Missed the point

I agree, I didn't think the melodrama was necessary. If he actually focused on building a relationship with Ishu, then Ishra's combined vibration would raise to that of a united and committed couple and she wouldn't even want to go bother them.

exactly
raman should never have danced with shagun
it has ruined his character big time
he is behaving worse than param
karan/raman is acting like a pervert

Interesting thought, Raman is still very spiteful towards Shagun and I feel he enjoys creating a scene or insulting her more to satisfy himself than to prove a point to the rest of the world. It's probably in the Bhalla genes because Simmi and Toshiji enjoy creating a scene too. Everyone in the crowd knew what relation Shagun and Raman have shared in the past and so I really think he doesn't need to put on a show for them but I feel somewhere, he is still seeking closure to the Shagun chapter of his life. Everyone on the forum talks about Raman being in love with Ishita but I still feel he's not there yet, yes, there is a lot of respect, admiration, appreciation in him for the kind of person Ishita is and he is getting used to her being the life partner/wife that Shagun was not but love, I don't think that has happened just yet. I think when Raman is genuinely in love with Ishita, he won't feel the need to pick a bone with Shagun or let her delusional thoughts affect him because he would be so much more at peace with himself and his relationship with Ishita. At this point, Raman still seems very vulnerable and seeing Shagun every time opens up old wounds for him. Maybe once it all heals Raman might just be able to remain unaffected by Shagun's existence :)

Originally posted by: -veronica-

exactly
raman should never have danced with shagun
it has ruined his character big time
he is behaving worse than param
karan/raman is acting like a pervert

Ah...please, don't mention Karan as Raman's character. I donno much about Karan in real life. But whatever I have seen him from interviews, he is not at all Pervert. So, it's only Raman who is doing wrong things😕.

Agreed!


I don't have much against the Raman and Shagun dancing together --Raman out of spite and Shagun out of a sense of conquest, but it could have been portrayed differently in a manner that was more natural to the plot and the characters, instead of what appeared to be sheer misogyny couched in a lofty rhetoric of teaching one woman a lesson at the cost of another.

These dynamics were an interesting repetition and reversal of the last time there was a dance in YHM --during the holi function. Then, Raman had already made his point that a dance shared between a married couple was special, and proceeded to use a confused and angry Ishita to prove his point.

Here too, we have more of the same dynamics, this time with two women being used by Raman to grind his various axes. Both are dropped by him, one figuratively when he states at the beginning that he would not dance with her, and the other, literally, in the middle of the dance.

Raman's philosophical observations the dance, and its symbolism regarding the two women in his life --his past and his present was at best awkward and at worst downright tasteless. It was neither the time nor the place for airing such musings in public, and would have definitely made the guests ill at ease, and taken the limelight away from the two couples who were there to get engaged. Although he apologised to Ishita later and requested her to walk with him step by step in the dance of life, it was insufficient to assuage the public rejection delivered by Raman just moments earlier. We know that Ishita is very sensitive about being rejected and, although rather resilient, emotionally speaking, does not recover easily when she is rejected.

Finally, the gap between Raman and Ishita's public presentation of themselves, and their private lives is larger than a crater on the moon. In private, they struggle to express themselves even for the most basic things. They are so busy playing savior in others' lives that they have a wall of unaddressed issues separating them. Ishita retreats to her speeches, and Raman to his one-liner zingers, and in this way they proceed, moping and coping along with each other. Instead of playing PDA -PDA (public display of affection), these two should work on at least having a civil relationship one on one before they foist their version of an ideal companionship on another audience.

Also on the main forum:
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/ye-hai-mohabbatein/4033530/dancing-with-the-stars-crossed

I agree. When n whether they want to lead a proper married life together is their business, but all this spectacle was totally uncalled for.

Also don't forget Raman was drunk, that impairs judgment and makes people do unnecessary things, so I don't think they did miss the point, he wanted to insult Shagun after everything she said and alcohol just heightened it and made him do something he definitely shouldn't have done. he wanted to prove a point in front of her and everyone else. You could see he enjoyed doing that and wanted to spite her after her cheap words to him. To be honest I'm glad he did it, I wanted to see that happen to her but at the same time poor Ishu got really hurt.

He just made clear.point in front of shagun to realised her place in his life. If he did dance with only ishita than shagun would have think he is trying to make her jealous.

Originally posted by: -veronica-

exactly
raman should never have danced with shagun
it has ruined his character big time
he is behaving worse than param
karan/raman is acting like a pervert

Lol. He wasn't being a pervert because he wasn't trying to sleep with her or anything. But it was wrong for him to announce in front of everyone that Shagun was his first love then humiliate her when it was supposed to a party for Mihir and Trisha. If he wanted to humiliate her then he should've done it after the party in front of his family or something instead of in front of a huge group of people.