Marital Rape- Two sides to it

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Posted: 10 years ago
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First let me start by saying I am woman myself , but since they are bringing up the track, I just thought to get others opinion on my views.

I agree that rape is wrong, and the culprits should be hanged within a month of the crime being proved but when it comes to marital rape, I cant somehow justify the victim's innocence. The woman in me says its wrong, but the practical side of me wonders what leads to it.

In this case Ashok is shown to be a villian, so Mihika married him undress duress but since she is married him of her own free will or reasons I dont get it why she needs to keep coming up with excuses to avoid sex. Ashok is scared that if he divorces her she will take half of his hard earned wealth (they havent shown him doing illegal things, so I would say hard earned). So basically he is left in a loop, either he stays married to her gets no sex or divorces her and loses on wealth and ofcourse any chance of intimacy with her.

I read an article where it mentioned that women have somehow learned to use marital sex as a weapon or a gift in their marriage. They get upset with their husband, so they withhold intimacy, if they get happy they will shower him with love. If the husband starts withholding money when they get upset, then they will accuse him of abuse.

To me, if you went into a marriage willingly or unwillingly due to no fault of the partner, maybe under family pressure (like Ishra) you really should be doing whatever it takes to make the marriage a success. I have seen two cases in which the girls married nice guys under family pressure where their family hadnt approved of their previous boyfriends and then after marriage they would be really rude and not let the husbands touch them to the point where the marriages ended in divorce and to avoid telling the main reason why the marriages ended the girl's families made up stuff about the boys and their families. In both cases the girls ended up getting remarried to their boyfriends (one eloped, in the other the girls family caved in since they knew she would repeat the same behavior if they married her off to another guy). Poor husbands were labeled divorcees though they hadnt enjoyed a day of marital bliss. I really felt bad for the guys in those cases. Real life doesnt work like the movies where the girl realizes that her husband is so nice and forgets her Bf and accepts him.

In Mihika's case I think Ashok was nice to her until now, but there is no end to her stupidities. God knows what good was she thinking will come out of this. In Ashok's case this marriage was a dud from the beginning, he shouldnt have even bothered getting married to her. Now he will just have to go through the process of divorce without enjoying a day of marital bliss. Forcing himself on her was not the right decision either, but when you are thinking shit I am losing so much - my money, my name anyway what else is left to lose. In AsMi's case, I think Ashok lost more in this marriage. It was a bad deal for him. He should have realized divorce is inenvitable and should have just let her go.

Sorry for the rant, but the article got me thinking- about marital sex. If the man withholds its his fault, if the woman withholds somehow she is not blamed.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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My dear friend there can never be a justification for rape.Rape is Rape ,marital or otherwise. Its a violation of an individual's body ,spirit and mind..all the more inhuman when a man rapes his own wife..because isn't he the one person she is supposed to trust all her life? When a woman gets married she is not writing off her body spirit and mind to her husband..her body is her own..And as for those women who get married under family pressure and then refuses to play wife..I agree they have no right to spoil another persons life..if it is impossible to take the relationship forward the husband should get a divorce and not RAPE his wife..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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You know you dont even understand what a rape is!! Rape is forcing one self over another and if marriage gives you right over another's body then i am sorry my friend you dont even know what marriage iis!! Even if its two people in love and if one of them is not willing be it any reason for sex then too other cant force it!!! Marriage doesnt only involve sex... More than sex its emotional bonding ... In any case i hope you do read many of the registerd marrital rape stories.. And then you'll see wat's actually that!! And i must say its one of the most important amd critical topic that one needs awareness about specially in india as along with men women too are unaware of its dimensions
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Firstly, I would like to mention that I agree sexual intimacy is a need in any marriage, and manipulative women do use it to their advantage. But this does not give any man the right to violate a woman's, even his wife's privacy.
If there are differences in sexual preferences, he can opt for divorce. I did read about a law in which if there has been no intimacy for even 3 days post marriage, the man can ask for divorce and the court will consider waiving alimony off, suspecting infidelity on the wife's part. Read Times of India article here

But EK's shows need to have drama, logic can go out of the window. Already the men in our country are infected with peer pressure to prove they are men enough. Who has the guts to answer it to court, that why wasn't he able to please his wife to bed in 3 days? Better use force and settle matters behind closed doors.

And this track will encourage such thinking. And of course, the versatile Ekta maata is, she will make love bud in, weeks after this catastrophe. After being thoroughly impressed on how domestic sexual harassment issue was handled, I am sacred of how this will be treated, fearing that most viewers are keen to see Love happen between this couple.

And demand attracts supply!!
Edited by NiharikaMishra - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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i'm sorry but why is everyone saying that mihika married ashok from her own free will? it's been brought up time and time again that she was blackmailed. It's not exactly free will there. I certainly cannot wait for the dissolution of Mihika and Ashok's marriage. It was on the wrong basis. There was nothing romantic or loving about their union.
As far as marital rape is concerned, the arguments being brought up were used in the Victorian era and early 1900s in the West! That is nearly a century ago! a woman's body is her own! just because you are married to someone, doesn't mean they own your body and may do whatever they please to it. This needs to be recognised!

As far as intimacy being used as a weapon is concerned, that is an example of when someone's relationship is unhealthy and toxic and they either need a councilor or a divorce. Just because someone uses marital rape as an excuse to entrap people, doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all. Marital rape doesn't have two sides, it has only one, and that is rape is wrong. No one has any right on our bodies except for ourselves.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shazam1

First let me start by saying I am woman myself , but since they are bringing up the track, I just thought to get others opinion on my views.

I agree that rape is wrong, and the culprits should be hanged within a month of the crime being proved but when it comes to marital rape, I cant somehow justify the victim's innocence. The woman in me says its wrong, but the practical side of me wonders what leads to it.

In this case Ashok is shown to be a villian, so Mihika married him undress duress but since she is married him of her own free will or reasons I dont get it why she needs to keep coming up with excuses to avoid sex. Ashok is scared that if he divorces her she will take half of his hard earned wealth (they havent shown him doing illegal things, so I would say hard earned). So basically he is left in a loop, either he stays married to her gets no sex or divorces her and loses on wealth and ofcourse any chance of intimacy with her.

I read an article where it mentioned that women have somehow learned to use marital sex as a weapon or a gift in their marriage. They get upset with their husband, so they withhold intimacy, if they get happy they will shower him with love. If the husband starts withholding money when they get upset, then they will accuse him of abuse.

To me, if you went into a marriage willingly or unwillingly due to no fault of the partner, maybe under family pressure (like Ishra) you really should be doing whatever it takes to make the marriage a success. I have seen two cases in which the girls married nice guys under family pressure where their family hadnt approved of their previous boyfriends and then after marriage they would be really rude and not let the husbands touch them to the point where the marriages ended in divorce and to avoid telling the main reason why the marriages ended the girl's families made up stuff about the boys and their families. In both cases the girls ended up getting remarried to their boyfriends (one eloped, in the other the girls family caved in since they knew she would repeat the same behavior if they married her off to another guy). Poor husbands were labeled divorcees though they hadnt enjoyed a day of marital bliss. I really felt bad for the guys in those cases. Real life doesnt work like the movies where the girl realizes that her husband is so nice and forgets her Bf and accepts him.

In Mihika's case I think Ashok was nice to her until now, but there is no end to her stupidities. God knows what good was she thinking will come out of this. In Ashok's case this marriage was a dud from the beginning, he shouldnt have even bothered getting married to her. Now he will just have to go through the process of divorce without enjoying a day of marital bliss. Forcing himself on her was not the right decision either, but when you are thinking shit I am losing so much - my money, my name anyway what else is left to lose. In AsMi's case, I think Ashok lost more in this marriage. It was a bad deal for him. He should have realized divorce is inenvitable and should have just let her go.

Sorry for the rant, but the article got me thinking- about marital sex. If the man withholds its his fault, if the woman withholds somehow she is not blamed.

THAT IS THE BIGGEST INSULT TO A WOMAN. DO YOU KNOW WHAT RAPE IS!!!?!?!?!?
married couple make love, have sex not RAPE!
When it is forced is not love or sex. its plain RAPE!
if your wife is not giving it to you or your husband is not giving it to you ,... go get marriage counseling, see a therapist, get a divorce DO NOT RAPE! she is a woman not an object.
I am sorry but your post is to be hated! women like you encourage men to treat them like objects or garbage and its women like you who encourage men to RAPE.
disgusting!!! shame on you
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Posted: 10 years ago
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"First let me start by saying I'm a woman myself" -> well, isn't that a shame that you hold such beliefs despite being a woman yourself. Marital Rape, stranger rape, rape by a relative - doesn't matter who does it, it's still rape. Since when did marrying someone mean that you lose all the rights to your body? Absolutely ridiculous to think that!


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Posted: 10 years ago
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I wanted to sit here and methodically dissect and dismantle your post, I really did, but honestly I am too sickened by your views to even try.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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As individuals whether you are a man or woman you are the one who own your own body and if you dont give consent for another person to touch you it is a violation of your and your private sphere.

Just because you are married you dont hand over the right to your body to the person you are married to and in this way it is a violation of another persons rights. whether it can be applied to reality is a question of the genders recognizing and accepting a no is no and that you are the only who is in charge of your own body

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Edited by Inisabus - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Rape is a rape even in martial state too .
No one has the rights to force them upon each other .
Bottom line ashok crossed his limits that's it .
But Ekta shows u can never find logic Mihu married him willingly to save mihir but that doesn't mean ashok can force her .
If he tries to mend his ways like easing on her and trying to be friends then change himself for good then mihika would have thought about martial thing but here ashok not changed and mihika lied about preggy making him furious .
A man ego is too bad .
But showing Mihu as meak was bakwas ( her entry was big dhamaka she was a fire brand did the creative writer forgot or has lost it )
They ruined mihika character completely .
Anyways bottom line is hubby can't force neither wife can't they have to be mutual understanding first to get into deed.
Edited by rockstar29 - 10 years ago

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