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Posted: 10 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: maaloo

Gan, today I loved your opening line a lot.. "An episode about differing perspectives"..

I would like to extend it and say that its a story about differing perspectives...

The obvious one being.. how Ruhi looks at Ishima.. and how Adi reacts to her. Ruhi has seen Ishima's love and has been the recipient of it.. Adi knows her only as Ishita aunty, the evil stepmom .. he refuses to see any good in her 'cos his mom told him so..
Beautiful acting and beautiful words by Ruhi.. and Adi.. as usual is so totally "meh". Enough said about his acting and his character..

The other perspective.. amma's fear seeing Shagun and Adi with Raman.. and Ishita's strength in Raman and ability to see beyond Shagun and focus on Adi only because she wants to bring the happiness Raman was missing.. her motive is to keep raman happy and amma's is to ensure that her daughter is happy. I hope soon Ishita see's Shagun's evil plan and gets up from her slumber.. People like Shagun are not to be ignored.. keep your friends close and your enemies closer.. they need to be watched over not ignored..

But today, the one that had me thinking the most was Ishita-Mihir's conversation. Again another perspective. Here is Mihir who's happily-ever-after is ruined by his Bhabhi's sister but still has no ill-feelings towards her.. he confides in her, he wants her help, he looks up to her and loves her for the person she is.. like Ishu said.. she is his bhabhi cum sister rolled into one. Bas ek dil ka rishta hai..

On the other hand, is Shagun who's happily-ever-after is also ruined and she holds her ex-husband's wife to be responsible for all the bad things happening in her life. doesnt see beyond her nose and lives in a make-believe world egged on by her mom and help by her son. And the funny thing is Shagun and Mihir are siblings but still are so far apart in their outlook.. probably because Mihir was mentored by the Bhallas and consider them as family.. and Shagun was ofcourse raised by her mom with a feeling that she deserves everything that is best in life. Another contrast. Mihir has seen and been the recepient of Ishita's love and affection, Shagun's vision is always clouded by her selfishness.. bas.

Now that Raman knows what it is like to be with Adi, he is snatching at every little time he gets to be with Adi.. and this is the power Adi has over Raman. He thinks that he has his dad all wrapped around his finger..and like his mom he likes to keep him dangling.. All the supposed outburst by Raman is probably because of this. .. Raman knows what it is to have Adi in his life and like a child he doesnt want to lose him.. and hence throws his tantrum .. and shouts at Ishita.. without really seeing what Ishita is putting up with.. because he is blissfully unaware that Adi is playing games and that he has been mean with Ishita and Ruhi.

At this juncture, I think its important for Ishu to show Raman that his ex-wife and son are being manipulative.. and if that means a lil separation... (a day or two at the max) then I am for it. (God I cant believe that i just said that.. I am such an anti-separation type!!) I dont want Ishita to be taking everything thrown at her lying down.. Its nice to be patient and not lose cool but not to the extent that people wipe their feet on you and use you as the general punch-bag.

So.. yeah its all about differing perspectives..

And as usual, let me end my longish essay by saying: Please CVs.. close this Shagun/Adi chapter.. pretty please.. this track has run well past its expiry date.. cant stand Shagun and Adi's smug faces.. 😡







wonderful post Malu about perspectives...you laid them out very well...loved it! And I also agree with your sentiment about Ishita...about time she stood up for herself and her dignity as a woman...

@red we've been chaning this everyday...but I guess Anita ia well liked
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: stylish_VJ

The scene of the day <3

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFRs1POvirM[/YOUTUBE]



thanks for sharing the best scene today. Ruhanika rocks!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: usaonly

Gan lovely post today. The child will grow up to the right direction is on the upbringing of their parents. Ruhi is lucky to grow up under beautiful guidance of her Ishima that wise she can see the differnt of the right and the wrong part. Children heart are so pure she know and can feel who has really love and care for them.I think no one can make Ruhi change her mind that her Ishima is the best not Shagun her real mom who never care for her.



thank you Jum!
so true what you wrote
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thank you for the appreciation and may I add that I have been a loyal albeit silent follower of your thread for a long time.It is my go to place for inspiration,and solace.Given the current track,it is the latter that I am in need of,in large dollops:)

No,I am not one of the creatives:)I suppose this was my way of justifying to myself why I still watch the show.I suspect it is because of the hidden brilliance amidst all the muck.And partly due to my being able to understand my parents and my own relationship a bit better. They both came from fairly large extended families,whereas I am an only child.In essence,they were Raman and Ishita,believing in unconditional love and support for their siblings.I grew up away from my uncles and aunts,and my world view of family was fairly narrow,limited to my parents.I would find the occasions we would visit our home town Kolkata quite trying,during my teenage years.My parents became unrecognizable to me,so jubilant were they in reconnecting with their brothers and sisters,nephews and nieces.What I now realise is that I was questioning their attachment to people who were virtual strangers to me.Mixed in with the natural insecurity of a rather timid,introspective only child of 'losing' her family,was the recognition that their relatives did not share this exuberance.My parents remembered my cousins birthdays effortlessly,yet no one seemed to know mine.Years later,the sad truth hit me.It was never really about me.There was no reciprocity for my parents affection,beyond the superficial.Family was the whole paragraph,chapter and book for my parents.To their siblings,they were a mere foot note.

Yet like Raman and Ishita,I will always root for my parents time and again.They are my protagonists. I received love beyond imagination from them.In a culture which espouses the supremacy of the male,they chose not to have another child.I am female.Money was tight when I was born,yet they got a cake from a posh Kolkata bakery(Flury's) when I was one and threw a birthday party.Not big by today's standards,but none of my other female cousins were celebrated this way.They were loved begrudgingly by their parents,and I wholeheartedly by mine.I was the only dusky female cousin.A lot of insensitive remarks and taunts were hurled at me.None of them ever came from my parents. I was never in danger of losing their love,for they had so much to give.Just like Raman and Ishita.Deluded by their world-view that family equals love,or simply choosing to rise above the pettiness which we misguidedly term being worldly-wise?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: FantasiaNarnia

Thank you for the appreciation and may I add that I have been a loyal albeit silent follower of your thread for a long time.It is my go to place for inspiration,and solace.Given the current track,it is the latter that I am in need of,in large dollops:)

No,I am not one of the creatives:)I suppose this was my way of justifying to myself why I still watch the show.I suspect it is because of the hidden brilliance amidst all the muck.And partly due to my being able to understand my parents and my own relationship a bit better. They both came from fairly large extended families,whereas I am an only child.In essence,they were Raman and Ishita,believing in unconditional love and support for their siblings.I grew up away from my uncles and aunts,and my world view of family was fairly narrow,limited to my parents.I would find the occasions we would visit our home town Kolkata quite trying,during my teenage years.My parents became unrecognizable to me,so jubilant were they in reconnecting with their brothers and sisters,nephews and nieces.What I now realise is that I was questioning their attachment to people who were virtual strangers to me.Mixed in with the natural insecurity of a rather timid,introspective only child of 'losing' her family,was the recognition that their relatives did not share this exuberance.My parents remembered my cousins birthdays effortlessly,yet no one seemed to know mine.Years later,the sad truth hit me.It was never really about me.There was no reciprocity for my parents affection,beyond the superficial.Family was the whole paragraph,chapter and book for my parents.To their siblings,they were a mere foot note.

Yet like Raman and Ishita,I will always root for my parents time and again.They are my protagonists. I received love beyond imagination from them.In a culture which espouses the supremacy of the male,they chose not to have another child.I am female.Money was tight when I was born,yet they got a cake from a posh Kolkata bakery(Flury's) when I was one and threw a birthday party.Not big by today's standards,but none of my other female cousins were celebrated this way.They were loved begrudgingly by their parents,and I wholeheartedly by mine.I was the only dusky female cousin.A lot of insensitive remarks and taunts were hurled at me.None of them ever came from my parents. I was never in danger of losing their love,for they had so much to give.Just like Raman and Ishita.Deluded by their world-view that family equals love,or simply choosing to rise above the pettiness which we misguidedly term being worldly-wise?



aww that's so heart-touching..probably something my child goes through during our visits to India...I'm from kolkata too and I visit Flury's everytime for breakfast once.

Your write up reminded me of Jhumpa Lahiri's "Namesake" for the NRI family visiting home scenario.

What you said is unfortunate but sometimes true...love and affection is never reciprocated at an equal proportion..because the individuals even if they share the genepool are as unique as they come...so their capabilities vary...like Ruhi, Adi or Shagun-Mihir...there are always some in every family who are givers and others are receivers...and that's how life is. kinda sad but reality.

the best part in your case is you got to experience the unconditional love of your wonderful parents...who have given you the best role models to follow.

thank you for sharing your personal experience and how you relate with yhm based on your personal experience.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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will be back post dinner 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: RomComFan



I feel like with ISHRA what we have seen thsu far in terms of their love story after they relaized their love is their honeymoon phase. Puting aside their insecurites for now, they have both been so enamoured with eachother and their love that they have been running round like giiddy teenagers (quite litereally) basking in that first glow. There have been grand declarations and moments of utter sweetness and countless words that declare their love. But these grand words are now being put to the test. Previously, when their relationship was tested they were still in an 'arrangement' for Ruhi, or they were friends. This is the first big hurdle,the first big test for their love. And honestly I am so glad it is coming in the way way of SHADHI- because if they can come through this trial stronger (which they will) they can get through any test off their love, no doubt about that.

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I am way too invested in this show...🤢

@least I am not alone... right ?



@RomComFan - I totally agree with you! This honeymoon phase has been adorable, filled with haddis, and a little unsettling because everyone regularly kept anticipating the next big toofan in our sweet love birds lives! I just hope that once they pass the first major hurdle of their love - we can continue the flirty, honeymoon phase without the constant dread of drama even if it's just for a few days!

Your next point about how it's nice that Shagun/Adi are the first big hurdles in their lives is on point! When they overcome the Shagun/Adi scheming, they will truly be each others. 👏

This track has the potential for a lot...
  • Raman realizing that yes he fell in love with Ishita's goodness but he and everyone else can't inadvertently take advantage of that.
  • Ishita truly becoming JKR for her relationship with Raman. So far we have seen Ishita become JKR in front of Shagun for primarily Ruhi and Raman to a slightly lesser extent (pre-accident track @ the spa & during the Ruhi - abortion track). Not only should she stand up for her rights in the Bhalla household through a mini-separation, but she should show Shagun her place with the resolution of the track.
  • Related to the above point - I cannot wait to see them finally put Shagun in her place. She may be an airhead who is ridiculously narcissistic, but when she really really schemes - she does a good job coming out "clean." The best example is the accident track - she so cleverly hid behind Adi and to some degree elicited some sympathy because she was still grey. However, here the CVs have made her totally negative so hopefully we see some justice being served.
  • After Raman makes the ultimate sacrifice of giving up Adi for Ishita, the CVs, if they want, could lay the groundwork for addressing Ishita's insecurities of being infertile and her desire to try to possibly explore the possibility of becoming pregnant via medical techniques.
  • Currently, Adi seems unredeemable, so I will be interested to see how the CVs continue to incorporate him in the series. Even when Raman gives up Adi at the end of this, Adi will always be his son and I don't think it's possible for him to completely turn his back on his child, no matter how misguided and "evil" they are.
In response to your last lines - you are not alone in being over invested in this show! I've been watching for so long and it's hard to stop. Yes there are episodes I skip because I can't tolerate excessive drama, but I currently have no reason to stop the show all together! ❤️

So far the only thing that's putting my mood down a bit is how quickly Raman's chracter went back into angry & hurtful RKB mode (based off the precap & OLVs). It seems like in both this track & the Mani track there was a period of stagnation in the track where people got a bit annoyed with Ishita's character and then suddenly emerged a hurtful RKB. I wish they had spent 1-2 days showing the build up to angry RKB and not do it so suddenly because in my opinion it is hard to relate to his character when things so suddenly escalate. Alas, I'm not the story maker and I guess the CVs want to speed up so they can show the actual drama of this track.

#hopefullyonly25moredays
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: krishy13


@RomComFan - I totally agree with you! This honeymoon phase has been adorable, filled with haddis, and a little unsettling because everyone regularly kept anticipating the next big toofan in our sweet love birds lives! I just hope that once they pass the first major hurdle of their love - we can continue the flirty, honeymoon phase without the constant dread of drama even if it's just for a few days!

Your next point about how it's nice that Shagun/Adi are the first big hurdles in their lives is on point! When they overcome the Shagun/Adi scheming, they will truly be each others. 👏

This track has the potential for a lot...
  • Raman realizing that yes he fell in love with Ishita's goodness but he and everyone else can't inadvertently take advantage of that.
  • Ishita truly becoming JKR for her relationship with Raman. So far we have seen Ishita become JKR in front of Shagun for primarily Ruhi and Raman to a slightly lesser extent (pre-accident track @ the spa & during the Ruhi - abortion track). Not only should she stand up for her rights in the Bhalla household through a mini-separation, but she should show Shagun her place with the resolution of the track.
  • Related to the above point - I cannot wait to see them finally put Shagun in her place. She may be an airhead who is ridiculously narcissistic, but when she really really schemes - she does a good job coming out "clean." The best example is the accident track - she so cleverly hid behind Adi and to some degree elicited some sympathy because she was still grey. However, here the CVs have made her totally negative so hopefully we see some justice being served.
  • After Raman makes the ultimate sacrifice of giving up Adi for Ishita, the CVs, if they want, could lay the groundwork for addressing Ishita's insecurities of being infertile and her desire to try to possibly explore the possibility of becoming pregnant via medical techniques.
  • Currently, Adi seems unredeemable, so I will be interested to see how the CVs continue to incorporate him in the series. Even when Raman gives up Adi at the end of this, Adi will always be his son and I don't think it's possible for him to completely turn his back on his child, no matter how misguided and "evil" they are.
In response to your last lines - you are not alone in being over invested in this show! I've been watching for so long and it's hard to stop. Yes there are episodes I skip because I can't tolerate excessive drama, but I currently have no reason to stop the show all together! ❤️

So far the only thing that's putting my mood down a bit is how quickly Raman's chracter went back into angry & hurtful RKB mode (based off the precap & OLVs). It seems like in both this track & the Mani track there was a period of stagnation in the track where people got a bit annoyed with Ishita's character and then suddenly emerged a hurtful RKB. I wish they had spent 1-2 days showing the build up to angry RKB and not do it so suddenly because in my opinion it is hard to relate to his character when things so suddenly escalate. Alas, I'm not the story maker and I guess the CVs want to speed up so they can show the actual drama of this track.

#hopefullyonly25moredays


I am sooo liking how you two are thinking😊 hopefully CVs are thinking in those lines as well. There are many potential tracks that can open up in the future, but what I'd like to see is Ishita's infertility track. They have time and again showed her being insecure abt this-inspite of Ruhi and her presence in her life.Now post Adi track, I won't be surprised if she feels even more inadequate and hurtful seeing Raman's pain. So yeah tackling this issue would be great-maybe another strong aspect of IshRa love story will be revealed to us❤️

As for Adi and Shagun-everyone seems to be in unison that Anita Hassanandani is not going anywhere-so there will be more of the crap coming along. A friend once told me parents of a child will always be connected to each other, no matter what, until the child is alive. I am not suggesting anything here:) just saying Raman Shagun unfortunately will have each other's presence in their lives. So useless drama ki kami nahi rahegi

@krishy13: 25 days seem waaay too long!!!!
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I was brought up in Southern Africa(Botswana),so the NRI visit reference is bang on:)And the Namesake is my favourite novel,as it resonated with
me.My reaction was "so there were others who went through this too?"The identity crisis,the feeling of being an outsider looking in on both cultures,the quirkiness of Bengali culture:)

I suspect that one day your child will be able to verbalise all this.When that happens,I am sure you will be as understanding as my father,who openly acknowledged in front of the usual Bengali majlis overseas that it was not easy for the next generation,as we had to grapple with one world inside our homes and another outside.This after I went through the usual rebellious teenage phase,including cutting my hair into spikes:))))))All I can say is,be gentle yet firm.They respect you when you respect them as human beings,and not just mini-extensions of yourself.

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