COULDN'T BREAK THE PROMISE I MADE TO SHAGUN.... 4/1/17 - Page 3

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Even adi,ruhi,pihu couldn't give shagun what this miscarriage gave her...alone time with raman away from everyone without any haddi for 10 days😉...even ishita didn't ever get this much alone time with raman though she is his legal wife and after her miscarriage to she only got pain because her husband was busy in gifting her a ready made child and irony is that time also the lady was shagun and excuse was also very similar "for her happiness"😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Add after so many years ,at this age,when she is married to another man 😆

Also add without informing their current respective partners😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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And the eye lock after Mani mentioned about he s thankful that shagun came into his life blah blah😡...
I absolutely hate it!!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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There s so.much of disconnect in Raman's character...
Is the situation still demanding it???
I can't really doubt KP...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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thank you for the review VIJI:)
just saw the Ishra scene ..was curious to know what was the secret he was hiding ..though i knew the answer still
Today Ishra scene cleared two nagging doubts in my mind

The first being ..may be just maybe I thought i was wrong in assuming that Raman didnt respect Ishu at all and absolutely cared two hoots about her feelings ..But a big thank you to the CVS for clearing my doubt

A husband who leaves his wife in TRAUMA ,in PAIN ,in SEVERE EMOTIONAL DISTRESS just so that he go and take care of his ex and honour a deceitful lie in hiding the truth ..certainly , does not respect or care for his wife feelings at all ..I will go as far as to say he does not love her..coz you do not hurt the person you love .period

and for this I will hold Ishu responsible for her self respect ,her feelings being shredded again and again by Raman..A womans strength does not lie in taking crap from your spouse ..it lies in standing up for your self respect..if only she had put her foot down when the abuse first begun things wouldnt have come down to this ..I wish she had shown the vulnerable side of her as a mother when she lost her own baby ..it was so very out of place her commiserating with shagun loss..couldn't connect at all..A strong woman does NOT MEAN A WOMAN WITHOUT EMOTIONS AND FEELINGS ..and her dostana with shagun ..well ..😕


Raman was always flawed to the extent of being a coward ..this is where the cvs have done a grave injustice to his character..A flawed male lead is acceptable to me but Cowardice as a characteristic is totally abominable.. ..he comes across as a spineless man which is sad but unfortunately this is what the post leap Raman is all about..

second doubt was Is Shagun really the lead of YHM ..i thought probably i was being hard on the character..but thank you CVS for sending a loud and clear message that SHAGUN IS THE MAIN LEAD AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS PERIPHERAL..

Yhm is a sinking ship or maybe has already sunk and all the people associated with are either abandoning it or just going through the motion in an act of disenchantment

Maybe they feel after squeezing this serial dry now it is better to look outside this serial ..hopefully the greener pastures that they are looking at is really GREEN and not DRY HAY
Whether they would like to admit it or nor everyone associated with YHM have tasted success which one can only dream off only because of YHM ..there are scores of goodlooking talented actors languishing in the dark anonymity only coz they didnt the get THE BREAK ..

and Ekta kapoor whether she likes it or not the truth is she had got a golden opportunity to rise above the Garbage she dishes out to present a beautifully creative story ..Just my bad that i thought an inept person like her could even do something like that
and if is she thinks she can replicate yhm in her other upcoming serials,tbh it will be an onerous task for her ..probably impossible too

people are saurated with her kaun kiska pati ..mera ya tumhara ya kisi aur ka..asli maa ..naqli maa..revenge drama//pehli shaadi doosri shaddi ..half shaddis ..blahblah

with every track i thought they might just" RECREATE " the beauty of YHM of the yore ..but alas all i got to see was shagun "PROCREATE" for the benefiit of the HUMAN RACE..

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Viji, Nice post.
Maya, after a long time... welcome back... your anger is justified. But any questions we pose will not be answered.
Here is my rant. I am disgusted with the way this track unfolded today as a woman, as a wife and as a mother. Raman's revelation of the truth regarding Shagun is another level of deception and lies and breaking of the trust altogether on many levels. And not letting Ishita walk out of this deceptive and no respect relationship is angering me as a woman today. There have to be some core values that need to be retained even in fiction. and this show sunk so low and i have no words to describe.

This is exactly what I wrote in my post yesterday in Viji thread...How Raman is still Shagun's.. And I'm not wrong in what I wrote or in my understanding of the way story will go from now on.. Ishita will be there in Raman's life as his wife without any rights or respect or expectations fulfilling his biological needs and be there to take care of his family and be a nanny for his and Shagun kids while he runs after Shagun his first love, life, wife and fulfilling the promises he made to her while she is a wife to another man...Raman is truly Shagun's" half husband" and their connection is not just kids it's beyond that..What a disgusting turn the story took.
The current plot keeps Ishita because CVS need her to show romance with Raman. What a shame they made Ishita character as. She is reduced to sexual object for Raman...and I am not even wrong in saying this as the upcoming date of Ishita and Raman proves that.

So the story is how Raman and Shagun stand together through the thick and thin, and good and bad and happiness (Raman deceived Ishita successfully and surrogacy is successful with Shagun) and sorrow (Shagun miscarried Mani's child and how Raman became a pillar of strength for her in her time of crisis)...But, But Shagun is not Raman's wife anymore and Raman is not Shagun's husband anymore. They are married to different people and this standing by each other as a pillar of support came too late in their life.

I never once hated Shagun for walking out on an unhappy marriage but I had a problem with how she did it behind Raman's back and cheating him with illicit relationship with Ashok. But again she wanted to have all her ducks in a row so if Ashok didn't work out she always have an option that is Raman to fall back.

What I would have expected from Raman a man who was broken by deception who knew what it feels like someone whom he trusted and loved deceives him not to do that to anyone as he knew the pain. But what we had to witness was he turned around and did deceive the person who loved him and trusted him with surrogacy and that too with his ex-wife. Hence these two - Raman and Shagun became partners in crime. Today what they both did? Hide the truth of Shagun's miscarriage from Mani and Raman staying and taking care of his "half wife" Shagun from his legally wedded wife not just once but twice. If a woman could be deceived with surrogacy how a man can be deceived... bingo, by hiding the truth about his wife's miscarriage. And not once Raman thought it was wrong thing to hide it from Mani and not telling the truth about his whereabouts with Ishita?

So the day Vandu died, after Raman tended to Shagun (it's not revealed how he ended up there... oh may be what Nidhi told Ishita that Raman came to Shagun. Ok, but then Shagun didn't share about Nidhi with Raman? If she did why was he surprised when Ishita told him about Nidhi... ok I will leave it) and missed so many calls from Ishita he came running home. But as soon as he heard the news that Vandu was killed in an accident he turned around and walked away instead of even pausing to lend a shoulder to his devastated wife... so, for him Shagun and her losing of her 3 month pregnancy was more important than consoling Ishita who is his wife who lost her grown sister, a mother, and a daughter and a friend to him.

And his promise to protect Shagun's secret was much, much more important that he was willing to take the murder charge on to himself and ready to go to jail. But I got to give it to Raman who knows how to use Ishita. For him to be out to take care of Shagun he only need to tell the truth of him not doing the crime. That's it. He gets bailed out and watched his wife being slapped, cursed, disowned by her parents... but his heart was in the right place where Shagun lives. So, as soon as he was out he rushed back by receiving a phone call from his "half wife" Shagun. No consoling words nothing... just leave and let Ishita find out the culprit.

This is the same man who couldn't console his wife Ishita who lost her miracle child in an accident while protecting his whole family and who immediately went on to have surrogacy done to satisfy his ego today went to his ex-wife and stood by her and consoled her in her loss of losing a child. btw who already have 3 kids. But hey she is important as she is "Asli Ma" of his kids.

When I read Twilight I was surprised to read the concept of "Imprinting" but never researched about it. Here is how it is explained... the story has both vampires and wolves. The Indian tribe in the village have these traits of Wolf and there is one girl who is in love with another guy who has these Wolf traits. But he could never love her back because it gets revealed later that that girl cannot be a mother ever. So, it's explained that they get imprint the girls that can have kids with them. No kids no connection. Now I am witnessing in YHM as Ishita can never become a mother to Raman's child physically he holds no attraction towards her. As he never married her out of love, she came into his life for him to get the custody of Ruhi. But she truly became mother for his kids once they accepted her first Ruhi then Adi. But he couldn't honor that either.

Once again he as a father knows how it pains to not have his kids with him yet on that fateful day he decided to throw the mother out of his kids' life. He gave her the punishment that he cried for many years for being away from Adi. It's quite opposite to what we witness today with Shagun and Ishita. Ishita who understands what it is to lose a pregnancy consoled Shagun who never had a one good thing to say about Ishita. Today, irrespective of Raman couldn't stand by her in her hour of need she let it go.

What hurt me today is the nature of Raman who disregarding his wife's pain and hurt went and consoled his ex-wife and stood by her as a pillar to support her in the crisis which her husband should have done. And as a husband to Ishita he should have stood by her in her hour of need.

So what is Ishita to Raman? Marriage in Hindu culture says

"Dharmecha Arthecha Kamecha Naathicharami"

The Hindu marriage vow stating "I promise to stand by you as a righteous partner during times of uncertainties, overcoming all desires of riches and needs. From this moment on I promise to embrace and cherish everything life has to offer with you."

And nowhere has it mentioned kids. But for Raman marriage has no meaning, once Shagun walked out of his life he became so bitter and angry. The compromise he made was called marriage because without that stamp he could never get the custody of Ruhi... from then on he did quite opposite to the marriage vows that mentioned above to the point he discarded her not only from his life but from her kids life too.

Right now as I see the relationship between Raman and Ishita it's not that of a husband and wife where they are equal. Her role in his life is reduced to more of a "Keep" who would get neither the respect, nor love, and there is no need to keep the promises made to her by him. And when things don't work as per his wishes then she will be thrown out else she is there to romance him. This disgusts me as a woman and kudos to starplus and the CVS that transpose a wife into a "Keep" and an ex-wife to be the most important part of her ex-husband's life where he is still obligated to fulfill the marriage vows he took with her decades ago though they are no longer a husband and wife anymore. I want to call this relationship as "Half Husband" and "Half Wife" that is Raman and Shagun. Nayi soch indeed.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mayasun

Viji,


For the first time I am doubting Raman love for Ishita.

I never even doubted it during last April nor when he was spewing those venomous words to her but right now I am thinking does Ishita hold any significance in his life.

It was more important to him to take care of Shagun miscarriage than to console his grieving wife who not only lost her sister, her husband accused of murder he did not commit and her parents and jeeju disowning her so Ishita feeling and her hurt never matter to Raman only Shagun emotional trauma of losing a baby matters to him😡🤬

Leave Raman what does Ishtia think about her place in Raman life. She is so disgusting to take all these actions from Raman. She was okay with Raman doing seva for Shagun instead of consoling her. Does she even value herself first.😡

What was the dialogue of Ishita cannot handle the truth and she will confront them if she knows it. Ishita did not even cry for her miracle baby demise so why would she be not able to handle Shagun miscarriage. IS Shagun miscarriage more devastating news for Ishita than her parents disowning her.

My one very legal question though. For a hospital to conduct an abortion they need signature both from the wife and husband Mani did not even know that his wife in undergoing a surgery so did Raman sign as Shagun husband as well for the surgery to take place.

The way the story is shaping it looks like

Raman only loves Shagun so that is why he keeps all his promises to her and he is there when she emotionally needs him whereas Ishita is a convenience for him who runs his family smoothly.

Ishita is grateful to Raman for marrying her with her disability so she is okay with whatever crap he throws at in her and forgives him.



I have not watched the episodes and I am not planning to watch it also because it is way disgusting to see Raman always prefers Shagun over Ishita.




Hi Maya
You nailed everything...when all gel was breaking loose in his family. Own his wife and what's the only thing running in his mind? Shagun!...W*F...are cvs showing raman has residual feeling?..he was devastated with the news that he left his wife who was a wreck and ran to her ...I'm ok with helping her..hiding and staying with her thru thentreatment,..he could've called aaliya ...but no. Even today he was visibly uoset ..when he said shagun lost her baby...I was like dude..you wife lost her sister, never had time to mourn , fighting to set you freee, did you even have courtesy to ask how she's holding up? No..I wish they showed sharam hospital scenes...that would've sealed the deal for me to,bid adieu to,this stupid show. CVs ruined of whatever Ishra was left...I'm nit going to see Raman the same way anymore. Why can't they end ishuta with character and show new yhm..with new montage..with sharam as a happy family...
raman went one step further and proved his loyalty towards shagun by ke aunt his grieving wife behind, got special permission and left city to take care of his ex...who lost a child with her current husband. And like you said me too wondering who signed and papers and as what ?
Maya can ishuta throw a tantrum ...no...he never chose to,share until today...out of guilty...ishuta never asked him anything...it only hsows shagun I shis family and nit ishuta..ishuta is nothing but a manager...that's it. Maya..watch today...he will blame her for hiding things..ansnwhat didnhe do the exact sam wth I'm going..an she's still hiding that it was he as gulabo. Maya ishuta has no expectations from him...she gave up...that's what you saw today...she's ok coz that's her benevolent character. @ red...to,him oh yeah...@ pink...you summed it very well..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: DikshaN

happy April fools day to us
The reason is as usual lame and now i know never to expect anything good from this shows CVS
CVS again made us fools like last year
Congratulations to them
so shaguns miscarriage is more important than vandus death and ishus sufferings is that what the CVS want to show ???
ruhi is a brat and Aditi with her acting has made me hate the character
Adi was atleast trying to resolve things and said sorry for her mistakes but ruhi was simply disgusting
she will fall flat on her face one day
what kind of attitude is that ??
i know everything I'm better than u rubbish
thankfully Adi told Raman that he taunts him and spoke about ruhis behaviour too and the way ruhi behaved in front of everyone i still doubt after all the past experiences if anyone will correct her
and mani is another idiot
after all that he has done it should actually be ishra cancelling the alliance and not him
he is not even guilty about anything wow
precap is more dramatic
Loved the way how Raman fired both of them but his reason for putting ishu through so much of mental torchur when she was already dealing with her sisters death was disappointing maybe they changed the script at the last moment i don't know but shows who is priority
Bala seems to be a better husband than Raman maybe Raman could be a good husband to shagun but for ishu he is a disappointment
atleast romi was there to console mihika when vandu died but Raman wasn't even available for that sadly
she went through everything alone and when the whole thing is solved he comes back
now I'm happy that they may show Adi alia as the new leads good for us since atleast i can move away from this show

Hi Congo your color changed...enjoy your new status
Yes..all this for stupid reason...and the hiding part and staying with her...when his wife was going thru...what a new low for this character.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: swa6

Viji...

Happy April Fool's Day😆😆😆


TODAY I GOT TO KNOW THE MEANING OF ETERNAL LOVE...🤢

Did you?

Ofcourse...😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: DikshaN

it is disgusting that raman is ready to do anything for shagun
he not only left his wife in mental trauma but also was ready to go to jail to safeguard shaguns secret wow

Very commendable isn't it 👏

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