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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wonderful analysis! You said it so right that it is a struggle between Ishita's Raman and Shagun's Raman. I hope Ishita's Raman prevails.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Brilliant Post!! Raman is surely fighting the demons from his past which are clouding his present. Until and unless he faces these demons and fight them, he will be unable to see any clarity in the current situation. I agree that Mani is not the one to be concerned about at this point.. its him and his past! Beautifully written and wonderfully analysed! Nothing more to add. All the brilliant writers have already given their take and I agree with all!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: swathibalan

I agree.. Its a beautiful tale about relationships, Love, friendship(sirius), parent-child bond, Unrequited love(snape..) ... You name it you have it..just brilliant..
And the best thing it teaches, Love conquers all, Love makes you take the right choices in life.
You only gain by loving..
Just Love..❤️


Me too a huge fan of HP, Swathi😳 I can reread it any number of times and always find something new with it! The way she developed the characters is awesome! I love the plot and each and every character in it! And yes, the message about love was woven so beautifully into the plot.. right from the way Lily saved Harry before she was killed to the way Harry killed Voldemort.. the underlying theme is totally love.. Just love😳
Sorry for going off-topic doc!.. but couldn't resist!😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: cocololo123

Again I must say you have done wonders with your post. I couldn't agree more with you. Yesterdays episode was all about Raman's demons. This man fears love in general and I don't blame him at all because of his past. He knows he can trust Ishita but the fear of betrayal is there for Raman. I just hope he can conquer his fears and move forward with Ishita because Ishita will not hurt him because she knows what is like to have love reject you.


Thank you 😊. Exactly Ishita knows what rejection feels like, now only if these two idiots would just talk!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: swathibalan

Doc, I loved how you brilliantly summed up the turmoil that Raman's going through.

You have a way with words which brings out the point with a lot of clarity.

Beautifully and concisely written. And am at a loss of adjectives to describe it.

A sensitive and emotional man. A man who knew how to love and how to show it.

A man who worshipped his wife, pampered her, went beyond his limits just to see a smile on her face.

A betrayal totally changed him. But only for appearances sake

For the world he became a ruthless man, a go getter. From a man whose life was his family to a man who thought only of success and achievement, not for himself, but to prove the people, who betrayed him, wrong.

But in reality - he wanted to be loved. He wanted his family, his children and to be the One for his wife.

Ishita came to his life and the first thing she brought out was the considerate side of him. A man who placed family above everything. A small conversation overheard brought this change.

But living with her, the real Raman slowly started to peep out of the iron armor that the fake one had built.

A man who was ready to love again. He already was in love. He only didn't want to accept it, because of the fear of getting hurt

The Jealousy is because of the insecurity deeply seeded in him, that he may not be enough for her

A thought which was again impressed upon him by Shagun

He heard Ishita telling Mani -I love you and will leave my husband and child for you.

Yet even in his drunken stupor he knew.. She loves Ruhi, she loves his family. It was only himself that he was unsure of. Her love for him.

Even when he has a self talk, it's clear he can't let her go; because deep within his heart he knows that she will never betray him. She is not Shagun. But his fear and his past doesn't let that truth come to the fore.

His fear and insecurity is not letting him see all that she has done for him, which his heart knows.

All those moments where she has shown how much she cares for him, how much he matters to her.

Yesterday she was dressed only for him. If only, he had seen her hurt on being left alone when all she desired to be was with him and for him.

If only he had dropped his cloak to see her happiness and palpable radiance on his achievement, how much his happiness mattered more to her than to him.

He only ended up hurting her more. But unfortunately he has hurt himself more by hurting her.

Every taunt every barb at the party, though in his mind he wanted to aim at her, he couldn't see meet her eyes and tell her. Because his heart wouldn't let him. It knows.

Unfortunately He holds his bitter lesson from the past and his fear closer to his heart than love.

Only Love can remove his fear and only by letting his fear go will he see her love.

He needs to stop standing in own way to love.

With Ishita he won't lose cause of Love but has a chance of losing by holding back.

Raman is his own enemy Right now. Not Shagun, Not Ashok, not Mani..

A Byran Adams song that came to my mind (but from Ishita's side)..

Look into my eyes, you will see
What you mean to me
Search your heart, search your soul
And when you find me there
You'll search no more

Don't tell me, it's not worth tryin' for
You can't tell me, it's not worth dyin' for
You know it's true
Everything I do, I do it for you


I love everything I do by Bryan Adams! Funny I used the same song to describe Ishita in my post a few days ago! I like your music taste 😊
@Bold: Couldn't have said any better! Ishita is the medicine that Raman's illness needs, if only he lets her treat him.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: EkPaheli

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Hey Doc sorry for taking so long to edit this one but god I had a Sunday after ages when I slept like a log for almost all the day...after a back breaking Diwali this one was nirvana ...sorry got carried away with my rambling

To say this is a wonderful post would be putting it mildly but this is exactly the problem here - head v/s heart...a heart that has moved on, fallen in love but the head - the ever-practical mind that doesnt forget, doesnt forgive.

In my opinion our hearts have the capacity to love, forgive and heal but it is the memories that scarr us which are impressed upon our minds that dont make it easy to forgive or heal...the mind isnt cunning when it does so - it is protective, scared, jaded and more than anything cautious of not allowing history to repeat itself ever again. It doesnt want a repeat/rehash of what we have already once suffered through ignorance/innocence...

I would like to recall the first instance where we saw Raman and Ishita crossing paths. They are in the dark when she is about to leave to attend a case while he is heading home...she hears him say a sick child needs a doctor NOT a parent...if you process that statement with your logical mind, you wouldnt find it wrong... a parent sometimes even those that are doctors for real cannot do much for their child that is sick and suffering, not because they are inept but because the child needs healing and sometimes even professionals may fail at that because emotions get in the way...

But if you listen to that statement and feel...you would find it cruel, absurd even - yes logically the parent cant do much for the child...but when you are sick the first instinct is to cry out for your mother...when you want to go to a doc or are scared of needles you wanna hide behind her...a child doesnt need a parent or parents precisely to get better or heal...the parents are needed to show you arent alone, you dont need to be scared...you need not fear or worry...and only the heart of a parent, the love of a parent can get that...a scared child needs a mother more than a doctor becuase she makes you feel safer than anyone else in the world can.

Raman hears her words and changes his mind...he pays heed to the call of his heart and as he does that the lights come on and he only sees a stranger walking away from him and as he replies to Mihir regarding who it was..his shadow that asked him the question understanding Raman was influenced...he replies just someone with whom my thoughts could never match, someone I wont be able to agree with...his mind back in the driving seat..it seals off the emotional man who peeked out when he heard a woman say what really matters in life...

Had Raman, the real Raman...the one who since the first moment of interacting with Ishita started getting influenced by her...who went on to become Ishita' Raman, not known the answer to that query made by Mihir? He did...but he chose to neglect it for the call of his mind only when his heart was reaffirmed by her did he take the right path...somehow he finds himself in much the same place today as he scours for answers - to know whether to trust his head or to go with his heart...

A heart which in loving again has let go of its previous occupant and all her memories. Its the mind that isnt allowing him to get over the experience of the past and hence making him react or behave the way he is...he would need a reason, a cause to believe his heart again - something from her end again...but the question remains when the seeds of doubt are sown is it possible to unroot them that easy? Can anyone else do that for you? No, not necessarily so long as you feed yourself to this poision it will suck you, until you go dry and there isnt anything left anymore...until you are hollow.

The only way to unroot the seeds of poisonous doubt is to find the faith in yourself, in your heart to know the truth...else no justifications, no answers would satiate you...


Ani!!! Thank you for taking out time and posting it's always a pleasure to read your thoughts. And please don't apologize I can understand weekends get busy. It was a Sunday full of football for me, and my team won so that makes for an awesome Sunday 😊

Your post is brilliant, you describe the tug of war between heart and mind beautifully!
The scene that you describe when they first met is a revelation for me because I haven't seen this show from the beginning, after reading your wonderful description I am definitely gonna start watching from the 1st episode.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: swati62

Wow loved ur insight into Raman's character.


Thank you Swati!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Amii90

I can imagine; my second year in Uni wasnt exactly all that pleasant either! 4th year was relatively easy like you said & I had more time on my hands to do all that bakwaas I did in the ATs towards the end lol! Good times!

I am not being kind- I am just being real & saying the truth! I haven't seen today's episode but will catch it after work tonight! But you were bang on with your analysis- Raman vs Raman- very true!


lol yeah 2nd year was a torture, now only boards remain and then hopefully I match into a residency! And thank you for the kind words, you girls make me feel like am a great literary mind. Do watch the episode, you will enjoy Raman.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rajji-cutest

Loved this analysis of Raman, i totally agree with it !👏


Thank you Rajji!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: zainabawoon

Wow!!Awesome analysis yaar 👍🏼 and i Agree with u


Thank you very much!

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