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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhilasha_dream

I agree complete... Family asking Shagun to return Pihu to Ishita as she is her biological mother then in that sense Ruhi and Adi needs to return to Shagun as she is their biological mother, then family should stop calling them as Ishita's kids as they are not.


If CV's would have gone the realistic way which is Shagun still positive and truth being revealed to Pihu then she would have certainly gone to Shagun and hated Ishita as what she did was exactly what Shagun did to Ruhi as a child. This is the very reason why they have turned Shagun into negative now so that Pihu accepts Ishita whole heartedly and hate Shagun just like others. What diplomacy ??

Shagun turning negative now is completely reasonable as what CV's portrayed the Bhalla, Iyer family doing to her was completely injustice. I, myself would have felt cheated and betrayed and would have lashed back but here they are showing Shagun turning into out and out negative so that they can establish Ishita as good.

There is no comparision of Ishita and Shagun. Yes, both abandoned their kids for different reasons, but Ishita is no Shagun and just because Shagun looked after Pihu, it does not make her like Ishita. Insecurity of losing your daughter is one thing, scheming to get her is different. Ishra always did what was best for their kids even if it was detrimental to their relation as a couple. Ishita disappearing for 7 yrs is a anamoly to her character just as Raman abandoning her that night. This is all done for different shades of Shagun. Shagun is all about rights, if it was about love, she would told Pihu about her real mother and let Pihu decide..instead of losing everything. Cvs have done injustice to step mothers/adopted mothers in this serial. Shagun is not married to Raman, so it does not make her anything to Pihu, except her guardian or nanny. You do not give your child to a guardian or nanny just because they took care of your child in her mothers absence.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: 3fra

pihu will end up with her family & her real parents, you are selfish like shagun, want pihu as revange tool nothing els if shagun love pihu will tell her truth & let the kid decided not take her away from her family & real parents did you ever think if pihu find truth ,she will love shagun no or trust her



Whatsup with you and the emphasis on the word 'real' parents. 😆 I guess you want every kid in the show to be with their 'real' parents. Including Ruhi and Aadi 😉
And yes, m selfish when it comes to my kids. I'll never run away and chill with my frnd in Australia without even calling to check on my daughter once. 😉 So, plese refrain from making personal comments and reply in a dignified way, if possible.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Veronica

I could hug you for this post. I felt the same way but dared not open
my mouth because I knew to do so would be to ask for brickbats, eggs, tomatoes and more to be thrown at me.

I do not understand why some obvious questions are not asked: when Ishita was in Australia, why was her life completely about Mani and Aliya? Even in her own privacy, she never self-talked about Ruhi or the baby, not once. Instead it was all laughter and fun as if the kids never happened.

I thought so often that she would talk to a photograph of Ruhi, apologise to her and talk to her about the baby sister she left behind. We were not shown these scenes once. She never ever remembered her kids. CVs never offered an explanation for how the world's best mother behaved in this abominable fashion.

So Ruhi was quite right in being miffed about not being remembered. A mother will never forget her children, dead or alive. In this case there was a new-born for whom she never ever shed tears.

Shagun could have been kept positive but that wouldn't be Ekta's story, would it?

I'm a silent reader and am astounded at the extent of the worship of the lead couple. It seems the biggest mistake the FL did was not to marry the ML in real life!

Well am expecting a shower of brickbats etc. Don't think I'll comment again.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: The_Imane

Haha agree with you TM.

It's all double standards, if step mom matters more then give Pihu to Shagun, if real mom matters more even if she left her children like trash then give Ruhi back to Shagun.

But no cvs dont have any logic, it's all and all Ishimaa the great !



Exactly!
Why does every child has to go to Ishima one way or the other! She is a terrible mother as well. They need to stop glorifying her. What if tomorrow, something happens to Ruhi and Ishita runs away again?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: rohini55

@Veronica

I could hug you for this post. I felt the same way but dared not open
my mouth because I knew to do so would be to ask for brickbats, eggs, tomatoes and more to be thrown at me.

I do not understand why some obvious questions are not asked: when Ishita was in Australia, why was her life completely about Mani and Aliya? Even in her own privacy, she never self-talked about Ruhi or the baby, not once. Instead it was all laughter and fun as if the kids never happened.

I thought so often that she would talk to a photograph of Ruhi, apologise to her and talk to her about the baby sister she left behind. We were not shown these scenes once. She never ever remembered her kids. CVs never offered an explanation for how the world's best mother behaved in this abominable fashion.

So Ruhi was quite right in being miffed about not being remembered. A mother will never forget her children, dead or alive. In this case there was a new-born for whom she never ever shed tears.

Shagun could have been kept positive but that wouldn't be Ekta's story, would it?

I'm a silent reader and am astounded at the extent of the worship of the lead couple. It seems the biggest mistake the FL did was not to marry the ML in real life!

Well am expecting a shower of brickbats etc. Don't think I'll comment again.




Awww.. A hug to u too!
And I am hardly bothered by juveniles attacking me personally for fictional characters 😆 They idiolise Ishita and act like Shagun 😆 Ahh, the irony!

Well Ishita did cry for Ruhi once or twice in Australia. Chalo theek hai. But she never bothered to call Aadi or Pihu once during seven years! That makes her as bad a mother as Shagun. In my opinion at least. Shagun dropped Ruhi like a hot potato and Ishita did the same with Pihu and Aadi. And no kid will want such a mother.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mreddy


There is no comparision of Ishita and Shagun. Yes, both abandoned their kids for different reasons, but Ishita is no Shagun and just because Shagun looked after Pihu, it does not make her like Ishita. Insecurity of losing your daughter is one thing, scheming to get her is different. Ishra always did what was best for their kids even if it was detrimental to their relation as a couple. Ishita disappearing for 7 yrs is a anamoly to her character just as Raman abandoning her that night. This is all done for different shades of Shagun. Shagun is all about rights, if it was about love, she would told Pihu about her real mother and let Pihu decide..instead of losing everything. Cvs have done injustice to step mothers/adopted mothers in this serial. Shagun is not married to Raman, so it does not make her anything to Pihu, except her guardian or nanny. You do not give your child to a guardian or nanny just because they took care of your child in her mothers absence.



Ishita was not even Ruhi's nanny when they developed a bond. She was a pados wali aunty. Ruhi wanted HER while raman and shagun were busy fighting for her custody. So for Ruhi's sake, they got Raman and Ishita married. So Ruhi can go to pados wali aunty turned mommy after a bond of few months but Pihu can't be given to her guardian or nanny as u say, who btw has treated Pihu as her own child! Wow. Ruhi knew Ishita wasnt her mom, but still got to be with her but Pihu, who believes that Shagun is her mom and loves her can't be with her mom coz well the mom is a nanny!

And in my opinion Ishita is as bad a mother as Shagun. A fight with ur husband is no justification to running away from home and not calling ur children. So IMO, pihu should not go to Ishita. That's what I think.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: Veronica.

Shagun is the one who gave a mother's love to Pihu and now that Ishita is back, they want Pihu to turn into another Ruhi and start calling her Ishima and stuff! Thats totally pathetic! Shagun maybe an evil b**** but only we, the audience, know that. The Bhallas are still under the impression that she is a doodh se dhuli saint. Then why in the world do they want Pihu for Ishita!! Double standards much?

Ishita abandoned Pihu. She left a new born baby and no reason can ever justify it. Maybe it was because of her own guilt for losing Ruhi or the terrible things Raman said to her, but it won't change the fact that she ran away without giving two hoots about her daughter. She never bothered to check on her daughter for seven years! And yet she is being portrayed as the only good mother on this damn planet!! Maybe she is a good mother to Ruhi and Aadi but to Pihu, m sorry but she is not. So CVs better stop trying to shove this non existant relationship of Pihu with Ishita down our throats. Just because Pihu is Ishita's biological daughter, doesn't mean that they need to share a 'special bond'. They have hinted towards this bond in the previous episodes and in the coming episodes m sure Pihu's Ishima jaap will be in full flow.

This is totally going against the concept of the show, that a stepmom can be a better mother than the real mom. It has suddenly become all about Ishita's great parenting skills and how everyone from ruhi to aaliya to pihu should want her and only her as their mom. This Shagun lady had no reason for turning negative now. They could have shown her getting married to Mani and Pihu willingly going to her. But NO. Now madam is negative, so poor pihu will go back to everybody's maa Ishima. Why can't Shagun be positive and have Pihu? Infact why can't negative Shagun have Pihu? She loves Pihu and is doing everything just to be with her daughter. Just like Ishita ran away with Ruhi once to keep her with herself.


You have raised a valid question but there is a difference.

Ishita may have abandoned Pihu but her reason for doing so was not self-serving as it was for Shagun when she left 6 month old Ruhi. Ishita thought she was a bad influence ( manhoos) for her loved ones and decided to stay away to to protect them. While I don't condone that... As its escapist and didn't fit Ishita's sketch.. It's still not narcissistic as Shagun's where she opted to have a better life and Ruhi was unnecessary baggage for that life, so she abandoned her.. They showed even during thr custody battle she had no interest in Ruhi.. But was doing everything to appease Ashok.

Secondly Ishita has first put the child's wishes first before her wishes.. Even the day Ruhi ( because of Ashok's threatening) chose Shagun over her.. She had accepted it .. Ruhi always had wanted Ishita with her since then .. So her running away with Ruhi .. Again wrong, but still can be understood. Ishita also never prevented any bonding between Shagun and her kids because she was insecure ( picnic during accident track). It has been unconditional mother's love.

Shagun though has been Pihu's mother for past seven years.. The minute her insecurities about Ishita has come in, she started her manipulation of Pihu to keep Ishita away from her ( at the hospital when Pihu was admitted with expired drug poisoning)...and it's going on. And going by Shagun's history where she used to manipulate Adi in her favor to score a point against Raman and later Ishita .. This is not turning her negative to make Ishita look better.. But it's within her sketch.. What was not within her sketch was the sudden turning into an angel NGO without any proper build up. Her latest stints are more within her sketch as Shagun was always narcissistic, self-serving more than anything.

Ishita vs Shagun as mother is more than about biological rights.. Ishita is a better mother with or without blood ties.. That's there from day one... And unlike the magic of 'creativity'( or lack of it) the cvs shows these days .. This is is not one of those.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Also this mahaanta business. All this while Ishita's one mantra was that Shagun had raised Pihu and so she was her mother. Each time Ruhi brought up the subject of Pihu needing to know who her real mother is, Ishita's response was Shagun had first claim on Pihu.

Suddenly and inexplicably she turns selfish, almost heartless, and insists that Pihu should stay with the family because she is also her mother. By this token, as you all pointed out, Ruhi and Adi should have gone along with Shagun.

This is a heads I win, tails you lose situation, but despite the flawed logic the FL gets away with being portrayed as Mahaan.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: rohini55

Also this mahaanta business. All this while Ishita's one mantra was that Shagun had raised Pihu and so she was her mother. Each time Ruhi brought up the subject of Pihu needing to know who her real mother is, Ishita's response was Shagun had first claim on Pihu.

Suddenly and inexplicably she turns selfish, almost heartless, and insists that Pihu should stay with the family because she is also her mother. By this token, as you all pointed out, Ruhi and Adi should have gone along with Shagun.

This is a heads I win, tails you lose situation, but despite the flawed logic the FL gets away with being portrayed as Mahaan.


Forget about FL... In desi soaps FL's are always portrayed as mahaan... But yhm has set a benchmark by portraying a vamp as mahaan...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Shagun shouldn't get Pihu...simply because we don't want another Shagun. .

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