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Posted: 10 years ago

#41

well, I stopped giving a shit about this show long time ago. I don't watch it and neither do I read the updates or follow discussions on here. However my heart dropped when I read the spoiler this morning. it is just so, so disappointing to see what the CV's have done to this show. I'm now convinced that it is not about trps but shock value. the more absurd things they write, the more shocked people would be. otherwise, why they have always choose the worst possible thing to write? forget about logic, the post leap storyline is j disgusting. there are other ways to take the story forward after the leap but they chose this route?

I don't even care anymore but just at loss of words right now.

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shadeslayer

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Posted: 10 years ago

#42

Apt title Gan. Disgusting is the word right now. I have seen many cancer patients due to the field I work in, all of them want to spend as much time as possible with their families. And if it's TB, its an insult to the medical profession to say that it is incurable after so many medical advances done in the field.

We viewers just wasted 1.5 yrs waiting for a mohabbatein track to start which is over before it can even begin. What is the point of even watching it if Raman has spent most of his life with shaggs? Whether out of responsibility, for children or whatever. What was the point of feeding the viewers crap about a different show? When in reality the same shit is being shown? I think each one of us on this forum can write the script for an entire year before and after the leap. I guess that is what the CVs wanted- To not write for at least a year- They can take a long break since the script is ready from being used and reused a million times in the past decade.

It is not really the fault of the creatives, writers, BT or EK. It is the viewers fault for expecting a different show. For falling into the same trap again. I think the biggest insult here is to the characters of Raman and Ishita- or to any person in reality who has undergone betrayal in marriage or is infertile. They wanna show Raman staying with the infidel who made his life hell- who filled his son with soo much poison that he wanted to kill himself, who left her kids to die. They want to show Ishita with the spineless man who still till date has the balls to tell her that since she is infertile she cannot understand the pain of losing a child. What an insult to all those women who have faced this shit in real life.

You know what would be mature? A couple trying to fight through a disease like cancer together. Not the same sacrificial shit being dissed out. I am thoroughly disappointed in myself as an intelligent viewer to not heed EKs words wen she said she does not make shows for intelligent viewers.

@Krishy- Bang on to everything you have said girl!!! Nothings left. Marriage and relationship have no value in telly world. The sanctity of marriage has been made the biggest joke by YHM. The show that promised to deal with mature concepts and issues has in the past 6 months made a mockery of every such concept that they brought up. Every Profession was mocked, none spared. Now its the turn of the sanctity of an institution like marriage. Sad that so much talent is being wasted coz the creatives are not creative enough or are just lazy and are not in the mood to actually use their brains and "Write"- the very thing they are supposed to be paid to do. #RIPYHM

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-K.13-

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Posted: 10 years ago

#43

Originally posted by: pomegranate
well, I stopped giving a shit about this show long time ago. I don't watch it and neither do I read the updates or follow discussions on here. However my heart dropped when I read the spoiler this morning. it is just so, so disappointing to see what the CV's have done to this show. I'm now convinced that it is not about trps but shock value. the more absurd things they write, the more shocked people would be. otherwise, why they have always choose the worst possible thing to write? forget about logic, the post leap storyline is j disgusting. there are other ways to take the story forward after the leap but they chose this route?
I don't even care anymore but just at loss of words right now.

Oh it's bloody sadistic. She knows what's leaps do to shows thanks to 100s of her own and the rest currently on SP...but who cares about showing something mature - like if Ishita did get cancer...why can't they fight it like a normal couple?

And now she is on vacay smoozing the star of her "new mature" show for 11:30.

EK is no doubt a brilliant businesswoman but this is bloody sadistic. If a show is #2 with the half a** crap they show - why ruin it? Just keep half a**ing it and keep the lead couple aka the only redeeming grace of your show together. And if you want to split them up for an epic reunion ---> don't give their bloody exes a 2nd chance - especially those exes who cheat or ditch & taunt you for being infertile.

Even during the worst of this show - we tried to find the good. We complained but it's bc we knew no one would listen. We complained to each other bc at least for me, none of the people I know would watch this.

I just have so much steam to blow off from 4 months of hellish studying. I can't believe there used to be a day I would watch this monstrosity 2x.

Again I'm sorry for ranting/blabbering, Gan. It's just been a long long long long day. I wanted to enjoy the few moments of niceness in this stupid Subbu track but I can't even do that now.

The only thing good so far from this is that I got to virtually meet all you lovely ladies! 🤗

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Nisha

@Nichuss

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Posted: 10 years ago

#44

even i m done with Yhm...

watched n handled all ths subbu shit track... only because...

ishra was together first time and s solving... i was waiting to know

y subbu was doin this pshyco revenge... even thou its goin to comic

at end... but the TB news... all tuk away my intrest... checked wu

and i found it best day for quitting yhm...

now wait for 11pm can b axed for me... :P

unless this leap news pulled off or ... ishra separation s pulled off i

dont find anything to watch yhm...

may b in future... if some epsd luk gud i may watch...

but currently its a Good BYe to YHm

#Rip Yhm

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pomegranate

@pomegranate

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Posted: 10 years ago

#45

Originally posted by: -K.13-

Haha thanks. After my test I was just so brain dead & I logged in here so I could laugh at the stupid Subbu shit, and saw this nonsense.

I hope all the actors & "creatives" & SP love rolling in the shit ton of cash they make spreading bakwaas. I would feel for the actors but at the end of the day - they may half heartedly fight it...but they'll stay bc it's good money & fame.

I respect professionalism of the stars for making stupid look good & relatable, but now they are just doing it as a stepping stone. I don't mean to sound spiteful, but none of them care bc they need this job & role to push forward. They don't respect themselves & their talent enough to quit bc to quit an EK soap at it's peak may be career suicide? That's why I liked Gauri Pradhan who quit MATSH, another EK show, bc here character had nothing. Unfortunately it takes years of establishing yourself to have that respect for your talent & character.

Idk money talks, and beats everything else.

obviously I don't know anything but ekta comes across as arrogant and controlling, or perhaps media has painted that image. although I don't think she is shitty enough to hold back actors or sabotage their careers if they leave her hit show mid way. she has no right to throw a tantrum if actors leave due to creative differences. although I know that ronit roy and ankita lokhande were about to leave their respective shows but ended up staying, which obviously means ekta convinced them to stay back-- so yes she does know how to negotiate with them.

but the reason why actors never leave is perhaps because they may be out of work for 3+ years after quitting. it's not like movies where hit actors get a new script soon after saying no to the previous one. this is the main reason why actors stick to their crappy shows. We take these soaps too seriously and waste our time by dissecting it as if it were real, but actors know how to disassociate. they do their jobs and the go home, which is why it is easier for them to stay on but I agree, they are disrespecting their talent and worth. especially karan who deserves so much more then this disaster but I guess even he realizes that if he leaves this show, he'll end up at another daily soap with a similar story. either way, he is stuck in a vicious cyle of mediocrity so might as well stay with balaji, the most respected production house.

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fugitives123

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Posted: 10 years ago

#46

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It is so unfortunate to see such an awesome serial like yhm turning into a nonsensical one just like the other crappy ones. Number 2 on TRP ratings and this is what they do to kill it. It had no saas-bahu sagas, samdhis became friends and faced problems together, the main leads progressed gradually from hating each other to liking and then loving each other. This serial has such a wonderful cast of supremely talented actors who won so many awards in last couple of years.

They had just confessed their love for each other and it was beautiful to watch. Why the hell would they want to ruin things by bringing in a leap when their relationship is just blooming.

I have liked serials like kitni mohabbat hai season 1& 2 and beintehaa even though they ended in 8 months or 1 year. I have also liked a balika vadhu for focusing on women's issues and coming out with a social message at the end of every episode. I watched that for 5 years and then quit when they lost their plot. I feel its better that they take a serial to its end after a year or two, instead of butchering it and making us leave with a bad taste in our mouth.

Subbu's entry and the horrible ongoing track just made my exit so much easier. I can't imagine two people who are together after suffering so much of humiliation at the hands of their exes, pair up with the same exes for reasons that are beyond human understanding. I hate that the cvs try to thrust the outcome of their illogical twisted brains onto intelligent viewers like us who have watched enough of serials to understand the shape size color and weight of the crap shoved in front of us.

They can do what they want to do...leap, no leap, sharam, ishbu, rona dhona...It doesn't affect me anymore as I have zero expectations. I was hoping for the big c and now i'm crossing it off as there is no point expecting anything out of this serial anymore. Around 460 episodes of ishraru scenes make good enough memories. And anyday, I'll be happy to watch old episodes again rather than the new crappy ones. Thank you for making me fall in love with you yhm. Now rest in peace.❤️

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-K.13-

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Posted: 10 years ago

#47

Originally posted by: pomegranate

obviously I don't know anything but ekta comes across as arrogant and controlling, or perhaps media has painted that image. although I don't think she is shitty enough to hold back actors or sabotage their careers if they leave her hit show mid way. she has no right to throw a tantrum if actors leave due to creative differences. although I know that ronit roy and ankita lokhande wore about to leave their respective shows but ended up staying, which obviously means ekta convinced them to stay back-- so yes she does know how to negotiate with them.

but the reason why actors never leave is perhaps because they may be out of work for 3+ years after quitting. it's not like movies where hit actors get a new script soon after saying no to the previous one. this is the main reason why actors stick to their crappy shows. We take these soaps too seriously and waste our time by dissecting it as if it were real, but actors know how to disassociate. they do their jobs and the go home, which is why it is easier for them to stay on but I agree, they are disrespecting their talent and worth. especially karan who deserves so much more then this disaster but I guess even he realizes that if he leaves this show, he'll end up at another daily soap with a similar story. either way, he is stuck in a vicious cyle of mediocrity so might as well stay with balaji, the most respected production house.

Oh I agree. As a person I know nothing of EK but she's a thorough businesswoman. Her main "flaw" - not actually wanting to try something new. These tracks are repeats from kkusum days.

I agree about KP & DT leaving, but at the end of the day acting isn't an art for them - it's a chore. That's why I do respect their ability to make shitty tracks looks good, but the fact they have such little voice is a shame. And what makes it worse is they are expected to interview from their dumb character's POV.

It's just the entire desi TV industry & its "target" viewers are stuck in the stone ages from my outsider perspective. I've watched a lot of shows on & off bc my parents watch at home to try to stay "connected" to India. But at the end of the day, it's the viewers who keep watching the same track/new face, and makers who don't have the the guts to try something fully new. And once that novelty runs out - no one wants to give up the money and do their product a service and end it.

The television isn't an idiot box and shouldn't continue to be one. 🤢

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pomegranate

@pomegranate

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Posted: 10 years ago

#48

Originally posted by: -K.13-

Oh I agree. As a person I know nothing of EK but she's a thorough businesswoman. Her main "flaw" - not actually wanting to try something new. These tracks are repeats from kkusum days.

I agree about KP & DT leaving, but at the end of the day acting isn't an art for them - it's a chore. That's why I do respect their ability to make shitty tracks looks good, but the fact they have such little voice is a shame. And what makes it worse is they are expected to interview from their dumb character's POV.

It's just the entire desi TV industry & its "target" viewers are stuck in the stone ages from my outsider perspective. I've watched a lot of shows on & off bc my parents watch at home to try to stay "connected" to India. But at the end of the day, it's the viewers who keep watching the same track/new face, and makers who don't have the the guts to try something fully new. And once that novelty runs out - no one wants to give up the money and do their product a service and end it.

The television isn't an idiot box and shouldn't continue to be one. 🤢

really, we can't blame Cv's because they show what works and unfortunately, TRP aunty's love such crap so they will show it. eventually trp's will decrease, ekta will shut shop and start a new show. rinse and repeat. I just can't imagine this show being a creative satisfaction for DT and KP, just a way for them to earn good money.

anyways, I purchased a new book today so I will start reading now. no point in ranting about something I have no control over.

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Aani

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Posted: 10 years ago

#49

Originally posted by: -Gan-

So Aani you mean to say it's all about Raman's resurrection ? at the cost of what? That's my kostin. I didnt sign up for just Ishita or Raman ..their journey together was what attracted me to this serial...their chemistry...his biting tongue was always balanced by her replies...I would love to see old Raman as the alpha male back ..we have complained so much about it...but at the cost of going back to the exes , to nullify the journey till now...that is not resuscitation to me rather taking a different path altogether...something that doesn't gel with me. I have given up watching this show religiously long time back...the thing that didnt let me go was Ishra story, Divan chemistry and their acting...2 of 3 will be gone...I dont know how big a leap we're talking about...If it's more that few years with Ruhi in older avatar...that is another blow ...so if anything my hope is something that needs resuscitation...its at zero now.

No, no that isnt what I am saying, I am just saying having watched enough shows by now that I know the drill - I am not saying the leap is happening for Raman but that his character will be the one that would be reworked again and he would be again the jaded man he was when the show began - the pre Ishita post Shagun era, cause that is what always happens - post leap which has a seperation of the leads the hero becomes a ruthless, cold hearted man disillusioned with love and cynical to the boot...which Raman was when the show began.

I am as much against the leap as everyone else, let me make that clear, I am not looking forward to it as well, I just dont know if all these protests of ours would make any difference frankly, thats all I am saying.

The thing is thats what writers and channels do when they think they need to reinvent the show or make it more exciting, when they feel a point of saturation has been reached, Sonali Jaffar the writer herself gave an IV a couple of months ago where she said she doesnt know how to take the story forward once the confession is done...which is why we saw it got delayed so, so very much. Raman had tried to leave Ishita and go to Singapore way back in December but the confession didnt happen until May, which they shot on the last day of April - they dilly-dallied for 5 pain-staking months to make these two say three simple words - I love you and frankly we werent even happy with the way it happened when it did entirely, thanks to the get out of my home drama that had taken place just a few episodes back which had no resolution...

I am not saying they dont have a scope for a story they do - there' ample scope for it...but the point is are our CVs willing to explore it?

If the spoiler we have learned off is true then its gonna be a cliche predictable track where Ishita and Raman will finally consummate before the leap and that too because she would finally lose her inhibitions and shyness and would make the move making it more than clear she wants to make love to him just because she would think these may be her final days and before that happens she wants them to take this final step and of course whatever it is she has - cancer or tuberclosis, regardless of it and its treatment, she would get pregnant even if she has slept with Raman only once and this when we know that this woman has fertility issues thanks to her blocked fallopian tubes, for which she has not undergone any treatment but of course miracles happen and what not when Indian shows and especially EK shows are concerned - the hero and heroine are so incredibly fertile that once is enough for them...which it shouldnt have to be particularly in this case, for this show. They can have quite a number of storylines - IshRa honeymoon, their struggle to have a baby, once Ishita finally gets pregnant, if she does...Adi and Ruhi' insecurity can also come into play, since this could possibly be the biggest shift in their lives - the accomadation of a new baby, not to mention the cliche drama of what now - once Ishita has a biological child of her own there can be the quintessential question of how would that affect her mothering Ruhi and Adi, since now she isnt a mother just thanks to them and also Adi' growing pains problems, you know parenting a teenage son is not exactly a walk through the garden. Not to mention there' a whole host of other things that can also be played - like their career tracks for IshRa, there are so many characters in the Iyer Bhalla clan who can also provide side tracks - I am not saying that the leap is the only solution - rather its one which can be avoided, the question is will our channel and the ph be willing to be rational and think?

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