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Posted: 9 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: kaa1202




That's the whole point of leap Kri..

From every perspective the end result is the same...

Ishita is nothing without a kid..

One way or other everyone proved it except Ruhi..

Sad but true...



That's what's proven to herself & so every action she will interpret that way.

She herself had value to Raman sans kids pre-leap especially in bhoot & jail track whether she realized or not.

But I will also propose the same applies idea applies to Raman and Shagun. Ishita married Raman bc he was Ruhi's father & she is going back and playing house with someone for the sake of the kid. Shagun also is being treated like trash honestly by Raman but she is around bc of Pihu. Shagun lost all value when Adi turned & same will happen for Pihu. Regardless of their ability to bear a child or not - at face value post-leap these 3 characters only have value out of what they do for kids. None are happy nor are they living

This importance of a person without the kid applies to them all.

But I disagree with you about this track's point. It is to break this thought for Ishita like guilt track was to make Raman realize he wasn't a failure...this is for Ishita to see she is more than a mother. It is for Ruhi and Raman "to realize her value" and bring her back - not just to take care of the kids.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r



This was the best episode for me. Loved every nuances of it. Ishita collecting his single tear and preserving it saying that is so precious for her and it shows how much my husband loves me and family. Superb it was.

I mean every dialogue uttered that day makes sense and stands the same even today.

Raman said that if Ishita is dead, he is also dead and he can never give her away to death when he is alive. Well, after Ishita's so-called death, literally he was a dead man until he saw his Ishita back. He is still unaware that she tried committing suicide. If he gets to know that, he is going to die a 100 deaths. He survived all these years only for Pihu, who was a symbol of their pure love.

Ishita on the other hand said more than Raman pushing her off the cliff, she died the moment she saw hatred for her in the eyes of her husband, which is true. The hatred in his eyes and his words pushed her to the jaws of death 7 years back.

Back then, Ruhi had divorced him and left his house. But then he had the support of Ishita to win Ruhi back. But now Ruhi has disowned both of them.

After the leap, the life of these three remain the same as depicted with that one beautiful episode... Cried buckets that day...😭😭

Cheers
Priya

u said it all...it ws the bestest epi...u know wat wen olv ws out of that scene there ws a pooja at home..home ws full of guests..i ws continously checking phn watching olv n commenting and mom ws glaring me hahaha... 😆
That scene ws pure pure ishra...it ws not for kids family or anyone it ws ek duje k liye...the hug ws bliss she ws not leaving him...the way she said sab saman hai yahan bt aap nahi ho..mujhe apke sath rehna hai..the way he broke down..ruhi samjhegi na ..wo mujhe maaf karenge na.. 😭 ..i can watch that epi again n again..
As u said their dialogues were true...the hatred in his eyes n harsh words drove her to death.n he ws dead too..he doesnt know anything wat exactly happened with her that night..
If it had not been for pihu raman too wud hv committed suicide..
I want some fb scenes of raman how he survived bt cvs not even giving his pov toh fb scenes no hopes...
This time too ishra milan scene shud b intense n heart wrenching..
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Posted: 9 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: gargpoo

u said it all...it ws the bestest epi...u know wat wen olv ws out of that scene there ws a pooja at home..home ws full of guests..i ws continously checking phn watching olv n commenting and mom ws glaring me hahaha... 😆
That scene ws pure pure ishra...it ws not for kids family or anyone it ws ek duje k liye...the hug ws bliss she ws not leaving him...the way she said sab saman hai yahan bt aap nahi ho..mujhe apke sath rehna hai..the way he broke down..ruhi samjhegi na ..wo mujhe maaf karenge na.. 😭 ..i can watch that epi again n again..
The hatred in his eyes n harsh words drove her to death n he ws dead too..
As u said their dialogues were true...the hatred in his eyes n harsh words drove her to death.he doesnt know anything wat exactly happened with her that night..
If it had not been for pihu raman too wud hv committed suicide..
I want some fb scenes of raman how he survived bt cvs not even giving his pov toh fb scenes no hopes...
This time too ishra milan scene shud b intense n heart wrenching..



I would love if they had flashbacks.

It's the perfect time for it with DT's absense. It could be shown as a mixture of realization that she left again and he would be pushed back to death...it could also include how if he contemplated suicide and what kept him alive...it could show why he was only nice to Pihu. Honestly his flashbacks could share his POV and add depth to Raman that's been missing post leap
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Posted: 9 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: -K.13-



I would love if they had flashbacks.

It's the perfect time for it with DT's absense. It could be shown as a mixture of realization that she left again and he would be pushed back to death...it could also include how if he contemplated suicide and what kept him alive...it could show why he was only nice to Pihu. Honestly his flashbacks could share his POV and add depth to Raman that's been missing post leap


But I dnt think we will get any bf's because Poora set change Karna padega and cv's are least intrested abt raman's POV all they want to show is Shagun and her insecurities but I would love to see how Raman coped up in these 7 yrs and if they want to stabilise trp they shld show something like this varna Shagun nahi bikti trp's nahi ayenge if they show too much Shagun I will be good if Raman shares all this with Ruhi and adi
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sri1091


But I dnt think we will get any bf's because Poora set change Karna padega and cv's are least intrested abt raman's POV all they want to show is Shagun and her insecurities but I would love to see how Raman coped up in these 7 yrs and if they want to stabilise trp they shld show something like this varna Shagun nahi bikti trp's nahi ayenge if they show too much Shagun I will be good if Raman shares all this with Ruhi and adi



Argh man

It's like the insecurity show.

They've clearly established how broken Ishita is, how insecure Shagun is becoming...and that's really all they've established. How are those 2 things enough?

This track had had so much potential

Like Shagun's insecurities should be shown and paralleled to how Ishita feels about herself...bc it's important for plot development

But man isn't Raman's full POV also important in making a case for why they want Ishita back? Don't give his POV/FBs for his character's sake...but they could show them to show just how integral Ishita is to his existence and sense of being.

Like how does that not add to the depth of the story? 😕
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -K.13-



That's what's proven to herself & so every action she will interpret that way.

She herself had value to Raman sans kids pre-leap especially in bhoot & jail track whether she realized or not.

But I will also propose the same applies idea applies to Raman and Shagun. Ishita married Raman bc he was Ruhi's father & she is going back and playing house with someone for the sake of the kid. Shagun also is being treated like trash honestly by Raman but she is around bc of Pihu. Shagun lost all value when Adi turned & same will happen for Pihu. Regardless of their ability to bear a child or not - at face value post-leap these 3 characters only have value out of what they do for kids. None are happy nor are they living

This importance of a person without the kid applies to them all.

But I disagree with you about this track's point. It is to break this thought for Ishita like guilt track was to make Raman realize he wasn't a failure...this is for Ishita to see she is more than a mother. It is for Ruhi and Raman "to realize her value" and bring her back - not just to take care of the kids.


I agree Kri...

But they seem to forget that particular point in executing this track as usual..

It seem to be way out of line right...

Just a thin line & the whole context looks bizarre to me...

I may be wrong but I feel so...😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -K.13-



Argh man

It's like the insecurity show.

They've clearly established how broken Ishita is, how insecure Shagun is becoming...and that's really all they've established. How are those 2 things enough?

This track had had so much potential

Like Shagun's insecurities should be shown and paralleled to how Ishita feels about herself...bc it's important for plot development

But man isn't Raman's full POV also important in making a case for why they want Ishita back? Don't give his POV/FBs for his character's sake...but they could show them to show just how integral Ishita is to his existence and sense of being.

Like how does that not add to the depth of the story? 😕


We know dat kri but for cv's their ultimate priority is Shagun Vuske alava kuch dikta nahi hein jab tak trp's nahi girte
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Posted: 9 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: kaa1202



I agree Kri...

But they seem to forget that particular point in executing this track as usual..

It seem to be way out of line right...

Just a thin line & the whole context looks bizarre to me...

I may be wrong but I feel so...😊



Execution is their failure always

But they are showing every post leap stereotypical thing - so a hunting down of the FL is a given even if DT wasn't leaving for break.

The context of the entire show is bizarre bc the core MUs and plot points they built post leap are very weak...largely bc you couldn't easily trace Raman's POV.

The IshMani angle, Raman's strike first thought process, a child abuser claiming custody, and now this "let's play fake house for Ruhi even if we both know we won't be together bc of our self percieved notions and inability to talk" all lack solid build up. They were in a rush for something or another & like the prime time parallel of women that they just threw these vital plot points into the mix without actually building them up...hence the giant disconnect with honestly everything 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -K.13-



I would love if they had flashbacks.

It's the perfect time for it with DT's absense. It could be shown as a mixture of realization that she left again and he would be pushed back to death...it could also include how if he contemplated suicide and what kept him alive...it could show why he was only nice to Pihu. Honestly his flashbacks could share his POV and add depth to Raman that's been missing post leap

it wud b awsm krishy...bt no hopes cvs r bsy in showing sautan saga n most imp character's insecurity n her shades etc...wen everyone has had many monologues abt their pain feelings n all ...then y the hell raman's pov is not important for cvs...y his feelings not explored...not a single scene how he survived...y pihu is his jaan ...no nothing...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -K.13-



Execution is their failure always

But they are showing every post leap stereotypical thing - so a hunting down of the FL is a given even if DT wasn't leaving for break.

The context of the entire show is bizarre bc the core MUs and plot points they built post leap are very weak...largely bc you couldn't easily trace Raman's POV.

The IshMani angle, Raman's strike first thought process, a child abuser claiming custody, and now this "let's play fake house for Ruhi even if we both know we won't be together bc of our self percieved notions and inability to talk" all lack solid build up. They were in a rush for something or another & like the prime time parallel of women that they just threw these vital plot points into the mix without actually building them up...hence the giant disconnect with honestly everything 😆



I think that's where my interest drained...

Even thought this show is pretty dumb since October 2014, the current shit is a whole new level & I lost my connectivity completely with this..

Even KP & DT's acting is not pulling me to this show anymore...

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