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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -II-

Thank you for the post, Gan. You've expressed it so well about what was missing in the scene from Ishita's side. Feels good to know I am not the only one feeling this way about IshRa. In fact I have been feeling this way ever since Raman's return from the US.

I can't quite place my finger on what exactly is amiss, whether its their chemistry, or the lackluster scenes being written. Both KP and DT are brilliant actors, and I love both Raman & Ishita equally, and always enjoyed their combustible chemistry..of course, to be completely honest, I am able to relate more to Raman than Ishita, but I blame it on the makers for portraying Ishita as a know-it-all, do-it-all super-bahu. Well she can be all that, along with showing some sense of priority towards Raman sometimes, can't she?

CVs need to be careful while writing scenes, and try to balance it well. Much as I hate to say it, but right now it appears as if only Raman is putting in all the efforts to progress their relationship to the next level, to spend some alone moments with wife..booking a hotel room, writing poems, decorating the room, etc.

By bringing in comedy in romantic scenes they are not only diluting the essence of IshRa, but are showing the couple as rather shallow and lackluster Where is the passion, the intimacy, the eagerness, the intensity in their relationship?


Lovely post !

@bold that is the crux of what's lacking in YHM for me .. I complained about this the other day too.. That the writing lacks a balance as far as the leads are concerned ... While they painstakingly took months to delve into Raman's past, his insecurities and his healing... Nothing was done as far as Ishita is concerned though she has been through some equally scarring past.. I could relate to more normal, impulsive and not so perfect Ishita than this super bahu they are trying to portray her as...

@red .. They are least in the creatives' mind these days.. It's all about crass comedy or crappy melodrama these days
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Posted: 10 years ago
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So on point Gan!! I for the first time did not like their dance!! There was no chamistry there!! I would have been ok if they wouldnt have shown it considering dt cant dance. raman could have danced alone if at all dance was required and Ishita could have been included for some concluding movements that would have been more sensible!!
Ishita is bit nervous though she is ready to take it forward. the water scene and her sweating scene was symbolic enough and raman did notice that!! She also was trying to say something like ha raman but...when he stopped her and mouthed some heavy duty dialogue and thats very natural for her to feel that way she needs time which was evident.. i guess now is not the right time; when they intend to show the consumation they will adress this issue hopefully in much more sensible way now cvs are more focusing on Adi's realisation track and i hope they handle it well!! Adi needs this jhatka which will shake him from inside and push him to think about his mom and accepting ishita as his mother!! The family has to complete if u observed yesterday adi called raman Papa which i guess was shown for the first time i m not sure though but this circle has to complete then only they will focus on her insecurities
Currently she is fighting within..she is not vocalising it bc she knows he is excited to take it forward and she doesnt want to disaapoint him by asking more time so she is just going with the flow may be she is thinking that his advances would help her in a positive way in order to shed her nervousness and probably when the actual thing happens she would give in to his desires which are currently overpowering so she is allowing him to do it for them both.. I think thats very human at times we allow others to decide for ourselves when we r not in position to do for our own and thats what ishita is doing currently i guess!! And she trusts raman more than herself and he is also the experienced one among the two so she is just leaning in and allowing him to take the lead!!
I dnt kno if that made any sense 😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Badtameez_Dil

Gan Ur not damper...when i saw yest SBB seq of the song i had samething in mind...even wrote about wished cv's would have realized this...IshRa dance sequences were always a highlight to watch out but today it wasnt as per the level which they had set for IshRa...

i so wish they had a slow song which would be easy to do & would looked better as dt wsnt able to dance due to her leg...
also it ws kind not well done apart from here & there some moments in the entire song...last song sequence it havnt went out of my head...
it ws that beautiful today it ws like haa bhai ho gaya khatam..looked more kind of forced performance...
some moments had to be there so it doesnt look totally vella types so they put down...
for Ishita's intimacy...the word inexperience & 3 I's as far i hardly see in the episode...they as u said is missing out...that thing which make & gives jittery feel is so missing in entire scene...
whole passion i want to see in Ishita after confession is just missing in the place...even if this IT has to be delayed that feeling of found love is missing it place from Ishita's side...its seen here & there occasionally
where its seen its pleasing to watch...
i agree that subtlety is what missing its not comedy has to be turned into as see if progress to be shown that emotions also need to be changed..in some parts.nok-jhok looked bit out of place today which wasnt needed in the scene looked bit forced in the sequence rest i would say i enjoyed it...
poem part did wonders today...
some part where they enter in the room ws beautiful to watch.
also say i didnt even expected this to be shown...after building up on maharaja suite so
as fans im happy with what was shown too...
i kind expecting nothing from cv's when they have this Ott drama in there minds to show of shagun...




Tanvi .. The three ''I's that priya ray mentioned are categorized under a big I , as in INVISIBLE... Because if they want to delve in that.. Frankly they cvs have not delivered because I have seen nothing as such about Ishita .. We're reacting from our interpretation of her character sketch not because of CVs writing anything in that line these days.

I know I need to switch off brain and watch.. But I guess I forgot 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I am highly disappointed too. 😭
somehow I could not connect with Ishra at all throughout the dance. It was all so distant. 😕
coming to the suite sequnce, comedy has become too redundant in yhm nowadays. Too much of anything is very harmful, these kinda repetitive scenes prove that. Bored of these now, sorry to say.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dmug

So on point Gan!! I for the first time did not like their dance!! There was no chamistry there!! I would have been ok if they wouldnt have shown it considering dt cant dance. raman could have danced alone if at all dance was required and Ishita could have been included for some concluding movements that would have been more sensible!!
Ishita is bit nervous though she is ready to take it forward. the water scene and her sweating scene was symbolic enough and raman did notice that!! She also was trying to say something like ha raman but...when he stopped her and mouthed some heavy duty dialogue and thats very natural for her to feel that way she needs time which was evident.. i guess now is not the right time; when they intend to show the consumation they will adress this issue hopefully in much more sensible way now cvs are more focusing on Adi's realisation track and i hope they handle it well!! Adi needs this jhatka which will shake him from inside and push him to think about his mom and accepting ishita as his mother!! The family has to complete if u observed yesterday adi called raman Papa which i guess was shown for the first time i m not sure though but this circle has to complete then only they will focus on her insecurities
Currently she is fighting within..she is not vocalising it bc she knows he is excited to take it forward and she doesnt want to disaapoint him by asking more time so she is just going with the flow may be she is thinking that his advances would help her in a positive way in order to shed her nervousness and probably when the actual thing happens she would give in to his desires which are currently overpowering so she is allowing him to do it for them both.. I think thats very human at times we allow others to decide for ourselves when we r not in position to do for our own and thats what ishita is doing currently i guess!! And she trusts raman more than herself and he is also the experienced one among the two so she is just leaning in and allowing him to take the lead!!
I dnt kno if that made any sense 😕


Hi I agree with you probably she herself has not decide what do with the situation but still I want a monologue of her talking to herself that she is not sure about this but believes in Raman to take care of her that would help instead here it potraying her as she is insensitive to Raman love
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dmug

So on point Gan!! I for the first time did not like their dance!! There was no chamistry there!! I would have been ok if they wouldnt have shown it considering dt cant dance. raman could have danced alone if at all dance was required and Ishita could have been included for some concluding movements that would have been more sensible!!
Ishita is bit nervous though she is ready to take it forward. the water scene and her sweating scene was symbolic enough and raman did notice that!! She also was trying to say something like ha raman but...when he stopped her and mouthed some heavy duty dialogue and thats very natural for her to feel that way she needs time which was evident.. i guess now is not the right time; when they intend to show the consumation they will adress this issue hopefully in much more sensible way now cvs are more focusing on Adi's realisation track and i hope they handle it well!! Adi needs this jhatka which will shake him from inside and push him to think about his mom and accepting ishita as his mother!! The family has to complete if u observed yesterday adi called raman Papa which i guess was shown for the first time i m not sure though but this circle has to complete then only they will focus on her insecurities
Currently she is fighting within..she is not vocalising it bc she knows he is excited to take it forward and she doesnt want to disaapoint him by asking more time

so she is just going with the flow may be she is thinking that his advances would help her in a positive way in order to shed her nervousness and probably when the actual thing happens she would give in to his desires which are currently overpowering so she is allowing him to do it for them both.. I think thats very human at times we allow others to decide for ourselves when we r not in position to do for our own and thats what ishita is doing currently i guess!! And she trusts raman more than herself and he is also the experienced one among the two so she is just leaning in and allowing him to take the lead!!
I dnt kno if that made any sense 😕


You made sense completely... But my qualm is the creatives need to show that part of her side..somehow..I want them to show her 'fighting within' .. Through monologues or sisters' heart to heart.. Right now everything is left upto viewer interpretation ... That's where lies my disconnect.. I. Really was anticipating a track dedicated to Ishita's insecurities... But somehow now am losing hope that we'll ever see that... Hence the disappointment
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Posted: 10 years ago
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update page 1

Mind my translation, not very good at hindi. If anyone knows what ranjish means ill update the english translation.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: krishy13


In school we learned that humor is a mature psychological defense mechanism, but after watching this show...I greatly beg to differ! 😆

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Any hopes for a meaningful scene are slowly fading given the impending nautanki. There is a small chance we get something nice tomorrow before the kidnapping bomb hits...but who knows!


@ bold about 0.001% of me feels like maybe we may get a mature conversation on how Ishita's feeling about the whole SR. Other 99% of me thinks, they are going to get a call about how the children are missing.
Edited by ---CoCo--- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Gan-


Lovely post !

@bold that is the crux of what's lacking in YHM for me .. I complained about this the other day too.. That the writing lacks a balance as far as the leads are concerned ... While they painstakingly took months to delve into Raman's past, his insecurities and his healing... Nothing was done as far as Ishita is concerned though she has been through some equally scarring past.. I could relate to more normal, impulsive and not so perfect Ishita than this super bahu they are trying to portray her as...

@red .. They are least in the creatives' mind these days.. It's all about crass comedy or crappy melodrama these days


I agree, Gan. While they have beautifully conveyed Raman's perspective, the rejection he faced, his fears, his insecurities, and his healing so elaborately, where is Ishita's side of the story? How did she deal with her insecurities, how did she cope with all the rejections in her life? What is she going through after her beloved husband confessed his feelings, poured his heart out to her? Is she longing to spend some alone time with him? Is she nervous about their first night that her husband seems to be so excited about? Its easy for us to interpret Ishita's thoughts owing to her initial character sketch, but there has got to be some monologues or scenes reflecting her thoughts and feelings. I see no effort on the part of the CVs in conveying Ishita's inner turmoil.

I had hopes that the story may finally focus on Ishita's past and her journey when they re-introduced Subbu, but they conveniently rushed through it with just one mini-bench scene.

I have full faith in Ishita's love and loyalty towards Raman, but I am waiting for the day when Ishita would do something for Raman.. not for their kids or the family, but just him, something that conveys to him (and us) just how much she loves him and needs him, how important he is to her, and how much she wishes to spend time with him. I would love to see her pour her heart out to him some day, express what he means to her...Sigh!

Thank you for responding :)
Edited by -II- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Gan-



You made sense completely... But my qualm is the creatives need to show that part of her side..somehow..I want them to show her 'fighting within' .. Through monologues or sisters' heart to heart.. Right now everything is left upto viewer interpretation ... That's where lies my disconnect.. I. Really was anticipating a track dedicated to Ishita's insecurities... But somehow now am losing hope that we'll ever see that... Hence the disappointment



I agree with u that they need to focus on her insecurities through some meaningful scenes may be they are not doing it as they are planning to make it a proper track and focus on it in entirety so before that they are cleaning all the mess they have created till now!! That insecurity track will also lead to their baby just my thought not sure though!! And i seriously dnt feel ishita is insensetive towards his feelings she is just being indifferent bc she is not sure how to react she is afraid as well to take the lead what if she chickens out last moment that will leave both of them with sour taste so she is just going with the flow.. But i agree her internal conflict needs to reach the audiance else we are left to interprete on our own and that shows ishita in bad light!!

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