Why are IshRa having a baby?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Don't get me wrong by the title, but ever since I've read the spoiler doing the rounds about Shagun being the surrogate for Ishita & Raman, I cannot stop wondering as to why are IshRa even exploring the option of their baby, or rather why are the CVs exploring the option of IshRa's kid?

There could be 2 different reasons:
  1. They want IshRa to have their own biological child, someone they can claim born out of their love.
  2. They want Ishita to experience motherhood in all its physical and emotional sense, and Raman to give her this gift of motherhood.
If it is option 1, surrogacy as an option is fine. However, if it is option 2, which I remember WAS Raman's viewpoint when he gifted her that medical report on their anniversary, then surrogacy itself is not an option, let alone Shagun being there to help. Because Ishita will neither be able to explore those 9 months, nor give birth to the new-born through her own body.

Lets assume its reason 1 - They want Ishita & Raman to have their own biological child. Fair enough, every couple wants that at some point in their life. But if that indeed is the case, why Shagun?

Leave aside Shagun being a shallow woman who left her husband and a 6 months old daughter for the riches, poisoned her son against his father every chance she got, and even tried to use her son's mental condition to her gain. Let us assume she was good at heart, was as saintly as she's shown to be today.

My question is, even if Shagun is the ideal woman out there, how can a wife tolerate her husband's ex-wife bearing her own child? The ex-wife is someone who her husband was close with - physically, mentally and emotionally. This is a huge blow not only to the husband-wife relationship, but also to an insecure woman who thought she's found her destination, and to the broken man whose nighmares of his previous wife were replaced by sunshine. Just the thought of her bearing the child is sickening enough, irrespective of her good / bad traits.

In one of the interviews, DT & Anju Mahendru said that the reason why women connected with this show was because of Ishita's condition. Isn't this plot mocking Ishita & all her struggles, along with Raman's reason & desire of having a kid with her. I understand the TRP audience loves such intense dramatic, improbable tracks. RSA said in one of his interview that this is own of the most progressive shows that's ever produced. But, is it? Progressive is not just tackling infertility & surrogacy at the face of it. What about the emotional consequences of all these issues?

The key binding element of this show, which attracted viewers, is the baseline story - of a scorned, divorced man with a li'l child unable to take of his kid, a woman who cannot bear a child, and a child who has never known parental love playing the cupid for the other two.

While everyone is looking forward to Ishita's pregnancy and IshRa's kid, this is one of the worst ways this is being considered. I'd rather Ishita remain infertile throughout her life, and remain a mother to Adi & Ruhi. This could have been the most beautiful track to this story, considering it sits at the crux of one of the protagonists, or it can go completely wrong.

So the question is, Should IshRa have a baby for Ishita to experience the joy of giving birth for the first time in her life? Or for Shagun to experience the joy of giving birth for the third time in her life?

Sorry about the long rant and harsh words, but needed to get it out of my system. Would love to hear everyone's views on this 😊

Disclaimer: I'm not against surrogacy as an option at all. In fact, I'm a huge fan of advancements in this area, medical as well as societal. However, just the idea of someone's ex-wife carrying his current wife (& soulmate)'s child is abhorrent.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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U have said everything very clearly.. If that spoiler is true then its nail in the coffin for our show.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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There's nothing more I can add to what you said. I would say exactly the same in maybe different words.

Ishita and Raman want to have another baby to experience the phase and not just because they want their own flesh. If that is also the case why choose Shagun for it? It's not acceptable for many reasons. Firstly that woman is the man's ex wife. She's not trust worthy and cheated him, abandoned his kids, harmed them all. And to top it all she's already the biological mother to Adi and Ruhi as well.

Why would you take the story ahead in a way where she's a mother to the third child also and Ishita is still insecure about the fact that Shagun birthed the child and not she herself. So what is the point of this track. We already have 2 children that are shared, why a third to add there.

This is plain disgusting, nauseating and waste of an entire year and a half of the show, that promised different.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Excellent points dear YHM Cvs are crazy about shagun for this one characters they will cross all limits. Ishita should get pregnant and enjoy all stage of pregnancy than only this track worth to watch not turn shagun to surrougate mother this is totally unacceptable
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Posted: 10 years ago
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This is what i was thinking..whats the need to let shagun bear their child?? And i want to see ishita's pregnancy track not shagun's
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Posted: 10 years ago
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IDK what the CVs are thinking but IshRa wanted to have a baby so Ishita can experience motherhood and the process of giving birth. But Shagun being a surrogate mother totally contradicts that notion. So if Shagun becomes the surrogate mother, then there is no use for an IshRa baby, at all.
I hope CVs... The very creators of show, remember that and the underlining concept of YHM. which is nurture Vs nature.. IshRa wanting to have a baby through Shagun just doesn't make sense and leans towards nature than nurture... Which goes against the basic element of YHM.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Bang on post!! I agree with everything what u have said!! If its surrogacy how on earth ishita will experience motherhood which raman wants to gift her so surrogacy as an option is clearly rulled out!! Cvs are very inconsiderate with ishita at times first they show her accepting a bitter truth of her life and moving on in life with raman and his/ their kids then they give her hope that she can conceive and again they bring in her husband's x to give her her own child i cant even imagine what ishita is and will go through!! I feel for ishita just to establish their favourite character shagun and validate her presence in the show they are making the most selfless and pure soul on the show suffer and go through emotional turmoil!! Also if they go for surrogacy the whole baby talks and raman's desire of wanting ishita to experience motherhood is void ab initio!! I am also not againdt surrogacy but that option is not needed to be explored in this show period!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wonderfully put!

There are many routes they could go, and I don't understand the need to include Shagun here.

Shagun is a part of this story & an actually reformed Shagun is pretty revolutionary for desi TV. However, just because she is reformed does not absolve her of her past discretions. She time & time proved she simply birthed Adi & Ruhi, but not mothered them. It is insulting to think of her bearing Ishita & Raman's child, especially when we have been hearing how Raman wants Ishita to experience motherhood.

I understand drama is needed in shows, but there should be some respect to the characters & more so the real issues they are using. I don't buy creative liberties when it insults the very core principles of not just the original premise of the show but of reality.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Awesomely put, everyone! 👏

Will post individual replies shortly.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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In simple words it's nothing but to put Shagun in the limelight. Bus. No need to search for any logical explanation
Bang on posts.

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