THE PROMISE - Page 2

Originally posted by: swa6

Loved it...

Originally posted by: swa6

Did she? So far I heard aap only..

Originally posted by: Diya.mukherjee

yes she said tumhe koyi has nhi banta ... Nd the rest

Originally posted by: Lacustris

Thank you for the review Viji..so the drama is unfolding fast it seems. But once again I'm not going to talk about the entire epi but what I have problem with. Looks like I'm stuck at the crass dialogs of Raman regarding his disregard or disdain for Ishita as a mother and his denial of the same.

A story of a child(ren) who gave birth to a MOTHER

Here is why I feel Raman's dialog of calling Ishita not a mother is wrong and hurtful.

They both are wrong in so many fronts and I don't support them at all. But as the story promised it's a story of a mother who couldn't be a mother and a child who couldn't get mother's love.

I am glad at least Ishita voiced out what she felt or made to feel by Raman all the time. And the points I am making here pertains only why I take offense in Raman calling Ishita not a mother to Ruhi and nothing else.

Raman and Ishita:

As we know how their story started. They hated each other and it's evident in every one of their meetings prior to their marriage.

So Raman calls Shagun sagi ma as per one of the segments and blames Ishita that blood speaks for all or something like that. Right? So the Shagun the ex-sagi ma walks out of Raman's life calling him he is so useless and throws Ruhi on his face saying you wanted to have her so keep her and leaves for her lover. Fine. So what did Raman do with Ruhi? Neglected her. That little girl was craving to talk to this man for his touch but he neglected her...

Ishita couldn't adopt a child again due to the fiasco that happened in her life due to Raman's impulsiveness and she is starving to shower her love on a child. So she found Ruhi and Ruhi found her... God smiled on them.

But once again due to Ishita Raman lost Ruhi to Shagun... and now Raman realized that he lost his neglected, rolling in the dust toy was with his ex-sagi ma. He should have let her keep Ruhi. Right? Nope. Now he wants that toy back. It's not that Shagun will keep Ruhi happy and care for her? No. she wants to settle scores with Raman by snatching his toy. So he starts to fight for his toy legally. Because he can only realize once it's gone from his hand. But what happened. God lives in children and she chose not his sagi Ma or Papa who didn't care for her but the neighbor aunty who showed little love for the lost child. Think of the shock to the actual parents.

So the game starts. Raman reluctantly agrees to marry Ishita the one person he hated most to get the legal rights for Ruhi. The court gives the custody to "Ishita Raman Bhalla" - not to Raman Bhalla or not to Shagun Arora. Just by marrying the man she hates the most Ishita became a mother to Ruhi. This is the story of "A child giving birth to a Mother".

So, Ishita came into Raman's life not as his wife but as a mother to Ruhi. And for Ruhi she stayed on taking in all insults and humiliations from Raman. I remember one scene where Ruhi is so afraid that her mother would leave her because of her father's ill treatment and misbehavior with her mother. And Raman's answer to that was for Ruhi her ishima will tolerate him and his misbehavior. Look at the seed that just got planted in Raman's mind. Instead of feeling or telling his daughter that for her happiness he will be nice to her mother he reiterated the fact that Ishita will take all the crap he dishes out on her and he stayed true to his statement from then on. But the silver lining here is he never stopped to acknowledge Ishita not as Ruhi's mother. He believed that she is Ruhi's mother and so are all the Bahallas. Even in Param fiasco Raman took Ruhi to Ishita's mothers house and leaves her there with her mother.

Now the next phase in their life - his son. He still misses him... so situations bring his son to him and along with him came his ex-sagi ma. Again time to time things started going out of hands and Ishita was getting humiliated at the hands of Raman for her being the ishima and been thrown out but she came crawling back. Back for Ruhi and for Ruhi she tolerated him again and again. Finally, when Shagun puts both kids' life in danger Ishita saves them and now she not only has a daughter but gained a son.

Mind you, Raman played no role in with Ishita getting a daughter and son. They choose her by their own free will.

Don't want to mention Pihu here as her birth is nothing but a heartbreak and deception and Ishita and he didn't share a thing regarding Pihu. He donated his swimmers to Shagun and he shared the enjoyment of the baby kick with Shagun and shared the growing years of Pihu with Shagun and nowhere ishita's Chaya was in Pihu's life not even on the birth certificate. He ruthlessly denied her right on Pihu as a mother and called Shagun as Pihu's asli ma. And the irony is Pihu never called Ishita as mamma or amma. That is the gift of motherhood Raman gave to Ishita. His kids made her mother but when it is his chance to make her a mother he utterly failed.

Soon Ruhi and Pihu kidnapping drama happened. And I clearly didn't see what was Raman's plan to save his wife and two young and helpless daughters that too one in dire need of medical attention as she was a pre mature baby. So they lost Ruhi, blame was put on Ishita and was unceremoniously thrown out of his and his kids' life by Raman Bhalla...

Really Raman? You can throw her out as your wife as you are married to her but as a mother? Did you make her one man? She was made a mother by your two kids. And Pihu doesn't count. She would have counted if you let her stay and take care of her child as you wanted to gift her with a gift wrap and a bow. But you decided she doesn't deserve this gift and went and handed over to your ex-sagi ma. Claps...

So fast forward to 7 years. Ruhi was found and rescued... thanks but no thanks... not due to Raman's intelligence but circumstances and Romi and Ishita pursuing Nidhi... of course he needed to be credited for grabbing Nidhi... so once again Ruhi is found alive. But refused to come to her parents. Here he couldn't use the ex-sagi ma though she is Ruhi's birth mother but he needed Ishita to get Ruhi back. After that he was ready to throw her out. So with lots of anguish and pain and begging from ishita Ruhi stayed on.

But again Pihu and Shagun played a game. Raman for making Shagun asli ma for Pihu had to pay the price and the price comes from Ishita's tears and pain again. A game plan is hatched and played. Pihu returned or decided to give her mother (that she only acknowledged as per her sister's saying and not because Raman played a role to bring her close to Ishita. A significance of this is he couldn't make her rather failed to make her mother here also) a chance.

But fate played again. So Ruhi is convicted of murder and jailed. Raman blamed whom? Ishita again. His favorite words played again that she is not his wife and not Ruhi's mother. Again talk about the rights that he didn't give to Ishita but ready to take them away.

If Ishita lashed at him for making her feel baanjh constantly I am with her. It's about time that Ishita telling Raman that he didn't make her mother but the kids did. If he is having a problem with her as his wife, he can be free to divorce her. But he has no right to deny her rights as a mother.

Let's see how the future episodes will play out. Long rant but frustrated with the one dialog over and over. If Ishita is made to do things illegally or wrong she is wrong... but the focus should be moved from uttering these crappy dialogs is what I feel strongly.

Originally posted by: Lacustris

Thank you for the review Viji..so the drama is unfolding fast it seems. But once again I'm not going to talk about the entire epi but what I have problem with. Looks like I'm stuck at the crass dialogs of Raman regarding his disregard or disdain for Ishita as a mother and his denial of the same.

A story of a child(ren) who gave birth to a MOTHER

Here is why I feel Raman's dialog of calling Ishita not a mother is wrong and hurtful.

They both are wrong in so many fronts and I don't support them at all. But as the story promised it's a story of a mother who couldn't be a mother and a child who couldn't get mother's love.

I am glad at least Ishita voiced out what she felt or made to feel by Raman all the time. And the points I am making here pertains only why I take offense in Raman calling Ishita not a mother to Ruhi and nothing else.

Raman and Ishita:

As we know how their story started. They hated each other and it's evident in every one of their meetings prior to their marriage.

So Raman calls Shagun sagi ma as per one of the segments and blames Ishita that blood speaks for all or something like that. Right? So the Shagun the ex-sagi ma walks out of Raman's life calling him he is so useless and throws Ruhi on his face saying you wanted to have her so keep her and leaves for her lover. Fine. So what did Raman do with Ruhi? Neglected her. That little girl was craving to talk to this man for his touch but he neglected her...

Ishita couldn't adopt a child again due to the fiasco that happened in her life due to Raman's impulsiveness and she is starving to shower her love on a child. So she found Ruhi and Ruhi found her... God smiled on them.

But once again due to Ishita Raman lost Ruhi to Shagun... and now Raman realized that he lost his neglected, rolling in the dust toy was with his ex-sagi ma. He should have let her keep Ruhi. Right? Nope. Now he wants that toy back. It's not that Shagun will keep Ruhi happy and care for her? No. she wants to settle scores with Raman by snatching his toy. So he starts to fight for his toy legally. Because he can only realize once it's gone from his hand. But what happened. God lives in children and she chose not his sagi Ma or Papa who didn't care for her but the neighbor aunty who showed little love for the lost child. Think of the shock to the actual parents.

So the game starts. Raman reluctantly agrees to marry Ishita the one person he hated most to get the legal rights for Ruhi. The court gives the custody to "Ishita Raman Bhalla" - not to Raman Bhalla or not to Shagun Arora. Just by marrying the man she hates the most Ishita became a mother to Ruhi. This is the story of "A child giving birth to a Mother".

So, Ishita came into Raman's life not as his wife but as a mother to Ruhi. And for Ruhi she stayed on taking in all insults and humiliations from Raman. I remember one scene where Ruhi is so afraid that her mother would leave her because of her father's ill treatment and misbehavior with her mother. And Raman's answer to that was for Ruhi her ishima will tolerate him and his misbehavior. Look at the seed that just got planted in Raman's mind. Instead of feeling or telling his daughter that for her happiness he will be nice to her mother he reiterated the fact that Ishita will take all the crap he dishes out on her and he stayed true to his statement from then on. But the silver lining here is he never stopped to acknowledge Ishita not as Ruhi's mother. He believed that she is Ruhi's mother and so are all the Bahallas. Even in Param fiasco Raman took Ruhi to Ishita's mothers house and leaves her there with her mother.

Now the next phase in their life - his son. He still misses him... so situations bring his son to him and along with him came his ex-sagi ma. Again time to time things started going out of hands and Ishita was getting humiliated at the hands of Raman for her being the ishima and been thrown out but she came crawling back. Back for Ruhi and for Ruhi she tolerated him again and again. Finally, when Shagun puts both kids' life in danger Ishita saves them and now she not only has a daughter but gained a son.

Mind you, Raman played no role in with Ishita getting a daughter and son. They choose her by their own free will.

Don't want to mention Pihu here as her birth is nothing but a heartbreak and deception and Ishita and he didn't share a thing regarding Pihu. He donated his swimmers to Shagun and he shared the enjoyment of the baby kick with Shagun and shared the growing years of Pihu with Shagun and nowhere ishita's Chaya was in Pihu's life not even on the birth certificate. He ruthlessly denied her right on Pihu as a mother and called Shagun as Pihu's asli ma. And the irony is Pihu never called Ishita as mamma or amma. That is the gift of motherhood Raman gave to Ishita. His kids made her mother but when it is his chance to make her a mother he utterly failed.

Soon Ruhi and Pihu kidnapping drama happened. And I clearly didn't see what was Raman's plan to save his wife and two young and helpless daughters that too one in dire need of medical attention as she was a pre mature baby. So they lost Ruhi, blame was put on Ishita and was unceremoniously thrown out of his and his kids' life by Raman Bhalla...

Really Raman? You can throw her out as your wife as you are married to her but as a mother? Did you make her one man? She was made a mother by your two kids. And Pihu doesn't count. She would have counted if you let her stay and take care of her child as you wanted to gift her with a gift wrap and a bow. But you decided she doesn't deserve this gift and went and handed over to your ex-sagi ma. Claps...

So fast forward to 7 years. Ruhi was found and rescued... thanks but no thanks... not due to Raman's intelligence but circumstances and Romi and Ishita pursuing Nidhi... of course he needed to be credited for grabbing Nidhi... so once again Ruhi is found alive. But refused to come to her parents. Here he couldn't use the ex-sagi ma though she is Ruhi's birth mother but he needed Ishita to get Ruhi back. After that he was ready to throw her out. So with lots of anguish and pain and begging from ishita Ruhi stayed on.

But again Pihu and Shagun played a game. Raman for making Shagun asli ma for Pihu had to pay the price and the price comes from Ishita's tears and pain again. A game plan is hatched and played. Pihu returned or decided to give her mother (that she only acknowledged as per her sister's saying and not because Raman played a role to bring her close to Ishita. A significance of this is he couldn't make her rather failed to make her mother here also) a chance.

But fate played again. So Ruhi is convicted of murder and jailed. Raman blamed whom? Ishita again. His favorite words played again that she is not his wife and not Ruhi's mother. Again talk about the rights that he didn't give to Ishita but ready to take them away.

If Ishita lashed at him for making her feel baanjh constantly I am with her. It's about time that Ishita telling Raman that he didn't make her mother but the kids did. If he is having a problem with her as his wife, he can be free to divorce her. But he has no right to deny her rights as a mother.

Let's see how the future episodes will play out. Long rant but frustrated with the one dialog over and over. If Ishita is made to do things illegally or wrong she is wrong... but the focus should be moved from uttering these crappy dialogs is what I feel strongly.

Originally posted by: mayasun

Hi Diya,

What is the difference between aap and tum doesn't both refer to calling a person.

Originally posted by: mayasun

Hi Viji,

In YHM everything happens after the expiry date. We got confession after we stopped hoping they would ever give one. We got consummation after a insecurity track which did not make sense at all at that time because both IshRa were completely in love with each other at that time now we have a Ishita who is standing up this one was needed after the first leap but as usual YHM is brining it after the expiry date. My only hope is even though it is lateI want them to dwell really well into this track concentrating on IshRA alone I would not mind if its a long track but I don't want this finished with a episode of nok-johk until next problem arises.

Coming to the episodes both yesterday and today.

It was ridiculous and yes a toned down version of first leap is playing.

What the hell was that Ruhi is sleeping in the cell with a blackmail letter under her. First and foremost every single person has to be present when their is a function happening in the remand home no leniency is given to them to stay in the cell unless and until they are really sick here though they are showing as if she is sleeping in her room. Second every prisoner is checked thoroughly both physically as well as the things they have and if they warden found out about blackmail letter he/she needs to report it to higher authorities immediately regarding the same but here it looks like she was not even checked.

Leave Ruhi what about Raman he got a hard evidence to prove his kid is innocent and what does he do he leaves the paper lying around as if it is garbage and is concentrating on escaping her. I would not mind him concentrating on that but to leave a hard evidence as if it did not matter did not sit well with me.

Romi finally got his brain back after the truck was stopped as to what would have happened if Ruhi got caught she would have been in a bigger problem.

Ishita another nut case I was okay with her sending Ruhi back to prison but why does she have to take Nidhi outside of jail she could have just let the man drive the truck empty.

Shagun another nut case all the food is tested before giving it to the prisoner and as far as I know prisoner cannot roam around freely then how come Nidhi was roaming around freely or for that matter Shagun/Ishita were just standing outside to go inside the remand home then how did she get tainted ladoos.(i.e which makes some loses the conscious when they eat) does she carry it with herself all the time so that she can use it whenever it is needed.

The truck scene was ridiculous at its best what the hell Raman was trying to do. Did he even think what his action would result it? Is he the same CEO who thinks with his brain?

And the famous dialogue baanj, sauteli mom cannot be repeated so they come up with milder version that you don't understand the pain of a parent because you cannot give birth once again this is milder version of first leap the only difference being here is instead of absorbing everything she is spitting it back to him.

Ishita was right today she told him after this many years I don't have to prove my love every time so her patience is lost lets see how long this holds.

Precap: Simmi questioning about Ruhi to Raman.