Why so much HATE for Raman and Ishita?!.... It AINT make NO sense....

For the love of God...STOP it already!

Like seriously!, what is there to hate Raman and Ishita for?

Did Raman hug and kiss Shagun?

Did Ishita tell Raman to go and be slave to Shagun?

Because seeing the forum having hate posts for Raman and Ishita, it feels like the above mentioned just took place and that's why all this hatred posts on ISHRA...

The conversation between Raman and Shagun was entirely of a Parent talking about their Child...You can't deny the fact that Shagun is the Biological Mom of Adi and Ruhi

Shagun can go to hell for all I care...Yes, her motives were different...I'm least bothered about her..What more can you expect from a filthy person like her?!...

But why is there so much hate for Raman?!

His conversation with her was nothing more than a Father who spoke his heart out in regards to his Son... He wasn't talking to his Ex-Wife he was talking to the Mom of his Kids... There's a huge difference guys...

Everyone is saying that Raman hurt Ishita blah blah blah... I'm sorry but did Raman know Ishita was there...If Raman had known Ishita was there than Fine,..I agree that Raman hurt Ishita by saying all those things.. In fact all he said was he can never be a Father again..What's wrong in that? Isn't it true that he can never be a Father! So why you all overreacting for that?! Why must you guys always drag Ishita in for something Raman had said which in no way was meant for her...

Let me make it clear to you guys that, when Raman said the whole "he can never be a Father"...Ishita never crossed his mind.. He DID NOT think of Ishita's inability to give birth when he said that... Because if he had,...he wouldn't have gone searching for Ishita right after that... He wouldn't have been worried about when he couldn't find her... When he spotted her, and he felt something was wrong with her, he tried to cheer her up... He didn't know why she was just sitting alone out in the bench but when he saw her, he could sense she was a little upset.. And though he didn't know the reason why..he didn't even waste one second in trying to bring her back to her normal JhansikiRani mode... Have you guys forgotten?! He was the same RamanKumarBhalla who ditched her at the first party... then went away leaving her behind... But today, he made sure he NEVER left her side..

Sadly, it's you guys who thought of Ishita's inability to give birth...and started hating on Raman.. So if there's anyone you should hate..it should be yourself... Because what you accused Raman off..is exactly what some of you'll did...

And what's so wrong in Ishita telling Raman to respect Shagun?

Any civilized person would have said the same thing..Couples who have been divorced do share a cordial relationship even after they have separated... It's just that Shagun is a bitch and that's what annoys us all...but it's pretty obvious now, that she's not going away and we can't avoid her... So what can we do...just stay in one corner and sulk??! No matter what happens...life goes on.. You can choose to stay in one place and be stagnant but Time doesn't wait for anyone...

Ishita basically helped Raman move on once and for all... Raman's hatred for Shagun, in one way or another has always held him back from moving forward...to having a happier, brighter future.. His hate for Shagun is kinda..Shagun's passport to tormenting and torturing him..AND finally Ishita made it clear to him...

Ishita is not acting like a mahan by saying so... Ishita knew how much Raman's hatred and anger for Shagun was ruining him...

Anger clouds the mind and hatred blurs the vision... And when Ishita said, he should respect Shagun... I felt it to be a closure for Raman in terms of Shagun and his bad past... The respect, how I see it as is CLOSURE... And with closure comes PEACE & LOVE... Peace clears the mind, Love restores the vision...

Shagun was in a way having control over Raman all these years..how?..through his hatred...She was able to affect his mood with even the slightest things she does... We should STOP letting people who do so little for you, control so much of your mind, feelings and emotions... <<This is exactly what, Ishita made clear to Raman today...

We need to stop getting all overly emotional for some lame ass thing and start acting sensible like how ISHRA...

Stop over analyzing each and every thing... Learn to be more practical... YHM is depicting reality and ISHRA are depicting how REAL people would be like... There was nothing wrong in today's episode..in fact I LOVED how much they have progressed along all these months as a couple.. They started this journey as Raman & Ishita but now they are continuing the journey as ISHRA...

P.S. Seeing how the forum goes haywire because of minor things reminded me of this; People will question all the good things they hear about you but believe all the bad without a second thought...

-Shiva/Shivu

Res:)
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I dont like it that I am terribly short of time. I would have loved to write a Ramayan (correction- Mahabharat) reply for this one. Anyway, I'll try to express what I have to say as succinctly as possible

Shivu... need I say ? apt post... I havent read the 5 pages of comments, but I am sure your post sparked a healthy debate.

Now, my take on the first half of yesterday's epi was:

I saw a father being manipulated (very cleverly) by the mother of his child. I saw a father reminded of the happy moments he'd shared with the mother of his first-born. I saw a father feeling guilty for not paying enough attention to renew contract which was something he had smartly 'invested' in a long time ago.

I saw the mother manipulating the father of her children to trap him into a web of guilt, shame and regret. I saw a mother using a child as a pawn to fulfill her narcissistic tendencies. I saw a regretful woman not letting a man move on, only because she hasn't been able to.

I saw a woman not being sure of her place in a man's life. I saw a woman who heard a conversation between a former couple. I saw a woman see that former couple reminisce the happy moments in their life and immediate feel the pain of her emptiness. I saw a woman who knew she couldn't participate in that kind of happiness with that man, irrespective of her 'adopting' his children.

So, long story short, I was completely void of any negativity when the episode finished. I did not see anything that I had objection to. I said this is another post, but Shagun was so good yesterday that I even felt sorry for her for a minute.

Everything Raman said and did was in the context of being a father. At least that's what I took away from the episode. Everything Ishita said and did was in the context of her being a caring woman, a woman who is more a mother than Shagun will ever be. What is there to hate?

Ishita and Raman are frankly 2 broken souls. They need to heal. Whether they love each other or not is neither here nor there. They are 2 broken people put together into a triage room with all the equipment to fix their wounds. How they pick up the various medicines and apply them on each other is what this story is all about. So, again, whats there to hate?

I would have not liked it if Raman didn't even find out that Ishita had heard his conversation. I would have nor liked it if Ishita had bottled up her pain and put on a smile yesterday. But still, I wouldn't have hated either of them.

P.S: One thing keeps coming back to me. Raman-Shagun's conversation was entirely about Aditya, no? There wasn't any mention of a second child at all, or I missed it. Anyway, what I am trying to say is, IF Raman was indeed still 'in love' with Shagun, wouldn't he have talked about ALL happy memories? Why only talk about Adi's birth? That was the biggest clue that moulded my response to the episode. Adi is his first-born child. and no one (i mean NO ONE) except Shagun could share that happiness with him, right? Even Ruhi's birth didnt evoke the same memories. Even if Ishita had a child with him, that child couldnt be his first-born, and that holds special place in any parent's heart no? Am I making sense here?

Very well needed post...👏

well tdys episode did hinted the future of YHM...which is very scary and typical ekta route...

Well said ..and I don't mean to oppose ...but

Originally posted by: Mages

well tdys episode did hinted the future of YHM...which is very scary and typical ekta route...

Ishra scenes were beautiful and emotional...very very meaningful...its the best Ishra scenes till date...touched my heart...and raman had tears seeing his wife goodness nature...

what disappoints me is raman obsession for adi...its going to create lots of trouble since the shagun knows adi is his weakness...and she is going to use adi as the weapon...which is not going to be liked by any of us...the obsession is really a danger sign...

Why hate Raman why hate ishu?
This is not done .
Raman is still fighing with his past demons come on he loves adi so he has association with shagun he was her ex .
Relation won't break with a small paper like divorce emotion runs through them to .
Spa queen is not a saint she has ruin it with her own hands . Seeing Raman she can't bare the fact she is sidelined and so is adi so she tries all tricks .
Raman his anger towards shagun has a top priority he is dealing with it slowly.
Ishu is forced to welcome shagun and adi in her married life because end of the day he is son of her hubby .
Why she says to treat shagun as a human is to move on forget his past and kill all aggressive emotions be normal to shagun its true what she said no emotion no more hate .

Kids are the main factor for ishra .
They have only this Devine friendship growing day by day love has many meaning they need not get physical without that love can be expressed that what u see in ishra .

well said post!!! i felt lile depressed but i saw the episode 2nd time and understood!!! lovely matured handled episode...

Originally posted by: ForbbidenLove

Thank you so much...Yes it was an lovely scene...

@Bold, I'm sorry but how is that disappointing??

You guys are being bias towards Adi just because he is not in favor of Ishita... Let's be real here..

Adi is Raman's Son yaar... Of course his Son would mean everything to him... I see no wrong in him being obsessed with his Son... My parents are 100000 times more if I were to compare them with Raman's obsessions...

Yes, I too don't really like Adi.. but I'm not gonna disregard the fact that he is Raman's Son.. Strangely, even ishita had accepted Adi so I think it's about time we all did... AND Yes, Shagun will use Adi in the future but I don't think ISHRA is that weak to let each other go.. It's not at all going to be easy but that doesn't mean that it has to end in a bad way...

I can't tell you how much I agree with your post, am a change100% sure Raman might have meant the I can never become a father dialogue in a sense that ishra don't share a physical relation. Infact I was happy that he talked to Shagun to me that proved he is a good father, because he could argue with Shagun on the matter, tell her she shouldn't care, but instead he chose to say he forgot. I loved what Ishita said because it is something I truly believe, you hate a person, love a person they both will have an effect on you and that is what Ishita told Raman, she told him to except Shagun asthe biological mother of his children, it wasn't like she said go and marry her again.