want to follow in the same path.And if they didn't go through the right path it doesn't mean their parents doesn't give them good values.

I think the answer to why adi become like that suddenly have given by raman in last episode.That manc childhood was installed by these type of negative thoughts and it was suppressed by ishita in that one year and he had started to see a new world.Then even after ishita went he was safe with his father and his family & by Gods grace he had no shagun(old) nor ashok like person in his life for years.So his negativity was suppressed and his mind was fully covered with respect and love towards ishita.Then the negativity and the though family have no value ,money is everything which was installed by people surrounded him in childhood came into picture when the real downfall happened when he lost his both parents raman & ishita.He was ok till either of his parent was with him when he lost both of them & when he was surrounded by only negative people then old suppressed adi came into picture.Yes ishita was not there from earlier and like raman said when ishita came into picture it was late then too she tried to suppress his negativity & tried to show him right path which was the result we show after first leap who has ishitas quality.And that was why ishita said she will make him the old adi because she thinks him as her child who she got many years ago whom was in a path of wrong and she did take back him by holding his hand to right path. Because somewhere she trust her children have a good heart somewhere but they are easy to be manipulated because of their life.

And about ruhi yes she was ready to destroy her father.Because she was manipulated by simmi telling her father don't care about her and she did tried to destroy him in right path(in business)not like adi who did destroyed raman in true sense.If nidhi kidnapped ruhi then what was ishita fault.And ruhi did have a good heart and me as a yhm viewer had seen how ishita was giving good values to ruhi from the starting of yhm till the first leap happened.So,yes she had ishitas value not bhallas nor her biological mother.Yes ruhi did many wrongs but like u said she had been manipulated and was abused by nidhi but it didn't destroyed ruhi as a human fully that was why she wanted to be mitra maa because she wanted to walk in ishitas shadow.She wanted to be someone like ishita.

And shagun didn't manipulated pihu for years.I will say shagun did loved pihu like her own child and pihu got a motherly love from shagun for 7 years for sure & she got a happy childhood than adi-ruhi for also.Shagun did only manipulate pihu after ishita came into picture.

And i din't said ishita is a great mother and i will say there is no mother who is prefect in the world. And we know ishita is a mahaan that's why some thinks she want to stand with right and want to leave adi.But if she was a normal mother then ishita would act only selfish even after knowing her children being criminal because she is a mother and for every mother her child come first not others or whats right.And ishita had said to aliyas face once for her after adi-ruhi-pihu only she or anyone comes.And i'm not telling she want to save adi or she was right in saying aliya to forgive him.I think we were not discussing about on-going story or new adi anything thats why id din't pointed.And yes she was saving her son like a normal mother will do it shows what adi is to her but then she didn't keep mute she did tried to install adi what is right and wrong.And she did said only one thing she will try to get back her old adi with love or beating.And she was ok with raman pushing adi outside his house. I think aliya also want adi isn't.Ishita is only trying to understand what is happening around her.We are seeing what adi is doing but ishita is only seeing the scenes happening in front of her and she will take to time to digest a person like adi become like this her son become a real evil who have no redemption.She was a mother to adi-aliya.She will be in fix.Its not easy to stand in her shoes.And u want to wait for final decision by ishita.

I'm also not telling she is a mother india but surely she is a good mother & she had given whatever values she can given to them in short period of time.And after that if her children had went through wrong path because of the manipulation of people around them and some of the quality they have from childhood(before she enters their life)then it not her fault.And for me she is a good mother that any child can get & but she was not there from starting of these children life that's why their is no stability in children's life.And yes i had read carefully and i understood what u wrote...this is what u wrote [Ishita not marrying Raman and Ruhi living with Raman, would have been a stable childhood, I would totally go for that than suffer at the hands of someone like Nidhi.] U weretellingtwoscenarios.But u want to know one thing its not because of ishita nidhi become enemy of raman or his family.So if ruhi is with raman or with both ishita & raman it doesnt matter because nidhi can come in ruhis life and kidnapp her anyways,it have nothing to do with ishita or her entry into ruhis/ramans life.Because nidhi was ramans enemy.So what is there to compare the above two scenario in first place😕.yhm is not only about ruhi-ishita but it is about 3 broken souls raman-ishita-ruhi.So just because ruhi got kidnapped and she lost her childhood it doesnt mean ishras marriage was not needed/ishitas entry into rumans life nor it is because of ishra marriage ruhis life spoiled.Like ishimaa-ruhi ishra too plays a major role in yhm.The story and their marriage is also for ishra as a couple not only for ruhi-ishimaa...thats why they showed the strength of ishras love each time.And yhm is not about ishimaa(she may have become ishimaa to many people now)but the intial story of yhm was just about 3 broken souls who become others strength and how they starts to live their life for each other forgetting their bitter past.And their was a child ,a man and a women who was broken beyond repair and these three become each others life this was the real yhm story.Not only about ishimaa(that ishimaa was also just for ruhi at the starting).

And i was saying if ishita was there in ruhis life or not... that kidnap would had happened if it wanted to happened that's why i said nidhi was not ishita's enemy but raman's/bhallas.If ishita marry raman to give that child mothers love it doesnt mean with that marriage she certifies ruhis whole life safety...parents can only try their level best to protect their children but cant guarantee everything.Ishita is a mother not an employee that if something goes wrong we will question her motherhood and her reason of marriage(in past ...after their marriage it changed from ruhi kaliya to un kaliya only)etc.Then we can say if raman had married nidhi instead of shagun then ruhi itself will not be in the world then problem solved.If because of our loved ones we had went through some problem then it doesn't mean we want to left our loved ones their own/think if they were not related to us then we wouldnt need to go through all this.Just like that i can't think ishita/raman caused problem to each others life so they shouldn't have been with each other(it was just for eg)people will fight for each other in every thick & thin its called love.Even after we tried to keep us and our loved one safe if something bad happened it means it was not in our hand and it was something that would have happened anyway.

Anyway we two have different thought's and i respect your thought's.Thnku.







You are taking the post in an entirely different context, it's not an emotional post, it was an analytical post, my emphasis was on the fact that Ishita has not spent the time in her kids life -

I read on forum that Ruhi is 22 years old - Ishita came in her life when she was 7-8 (As you said) so 22-7 = 15, then Ishita left her for 7 years so 15- 7 = 8 years then again Ishita left her for 2 years, 8 - 2 = 6 years and in between Ruhi spent few months with Shagun where Shagun made her work in a show business.

Don't know Adi's age but he has spent even less time with Ishita, because when Ruhi was with Ishita, Adi was with Shagun

Pihu would be around 10 now? Her first 7 years were without Ishita, then Ishita left for 2 more Years, Pihu has spent roughly 1-2 years with Ishita.

I never questioned her ability to be a mother, my point was that she was always ready to run away from her kid's life, and I was talking about current scenario only, because it was in last night's episode that Ishita spoke about her values she gave to Adi and it was extremely ridiculous that she was asking Alia to forgive him when he apologizes... I wrote the post only because I was talking about current scenario...

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