Why so much HATE for Raman and Ishita?!.... It AINT make NO sense.... - Page 6

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Brilliant post Shivu!! I so agree. Specially with the part that RKB never ever meant Ishu cant give him a child. Its just that in his sub conscious he has accepted that Adi is and will be his only son.Not because Ishu cant be a mother but because child was never the expectation out of this matrimony. So all moments related to his first son are precious for Raman.

As for him saying sorry and thanks to Shagun I feel that's actually a very good sign.After all till when can you hate a person?Had this been the old Raman he would hv taunted Shagun to not remind him of his duties when she is herself a bad mother. But he never said that. At that moment it was not about shagun for him, it was abt his son.And Shagun was just the person who reminded him of an imp date in his sons life. And thus that thanku and sorry were his signs of beginning to treat shagun ONLY as adi's guardian rather than his ex. He didnt throw any pot shots at her. And that's exactly what Ishu advised him to do.

So in a way what Ishu thinks he must do to move on from shagun, unknowingly he has started. He has started being in peace with the fact that he is happier even sans Shagun in his life.

And for all these reasons I feel yesterday's epi was quite meaningful. Its imp for Raman to realize that all his anger he shows on shagun is actually not anger but his own self-pity. And as he will go on accepting the happiness of his present, he will realize that whatever bad shagun did to him, now holds no meaning in his life. Because Ishu added her own meaning and beauty to his life 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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very nice post Shiva... agree tp most of it but not all...
i have read ur post and Lucky's reply ... so stating my point on both...
first come to ur topic... even i m not able to understand why so much hatred for Raman and Ishita...
i share i different view then urs... i disliked Raman's dialogue...
but it doesn't make any sense i say i hate him... it was a dialogue said in a situation... i can disagree to what he said but hate no way... and hate for Ishita , for what man... what she did , to be hated by any1...
whatever u said abt Raman's and Ishita i agree... in Ishita case i agree to ur every single word... she did what a sensible person can do... she told him to respect the woman...she was right after all she is mother of his kids... and shagun is a negative character, Raman not, we don't want Raman to behave same way wid her... so Ishita said very right just respect her and don't keep any other emotion for her... she tried to let him get over his past and move on... so for me bench convo was best of IshRa scenes...

now come to Raman-Shagun scene...sorry here i disagree bit...
as long as it was abt raman feeling guilty for forgetting date and saying sorry to shagun, was all ok... a father was feeling guilty and he did the right... he pleaded his ex wife to sign the papers for his son... he was no where wrong as a father...
call it sensitivity of situation or provocation from Shagun that he carried away from just being father... the way he was helpless in front of her and the way he said he canot feel the happiness again of being father , didn't go well wid me... m not going to what he intent... but m taking it more as he is not over his past yet... shagun was right she still effects him and thats not only coz of adi...
whether he knew that Ishita is listening or not, i still think he wasn't suppose to share wid the women who is his ex and not only that she caused him every possible damage...
u said we r to blame that we think abt Ishita's infertility...no dear any person will think this way... even Ishita did the same...and when she asked him "if not that then what he meant "
he didn't have any answer...
m not saying he is wrong, what he did wrong and blah blah blah
but as an IshRa fan m hoping we will see a track where shagun will no longer control him and we will have IshRa story... m not accepting a confession or any lovey dovey scenes among leads ...but at least i want Raman to understand who is past and who is present and future...
hope i make sense 😳


andLuckyur post... must say wow... u said it all...
what ever u said is damn true... how a mother manipulated situation to make a father guilty...
yesterday shagun showed only 1% of what she can actually do...
but what i felt more is... in that scene we didn't see a father only... but a ex hubby too...
thats what disturbed me in that scene...
but later when Ishita raised the same thing , i felt relieved as it might help...
and m so hoping Raman will forgive shagun and move on...
like they say if u want to move on u have to forgive...
i know shagun will not leave him and try every thing to effect his life...
but no one can help in this until and unless Raman himself don't want this...
if he will keep any emotion be it anger, hatred or anything for her, he will not b able to move on...
hopefully we will have next track where he will no longer keep on to his past... and my past i meant only shagun and not adi...


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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: ForbbidenLove


<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#ff00cc">For the love of God...STOP it already!</font>


<font size="3" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" color="#ff00cc">Like seriously!, what is there to hate Raman and Ishita for?</font>




<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#9900cc">Did Raman hug and kiss Shagun?</font>


<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#9900cc">Did Ishita tell Raman to go and be slave to Shagun?</font>


<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#ff6699">Because seeing the forum having hate posts for Raman and Ishita, it feels like the above mentioned just took place and that's why all this hatred posts on ISHRA...</font>




<font color="#0033ff" size="3" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif">The conversation between Raman and Shagun was entirely of a Parent talking about their Child...You can't deny the fact that Shagun is the Biological Mom of Adi and Ruhi</font>


<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#996633">Shagun can go to hell for all I care...Yes, her motives were different...I'm least bothered about her..What more can you expect from a filthy person like her?!...</font>



<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#ff00cc">But why is there so much hate for Raman?!</font>


<font size="3" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif"><font color="#ff6699">His conversation with her was nothing more than a Father who spoke his heart out in regards to his Son...</font><font color="#0033ff">He wasn't talking to his Ex-Wife he was talking to the Mom of his Kids... </font><font color="#ff00cc">There's a huge difference guys...</font></font>



<font color="#0033ff" size="3" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif">Everyone is saying that Raman hurt Ishita blah blah blah... I'm sorry but did Raman know Ishita was there...If Raman had known Ishita was there than Fine,..I agree that Raman hurt Ishita by saying all those things.. In fact all he said was he can never be a Father again..What's wrong in that? Isn't it true that he can never be a Father! So why you all overreacting for that?! Why must you guys always drag Ishita in for something Raman had said which in no way was meant for her...</font>


<font size="3" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif"><font color="#0033ff">Let me make it clear to you guys that, when Raman said the whole "he can never be a Father"...Ishita never crossed his mind.. He DID NOT think of Ishita's inability to give birth when he said that... Because if he had,...he wouldn't have gone searching for Ishita right after that... He wouldn't have been worried about when he couldn't find her... When he spotted her, and he felt something was wrong with her, he tried to cheer her up... He didn't know why she was just sitting alone out in the bench but when he saw her, he could sense she was a little upset.. And though he didn't know the reason why..he didn't even waste one second in trying to bring her back to her normal JhansikiRani mode... </font><font color="#ff00cc">Have you guys forgotten?! He was the same RamanKumarBhalla who ditched her at the first party... then went away leaving her behind... But today, he made sure he NEVER left her side..</font></font>


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<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#ff6633">Sadly, it's you guys who thought of Ishita's inability to give birth...and started hating on Raman.. So if there's anyone you should hate..it should be yourself... Because what you accused Raman off..is exactly what some of you'll did...</font>




<font color="#ff6699" size="3" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif">And what's so wrong in Ishita telling Raman to respect Shagun?</font>


<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#00cc00">Any civilized person would have said the same thing..Couples who have been divorced do share a cordial relationship even after they have separated... It's just that Shagun is a bitch and that's what annoys us all...but it's pretty obvious now, that she's not going away and we can't avoid her... So what can we do...just stay in one corner and sulk??! No matter what happens...life goes on.. You can choose to stay in one place and be stagnant but Time doesn't wait for anyone...</font>


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<font size="3" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif"><font color="#00cc00">Ishita basically helped Raman move on once and for all...Raman's hatred for Shagun, in one way or another has always held him back from moving forward...to having a happier, brighter future..</font><font color="#ff6699">His hate for Shagun is kinda..Shagun's passport to tormenting and torturing him..AND finally Ishita made it clear to him...</font></font>



<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#00cc00">Ishita is not acting like a mahan by saying so... Ishita knew how much Raman's hatred and anger for Shagun was ruining him...</font>


<font size="3" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif"><font color="#00cc00">Anger clouds the mind and hatred blurs the vision... And when Ishita said, he should respect Shagun...</font><font color="#ff00cc">I felt it to be a closure for Raman in terms of Shagun and his bad past...The respect, how I see it as is CLOSURE... And with closure comes PEACE & LOVE... Peace clears the mind, Love restores the vision...</font></font>



<font size="3" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif"><font color="#00cc00">Shagun was in a way having control over Raman all these years..how?..through his hatred...She was able to affect his mood with even the slightest things she does...</font><font color="#ff00cc">We should STOP letting people who do so little for you, control so much of your mind, feelings and emotions...</font><font color="#ff6699"> <<This is exactly what, Ishita made clear to Raman today...</font></font>




<font size="3" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" color="#0099ff">We need to stop getting all overly emotional for some lame ass thing and start acting sensible like how ISHRA...</font>


<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#ff6699">Stop over analyzing each and every thing... Learn to be more practical... YHM is depicting reality and ISHRA are depicting how REAL people would be like... There was nothing wrong in today's episode..in fact I LOVED how much they have progressed along all these months as a couple.. They started this journey as Raman & Ishita but now they are continuing the journey as ISHRA...</font>




<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#cc00ff">P.S. Seeing how the forum goes haywire because of minor things reminded me of this;</font><font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#ff0000"> People will question all the good things they hear about you but believe all the bad without a second thought...</font>




<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#ff00cc">-Shiva/Shivu</font>


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I am complitely agree wth you i donno why peaple r overreacting in the forum...n posting such negativs topics...n i am agreee with alll of ur points 👏 really mature n civilised person's post... 👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54
Beautifully said!! You said it all😊👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This 👏👏👏👏👏👏 for you !!! 😃
Amazing post !! I totally loved yesterday's episode.. Raman-Shagun talk was totally about Raman's emotions and love for his child. Same here, when you say that Shagun can go to hell for all I care...We shoudnt care about her intentions... It was such a pure scene when Raman poured his heart out for the love for his son😳
Ishita getting upset and sad was natural too! And I was so touched by ishra's convo later... I am glad Raman told her that you both (Ishi and Adi) have their own places in his life...
Just lovely episode! 😳
Kudos to you for this AMAZING post!! ⭐⭐
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very good post Shivu.
i actually loved yesterday epi too much.
We all were expecting Raman to bajofy shagun'is band but it was too predictable so what cvs gave us was totally unexpected👏 i never expected it to touch the subject of Ishu's infertility.
Whatever Raman said to Shagun was only related to Adi n his love for his son. He was fondly remembering his first born. Its natural he is human. And we have to accept that his past will come back frm time to time i his present.
Loved Ishu-Raman. They really had heart to heart conv. i too felt bad for Ishu. but it was needed Raman to realise Ishu's pain. Also loved how Ishu asked him abt Shagun. It was sensible. Ishu made him realise that he should let go his hatred for Shagun. That scene was perfect.
KP n DT were perfect as always.👏
Haa. At the end when Raman was washing his face I thought he will splash water on Ishu but our RKB has his own style loved the way showed that punch to Ishu.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#57
agree with u completely.
I really liked the way they spoke so openly about their relation n his children.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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beautiful post.👏agree wid u
it was beautiful episode.loved it. i didnt expect forum wil react like this. but some people always having problem either wid raman or ishu. so better to ignore such posts.
thanku soo much for making this post n bringing positivity here.👍🏌
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Posted: 11 years ago
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very very nice post dear i 100 percent agree with you i think last episode is very mature episode for mature persons like us .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ForbbidenLove



<font size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" color="#ff00cc">Janvi THANK YOU SO MUCH...🀗Brilliantly put across...👏</font>
<font size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" color="#ff00cc">@Bold, AMEN... They should seriously give this guy a break and stop bugging him for every little thing he says...</font>
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<font size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" color="#ff00cc">@Red, BIGGER AMEN... Exactly! I'm clueless on why people are acting like Ishita told Raman to go with Shagun... ishita spoke the fact and she was being practical...</font>


Eexactly my point. People should behave mature.

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