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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Panthera

Raman went and asked for it. He started the confrontational conversation. Mani was just going to fetch water for Ishita. He and us, can't then complain that Mani spoke his mind!😆

And how he spoke his mind...it is only when raman pushed it too far that he told him that in BUILDING a relationship in his marriage he has been a failure. Which is true! Even raman knows its true..." "she tried to fit into my family and what did I do..I just kept making fun of her"...which is putting it mildly!! His selective memory is only of this navratri and associated ritual. He is still clueless about the constant verbal diahrrea he does on Ishita. Romi pointed it out but did it register?

Raman is trying to convince himself more than Mani that he has been "there" for Ishita. Yes he has. Once. When he get her licence back. Amma accident doesn't count coz as soon as adi came into the picture, he will do anything for shagun. He did then and he will again.

We are all un-neccesarily getting hung up on mani. Just wait till shagun is dumped by the poplu and bhoplu brothers, raman/shagun track is coming...adi ke liye as usual.



This is what i was trying to say on the other thread opened by reina..
You are absolutely right...If this adi issue comes up again... I am 100% sure.. that ishitha inspite of telling him to trust her he will not and will hurt her a lot in the process as manytimes before ...

I m waiting for that part to come, when he is as a husbanc expected to stand up will not.. and this will be a heavy blow ... in all the angles of their Marriage Relationship..

Im pretty looking forward to the situation what the forum will blow up like that day...😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Panthera

Raman went and asked for it. He started the confrontational conversation. Mani was just going to fetch water for Ishita. He and us, can't then complain that Mani spoke his mind!😆

And how he spoke his mind...it is only when raman pushed it too far that he told him that in BUILDING a relationship in his marriage he has been a failure. Which is true! Even raman knows its true..." "she tried to fit into my family and what did I do..I just kept making fun of her"...which is putting it mildly!! His selective memory is only of this navratri and associated ritual. He is still clueless about the constant verbal diahrrea he does on Ishita. Romi pointed it out but did it register?

Raman is trying to convince himself more than Mani that he has been "there" for Ishita. Yes he has. Once. When he get her licence back. Amma accident doesn't count coz as soon as adi came into the picture, he will do anything for shagun. He did then and he will again.

We are all un-neccesarily getting hung up on mani. Just wait till shagun is dumped by the poplu and bhoplu brothers, raman/shagun track is coming...adi ke liye as usual.


He still not realized his mistake.his guilt /frustration (he doesnt know anything about ishita and mani knows all, mani is handeling situation better ways) making him angry on mani actually..

@blue true.when adi enteres in the picture raman forgets everyone and because of adi he directly or indirectly help shagun without a second thought..

Edited by v_ani_patel - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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(Raman went and asked for it. He started the confrontational conversation. Mani was just going to fetch water for Ishita. He and us, can't then complain that Mani spoke his mind!😆

And how he spoke his mind...it is only when raman pushed it too far that he told him that in BUILDING a relationship in his marriage he has been a failure. Which is true! Even raman knows its true..." "she tried to fit into my family and what did I do..I just kept making fun of her"...which is putting it mildly!! His selective memory is only of this navratri and associated ritual. He is still clueless about the constant verbal diahrrea he does on Ishita. Romi pointed it out but did it register?

Raman is trying to convince himself more than Mani that he has been "there" for Ishita. Yes he has. Once. When he get her licence back. Amma accident doesn't count coz as soon as adi came into the picture, he will do anything for shagun. He did then and he will again.

We are all un-neccesarily getting hung up on mani. Just wait till shagun is dumped by the poplu and bhoplu brothers, raman/shagun track is coming...adi ke liye as usual.)
I agree with the shagun and adi part..in tht case raman will definitely do adi ke Leyte..1st child n all.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Panthera

Raman went and asked for it. He started the confrontational conversation. Mani was just going to fetch water for Ishita. He and us, can't then complain that Mani spoke his mind!😆

And how he spoke his mind...it is only when raman pushed it too far that he told him that in BUILDING a relationship in his marriage he has been a failure. Which is true! Even raman knows its true..." "she tried to fit into my family and what did I do..I just kept making fun of her"...which is putting it mildly!! His selective memory is only of this navratri and associated ritual. He is still clueless about the constant verbal diahrrea he does on Ishita. Romi pointed it out but did it register?

Raman is trying to convince himself more than Mani that he has been "there" for Ishita. Yes he has. Once. When he get her licence back. Amma accident doesn't count coz as soon as adi came into the picture, he will do anything for shagun. He did then and he will again.

We are all un-neccesarily getting hung up on mani. Just wait till shagun is dumped by the poplu and bhoplu brothers, raman/shagun track is coming...adi ke liye as usual.


Unfortunately people don't see this, they only see Mani 'lecturing' him. I mean as a popular saying goes, 'Chor ke daadi mein tinka'. How I read the scene was Raman was somewhere a little guilty that he did not think of bringing Ruhi, he was jealous undoubtedly. There was no reason to approach Mani the way he did. Mani may not be the perfect guy, but neither was Raman right in his place. Raman got what he asked for. What both of them said was valid. Raman rationalized and tried to validate his actions, Mani showed him where he still lacked. It was a needed banter.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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This is what i was trying to say on the other thread opened by reina..
You are absolutely right...If this adi issue comes up again... I am 100% sure.. that ishitha inspite of telling him to trust her he will not and will hurt her a lot in the process as manytimes before ...

I m waiting for that part to come, when he is as a husbanc expected to stand up will not.. and this will be a heavy blow ... in all the angles of their Marriage Relationship..

Im pretty looking forward to the situation what the forum will blow up like that day...😆


I would like to see the forum when Shagun is brought back to the forefront and Ishita is back to bearing the brunt of Raman's past. I don't want to point out single members or talk about them, because I was warned. But I would just like to point out that Mani has never insulted Raman, Ishita has straight up being burnt and taunted and insulted and yelled at by Shagun, for no fault of hers. Mani is not a villain, yet we treat him like it.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: v_ani_patel


He still not realized his mistake.his guilt (he doesnt know anything about ishita and mani knows all, mani is handeling situation better ways) making him angry on mani actually..

@blue true.when adi enteres in the picture raman forgets everyone and because of adi he directly or indirectly help shagun without a second thought..


Hey, As you bought his up I wanted to elaborate on this a little bit...As for me, i understand that both ishitha and raman have gone through a lot in their past. And after marriage ishitha has gone thru her inlaws rejection, Simmi's tantrums, Param track, accident track.,and so on.. ofcourse raman has gone thru much .. as well... in some cases like accident track he could have avoided some pain to both him and ishitha by confessing to her.. which he did not and people have supported him by saying adi is his past and he cannot get over it and it's understandable...But, is it not wrong for him to step up a lot more and work on it as ishitha is a desirable spouse in terms of understanding and standing up for all the right reasons... im not supporting her in getting shagun to the bedroom and all ...

But.. the way she has shown her abilities the first time when raman talked about her being barren and all unconciously ended up hurting her...

As is understand, Raman should be stepping up a lot more.. and tune down on the nok jhoks...and be more sensitive and mature.. May be this will happen in the near future..

So i am sure, that Ishitha is the spouse everyone would long for...in a more broader sense...
and Raman is a good man from his place... but not from other's feela nd look at the bigger picture..He needs to wind down a little bit... And again both have made sacrifices for each other in their own lasting ways...Hope this helps to atleast an outsider...who dont follow and ofcourse has no biases...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Reina1


Unfortunately people don't see this, they only see Mani 'lecturing' him. I mean as a popular saying goes, 'Chor ke daadi mein tinka'. How I read the scene was Raman was somewhere a little guilty that he did not think of bringing Ruhi, he was jealous undoubtedly. There was no reason to approach Mani the way he did. Mani may not be the perfect guy, but neither was Raman right in his place. Raman got what he asked for. What both of them said was valid. Raman rationalized and tried to validate his actions, Mani showed him where he still lacked. It was a needed banter.



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Exactly!! That look on his face when mani says..."not even for ruhi??" and ruhi walks into the room. The look on raman's face was a picture!😆 "Oh yeahhh!!" he thought!! His face said "EUREKA "But later he convinently forgets that and starts shreaking at mani about he is the daddy and he didn't bring her coz she would have got anxious. Yeah rite!😆

Same as when he starts screaming at romi and threatening to slap him. He is accusing romi of stressing ishita by getting her told off by toshi! Yeah mr bhalla ...and WHO was it who:

1) Vowed to make sure jasmeet (or whatever her name was) pammy's sister's daugher met mani?? Because he thought ishita is trying to prevent mani from meeting any girls ? AND THEN when pammy blows up, raman blames ishita!! Wah puttar!! 👏 If ishita had not managed to fix the meeting, raman had vowed to make it happen. But guess what, then he says that getting the two to meet all a mistake commited by ishita! That ishita poked her nose where it didn't belong and the reaction from pammy was to be expected!! Hypocrite! and wayyy below the belt puttar, way below the belt!

2) He hears everything romi is saying to toshi on the phone abut the pammy incidence etc etc and how romi paints the wrong picture. What was puttar's face showing...GLEE and PLEASURE which then increased TENFOLD when toshi starts shouting at ishita! But in the hospital...ohhh it was romi's fault for telling tales and stressing ishita!! He didn't stop romi from painting the wrong picture to toshi. Nor did he explain to toshi that ishita is doing everything as it should be done for navaratri. He listened and ENJOYED was Ishita had to go thru from toshi. Puttar you play dirty and often AND you enjoy it. Not good.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Reina1


I would like to see the forum when Shagun is brought back to the forefront and Ishita is back to bearing the brunt of Raman's past. I don't want to point out single members or talk about them, because I was warned. But I would just like to point out that Mani has never insulted Raman, Ishita has straight up being burnt and taunted and insulted and yelled at by Shagun, for no fault of hers. Mani is not a villain, yet we treat him like it.


Absolutely ...AMEN to that!!! It covers the whole picture.. even if Mani is at fault for interfering... Shagun is the worst...

I am not sure about india.. but raman can get a restraing order against shagun already for torturing him and his wife...And as for ADI he need to take a strict path the sooner the better, COZ that will help him and ADI , as its a GIVEN how shagun is....
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Panthera


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Exactly!! That look on his face when mani says..."not even for ruhi??" and ruhi walks into the room. The look on raman's face was a picture!😆 "Oh yeahhh!!" he thought!! His face said "EUREKA "But later he convinently forgets that and starts shreaking at mani about he is the daddy and he didn't bring her coz she would have got anxious. Yeah rite!😆

Same as when he starts screaming at romi and threatening to slap him. He is accusing romi of stressing ishita by getting her told off by toshi! Yeah mr bhalla ...and WHO was it who:

1) Vowed to make sure jasmeet (or whatever her name was) pammy's sister's daugher met mani?? Because he thought ishita is trying to prevent mani from meeting any girls ? AND THEN when pammy blows up, raman blames ishita!! Wah puttar!! 👏 If ishita had not managed to fix the meeting, raman had vowed to make it happen. But guess what, then he says that getting the two to meet all a mistake commited by ishita! That ishita poked her nose where it didn't belong and the reaction from pammy was to be expected!! Hypocrite! and wayyy below the belt puttar, way below the belt!

2) He hears everything romi is saying to toshi on the phone abut the pammy incidence etc etc and how romi paints the wrong picture. What was puttar's face showing...GLEE and PLEASURE which then increased TENFOLD when toshi starts shouting at ishita! But in the hospital...ohhh it was romi's fault for telling tales and stressing ishita!! He didn't stop romi from painting the wrong picture to toshi. Nor did he explain to toshi that ishita is doing everything as it should be done for navaratri. He listened and ENJOYED was Ishita had to go thru from toshi. Puttar you play dirty and often AND you enjoy it. Not good.


Exactly, when it is convenient for Raman he will just put Ishita out to dry, and then randomly he will come to help her. Bipolar Kumar... yet he is the hero and must be protected at all costs. I like him, he is a good guy, he is troubled which justifies a lot of how he acts, but still, there is scope for improvement and a reality check is needed. Raman has a lot of self-conceived notions, and takes what he likes seriously and treats what he likes as a joke...he needs to remain consistent with his behaviour and understand the impact of how his actions impact others. My dad is a lot like Raman, he will yell and scream, then say sorry and want things to be alright. IT IS NOT. He yells at my mom in front of people, then says sorry, we grew up terrified of him. It is NOT okay. I stood up to him, my sister stood up to him, and ultimately it was my uncle that showed him how his behaviour was affecting us. Realistically characters like him exist, I know because my dad is not a bad person, he just justifies his ego and his actions, when they are not. Sometimes people hurt because of it, and it needs to be recognized.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Panthera


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Exactly!! That look on his face when mani says..."not even for ruhi??" and ruhi walks into the room. The look on raman's face was a picture!😆 "Oh yeahhh!!" he thought!! His face said "EUREKA "But later he convinently forgets that and starts shreaking at mani about he is the daddy and he didn't bring her coz she would have got anxious. Yeah rite!😆

Same as when he starts screaming at romi and threatening to slap him. He is accusing romi of stressing ishita by getting her told off by toshi! Yeah mr bhalla ...and WHO was it who:

1) Vowed to make sure jasmeet (or whatever her name was) pammy's sister's daugher met mani?? Because he thought ishita is trying to prevent mani from meeting any girls ? AND THEN when pammy blows up, raman blames ishita!! Wah puttar!! 👏 If ishita had not managed to fix the meeting, raman had vowed to make it happen. But guess what, then he says that getting the two to meet all a mistake commited by ishita! That ishita poked her nose where it didn't belong and the reaction from pammy was to be expected!! Hypocrite! and wayyy below the belt puttar, way below the belt!

2) He hears everything romi is saying to toshi on the phone abut the pammy incidence etc etc and how romi paints the wrong picture. What was puttar's face showing...GLEE and PLEASURE which then increased TENFOLD when toshi starts shouting at ishita! But in the hospital...ohhh it was romi's fault for telling tales and stressing ishita!! He didn't stop romi from painting the wrong picture to toshi. Nor did he explain to toshi that ishita is doing everything as it should be done for navaratri. He listened and ENJOYED was Ishita had to go thru from toshi. Puttar you play dirty and often AND you enjoy it. Not good.


😆..For point 2.. Again... its understood for many that...because Raman likes palying pranks.he is in his usual mode...whereas ishitha's jhasoosi actions..are magnified and dissected bit by bit...😕

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