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BombayTroll

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Posted: 11 years ago

#111

Phew finally replied to everyone

Thanks for commenting

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--Megha--

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Posted: 11 years ago

#112

Originally posted by: Isma_A
In re to the comments from Nisha et all about how the two portray their feelings/move in the relationship, I am not fully convinced of Ishita's love for Raman on any level. Like Nisha pointed out, Ishita acknowledges Raman as "mera Raman" when he does something similar to what she would do (as a mahaan). To me, that is now what love is about. The essence is diluted when one appreciates and feels for the other when it's on their terms and conditions. Should love not be unconditional? Is it not possible for Raman to still be Ishita's Raman without him telling Mihir to patch up with Shagun? Looking at Raman's characterization, would Raman really have asked Mihir to do such a thing? I have my doubts. 😕 And really, who are Raman and Ishita both to make that call? 😕

Raman falling for Ishita, however, has been crafted intelligently, executed brilliantly by the actor, and also includes strong and visible physical attraction, which is sorely lacking on Ishita's end. I no longer am a fan of their nok-jhok and like others, consider many taunts now unnecessary and rude, which I before argued were used as a defense mechanism. Putting the taunts aside, I still feel we've seen more from his end than hers. Is there a fear by CVs to give us a strong independpent female lead who also shows she WANTS her husband? I don't understand the constant one step forward and ten steps back. It doesn't seem the CVs know what to do with Ishita or the love story anymore.

Exactly Ishita is the person who wants to see the Prince behind the Frog before kissing him or who wants to see the charming beautiful Prince behind the Beast before accepting him as a soulmate.

She is scared to take a leap of faith n Kiss the frog so that he will change into Prince or scared to accept the beast the way he is.

N so is the case with RKB too. he likes her but then he taunts her. he is not the typical mills n Boon type of hero who wud make the heroine feel special about herself which Ishita wants.

N CV's have seldom shown Ishita's thought process. She understands SHagun n co but fails to understand her husband.

But if we say that Ishita shud accept RKB the way he is, it shud apply to RKB too has he completely accepted Ishita? He still taunts her n calls her dinosaur, tumahri awaz chubti hai etc.Tells her not to intrude in his privacy. U don't respect her as ur wife but u can respect her as a woman at least? So we viewers get to see a flawed RKB who loves Ishita but taunts her too.

If ishita shud accept Raman the way he is, he shud also accept her for her mahaanta n her meddlesome ways n not ask her to change it ? It works both ways.

Actually both r right n wrong in their respective positions 😆 I am really not able to take sides who is right or wrong in Ishra. I feel n just my POV ki CV's have created right n flawed characters in Ishra.

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kuhu_d

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Posted: 11 years ago

#113

Originally posted by: --mancityfan--

Well what will he do if kachra he described really goes out of his life

- do u mean shogun with kachra? there is no hope of her leaving-i m sure the day ashok kicks her out of his life, she will b back in raman's for sure. n i mentioned it already in another post-the day raman ditches ishita or sleeps with shogun, thats it! i hope it won't b like in kasam s, where the main lead slept with the wife's sister, as he was UPSET, that his wife MIGHT leave him. n i won't b surprised if cvs will drag it that way, that raman MU ishita n mani's closeness n sleeps with shogun to FORGET the pain ishita has given him...god i just soo soo hope, that all this rumours of ASHIKA is false n that raman never gets back with shogun-i would stop watching the show. i honestly don't care much about MiMi as such, but if ASHIKA happens shogun will b free to ruin ISHRAs life

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BombayTroll

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Posted: 11 years ago

#114

Originally posted by: kuhu_d

- do u mean shogun with kachra? there is no hope of her leaving-i m sure the day ashok kicks her out of his life, she will b back in raman's for sure. n i mentioned it already in another post-the day raman ditches ishita or sleeps with shogun, thats it! i hope it won't b like in kasam s, where the main lead slept with the wife's sister, as he was UPSET, that his wife MIGHT leave him. n i won't b surprised if cvs will drag it that way, that raman MU ishita n mani's closeness n sleeps with shogun to FORGET the pain ishita has given him...god i just soo soo hope, that all this rumours of ASHIKA is false n that raman never gets back with shogun-i would stop watching the show. i honestly don't care much about MiMi as such, but if ASHIKA happens shogun will b free to ruin ISHRAs life

Bwahaha hope not

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FieryLioness

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Posted: 11 years ago

#115

nice analysis Vyas...

m not disliking Mani that much.. see i told u, old feelings r ruling me 😳

but i can say he loves Ishu so i hope he will nt be a prob for IshRa in future...

for Raman and his sharp tongue... i dnt have anything to say...

its plain insult and no teasing.. so not enjoying it anymore...

abt Ishu Shagun ... i dnt thik she is wrong as of now...

she heard it and was disturbed abt it... any gud human will react the way she did..then she shared it wid her hubby... she didn't poke her nose this time...

hopefully she will maintain this further and stay away from Shagun fiasco.. she heard smthing and did the needful.. her job is over here...

abt ur last live , i so so agree... m missing him.

at least its fun to watch his smirks 😳😆

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BombayTroll

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Posted: 11 years ago

#116

Originally posted by: FieryLioness
nice analysis Vyas...
m not disliking Mani that much.. see i told u, old feelings r ruling me😳
but i can say he loves Ishu so i hope he will nt be a prob for IshRa in future...
for Raman and his sharp tongue... i dnt have anything to say...
its plain insult and no teasing.. so not enjoying it anymore...
abt Ishu Shagun ... i dnt thik she is wrong as of now...
she heard it and was disturbed abt it... any gud human will react the way she did..then she shared it wid her hubby... she didn't poke her nose this time...
hopefully she will maintain this further and stay away from Shagun fiasco.. she heard smthing and did the needful.. her job is over here...

abt ur last live , i so so agree... m missing him.
at least its fun to watch his smirks😳😆

No worries meet

I mean

Ishita has feelings for Raman

She said that

So how can she not feel jealous and scared

She was sympathetic

Raman was insulting her

He will regret

I am talking about mani and not sumeet

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Nisha0604

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Posted: 11 years ago

#117

Originally posted by: kuhu_d

- do u mean shogun with kachra? there is no hope of her leaving-i m sure the day ashok kicks her out of his life, she will b back in raman's for sure. n i mentioned it already in another post-the day raman ditches ishita or sleeps with shogun, thats it! i hope it won't b like in kasam s, where the main lead slept with the wife's sister, as he was UPSET, that his wife MIGHT leave him. n i won't b surprised if cvs will drag it that way, that raman MU ishita n mani's closeness n sleeps with shogun to FORGET the pain ishita has given him...god i just soo soo hope, that all this rumours of ASHIKA is false n that raman never gets back with shogun-i would stop watching the show. i honestly don't care much about MiMi as such, but if ASHIKA happens shogun will b free to ruin ISHRAs life

Megha

Agar woh prince nahi nikla to dump kar degi?

For some one that wallows in self pity of having been hurt by Subbu and her infertility ( iam told that as the reason for her coldness)

Letting a guy like Raman go because he doesnt rise up to HER ridiculous standards is a lil hypocritical IMO

Also its NOT called LOVE

Its called a "calculated strategy"

LOVE HAPPENS

What IShita is angling for is a tactical well thought out unemotional

move Sorry!

Edited by Nisha0604 - 11 years ago

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FieryLioness

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Posted: 11 years ago

#118

Originally posted by: --mancityfan--

No worries meet

I mean

Ishita has feelings for Raman

She said that

So how can she not feel jealous and scared

She was sympathetic

Raman was insulting her

He will regret

I am talking about mani and not sumeet

even i was talking abt Mani only... m liking him so far..

m just hoping CV's r not planning to turn him negative

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--Megha--

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Posted: 11 years ago

#119

Originally posted by: Nisha0604
Megha

Agar woh prince nahi nikla to dump kar degi?
For some one that wallows in self pity of having been hurt by Subbu and her infertility ( iam told that as the reason for her coldness)
Letting a guy like Raman go because he doesnt rise up to HER ridiculous standards is a lil hypocritical IMO

That is what we need to see whether she will dump him or just go with the flow n keep on being Ishima n not Raman's wife.

@Italics I think its not just her past that has made her like that she was always like that. As I said a few posts ago ki she takes her genes from Mrs Iyer who likes to meddle her ways into other peoples problems, spying (the way Mrs Iyer went to Raman's office to check on him n his paycheck), who has stupidest ideas of taking revenge from param. Ishita too acted stupid in getting Param home.(My opinion about the character)

It also depends on Raman to accept Ishita the way she is - meddlesome, jagga jasoos, Lecturing, Overly righteous, egoistic in case of her Husband (I thought she was being insensitive n egoistic when she didn't think of Involving Bhalla family about her decision in inviting Param or SHagun home)

She might be hypocritical in saying that Raman needs to change n make her feel special when she herself refuses to change her ways. And Ishita is being over analytical in accepting Raman the way he is, but it just spells that she is the way she is, thats it.

Edited by mnr123 - 11 years ago

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Posted: 11 years ago

#120

Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Megha

Agar woh prince nahi nikla to dump kar degi?
For some one that wallows in self pity of having been hurt by Subbu and her infertility ( iam told that as the reason for her coldness)
Letting a guy like Raman go because he doesnt rise up to HER ridiculous standards is a lil hypocritical IMO
Also its NOT called LOVE
Its called a "calculated strategy"
LOVE HAPPENS
What IShita is angling for is a tactical well thought out unemotional
move Sorry!

Well thats what i said that each of us have a different perception about love n nothing is right or wrong, lets not categorize it that way is what I am trying to say.

Even if Ishita is portrayed as WRONG, its good na its so much better than the Unique Bahu's that we see on TV who act according to Husbands or inlaws only, here we r seeing a woman who is using her brain. Whether its right or wrong is an different issue 😆

I think Ishita is intact being over emotional, she believes in Raman when he gives her Dance of passion in Rain. She wants Raman to give her the much needed pampering rather than taunting her all the time. She gushes when he says I check ur back side. 😉 She is happy when she knows that he has kept her photo as a screensaver n wallpaper. I think its signs of selfishness that she wants Raman to make her feel special 24x7 n quite egoistic that she doesn't want to tell him her real feelings on his face but want him to act according to her 😆

I think somewhere the CV's have created a smart character in ishita. Even when she makes her RKB jealous, she knows he is getting affected yet she loves in poking him. 😳 it does not show her as Ms goody but as someone sadist who loves the pleasure of making Raman jealous 😃

Edited by mnr123 - 11 years ago

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