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Posted: 17 years ago
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Poor little Miss Tanya has put that brilliant brain of hers to work, deciding to plunge down and die? (or at least I thought) This is Tanya in action. Applause, applause everyone.



This move is just brilliant, just so dramatic, just so like her. I am sorry I am not sympathetic about her. I am more sympathetic when an advertisement for St. Jude's Children's Hospital comes on or when children don't have a shot in life (food, education, etc). As you know, I didn't like Tanya before, and this is not going to help matters. At this point, enough time has passed that I think she needs to take charge of her life a little bit and STOP acting like a stinking six year old, or the mental equivalent thereof. Yes, the rape caused her to go in shock, and she is in a lower level of shock these days if at all; I've seen her smile enough, and "move on" as you Trish-Deep fans like to say to Trish. Yes, Tanya feels guilty about Yuv which SHE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD. She never put up a fight against Yuv's idea. Little Miss Tanya was looking clueless as usual. So, booh, hooh Tanya. May you reach heights never reached before.



Oh, BTW, Tanya is NOT the first woman to find herself in this situation. Not everyone goes plunging down a canyon or hill. And please stop calling it as a result of shock. She is in pain, she is in shock. I haven't heard a word so overused since "axis of evil". And, yes, when something horrible happens, life will be different, but you have power in your own hands after some time. But come on...so many people in our forum defend her, citing shock, and this explanation is wearing rather thin. She a nice young lady, I agree, but I figure half the world is nice at minimum, billions and billions, so it's not like a unique selling point with me. Matter of fact, I'm going to throw this comparison out for you: Trishna would show kindness and protectiveness, even at her expense. Just because a person thinks about themselves doesn't automatically make them selfish. How is her looking in a mirror or her thinking about the ring she wants or what she and Yuv should do selfish? Is she taking anything away from anyone? NO! Now, we have the "perfect", angelic Miss Popularity Tanya. If in a situation, where her decision can hurt others, would she be "unselfish"? Surely! She'd always put everyone first before herself. Let's look at this whole terrible situation of her rape, and doodle-brain Yuv wanting to marry her. Don't tell me he's noble and kind. Remember for some good to happen, bad things must come too. She was in "SHOCK" but she damn well knew where she was and what was going on. And the kind, unselfish, Miss Tanya -- ooh, I neglected to add "in shock"-- decided to think of herself and spare her family at the expense of pain to her sister, TAKING SOMETHING AWAY FROM TRISHNA. Who was she to make that decision? And Tanya wonders why Trish hates her guts? I would too! When there is no truth between sisters, then you're really not sisters. Going on with this charade to this day, is a testament to her confusion, shock, or selfishness???. What Tanya did is just not right, no matter what happened to her. Was she in so much shock that she forgot her sister Trishna? And Yuv--I will save my scathing review for another day. Complete dip-sh*t, I have ascertained. Remember when he told Deep and Trishna to dance to bring them closer. Well, I could see him saying Deep and Trishna, go to your room and have fun! But inside, he'll be telling himself he did the right thing 100%.



So, much to my dismay, Yuv will come save her and say "Baby, don't worry that little head of yours. I am here for you. I will support you forever or at least until you reach age 16." Mean of me, right? It's part mean, part jest. Then Yuv, with his mental telepathy and core inner knowledge of what is right and wrong, will say "Let's figure out what is the best for everyone's happiness (is that trademarked btw?), and let's not forget your OB-GYN and Kanaiya. We need to take their happiness into account too. It's not just about you and me, Tanya. We have to sacrifice ourselves to maximize society's well-being, bring happiness here and there, and everywhere. You'd think he was Tinkerbell or something--flying around in tights but throwing pixie or happiness dust. Bravo, Mr. Yuvraj, Bravo, indeed! When I have you to watch, I don't need Disney.



Kul--I'm putting this here because I was reminded today of how much I DESPISE her. When people say she loves her daughters and wants what's best for them, forget it! She may love them, worry about them. But she wants what's best in her mind. And that is money. And she is brutal about it. I have not seen too many tears, only smiles when looking at her daughters' sad faces, as if this was her master stroke. I hope she is reduced to tears so bitter that nothing will stop them. She truly is Mommie Dearest, if you know what I mean--a nut job and ambitious, not too far from Nupur, who too obsesses over Deep and what is best for him.



I am harsh here because I cannot stand too much stupidity in TV shows. But that would be an oxymoron, right?. However, I have tired of Mr. Sensitive Yuv, precious, gentle little ponytails in hair Tanya, and the ambitious mother to 4 girls Kul (she has yet to destroy the other two's lives, but we all know that will come later) and this story. Yes, Kanaiyah will come back and either Yuv or Tanya will inadvertently kill him. Until then, I have to suck it up. I'm just bitter I think -- about Trish and Yuv.
Edited by gp00 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I have never seen such a long comment on a update before.😳 go ahead take all the frustration on tv out. I really think you should quit watching indian soaps. Soaps= drama and conflict. If everyone acted like the way you wanted we won't have a show. Tell me do u guys (trish/yuv) get immense pleasure by bashing Tanya.

Originally posted by: gp00

Poor little Miss Tanya has put that brilliant brain of hers to work, deciding to plunge down and die? (or at least I thought) This is Tanya in action. Applause, applause everyone.
Let's not talk about brains here. The right thing to do would be abort the baby. But as we already know Tanya is emotional, she does everything with her heart and not brain. It must be hard for her to know she is carrying a piece of the monster who ruined her life. Or maybe she doesn't have the strength to kill a child. And she finds it easier to kill herself. Atleast the good hearted girl thought about someone else (YUV).

If we really want to talk brains lets talk about genius trish. Who can't start thinking why exactly was she betrayed and doesn't really care.WHY on earth did her lover leave her or her sister who is quite loyal and doesn't have the heart to kill a mosquito betrayed her. OR why her mother who hated Yuvraj was all of a sudden start taking him as " Ram". Now that's case where one might want to use her brain.


This move is just brilliant, just so dramatic, just so like her. I am sorry I am not sympathetic about her. I am more sympathetic when an advertisement for St. Jude's Children's Hospital comes on or when children don't have a shot in life (food, education, etc). As you know, I didn't like Tanya before, and this is not going to help matters. At this point, enough time has passed that I think she needs to take charge of her life a little bit and STOP acting like a stinking six year old, or the mental equivalent thereof. Yes, the rape caused her to go in shock, and she is in a lower level of shock these days if at all; I've seen her smile enough, and "move on" as you Trish-Deep fans like to say to Trish. Yes, Tanya feels guilty about Yuv which SHE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD. She never put up a fight against Yuv's idea. Little Miss Tanya was looking clueless as usual. So, booh, hooh Tanya. May you reach heights never reached before.

Don't worry. I am not sympathetic toward Trishna either😆. Whatever sympathy I did feel for her is gone. It's good you are sympathetic toward those unfortunate children. If you didn't I would think something was higly wrong with you. It's a natural state. Just like it would be natural to feel sympathy for a woman who got raped and is carrying the rapist child. You are mad at Tanya for making the decision? it's her life she can do whatever she wants. Unless you are concerened as her devoted fan it shouldn't bother you.

Stinking six years old don't try to kill themselves over honor. She was recovering from her shock and now it's a new trauma. She is pregnant. She did put a fight against Yuv. Oh you are hurt because she didn't succeed ?? oh well too bad! Give the girl a break. She went through physical, emotional and a spiritual trauma. The fact that she opened her mouth couple of times is her greatness. And no she ABSOLUTELY shouldn't feel gulity over Yuv. That's again her goodness that she feels guilty. She didn't invite Yuv to come and marry her. Yuv came on his own and decided to stay. She told him to go away. He is not a kid. He knows what decision he makes.


Oh, BTW, Tanya is NOT the first woman to find herself in this situation. Not everyone goes plunging down a canyon or hill. And please stop calling it as a result of shock. She is in pain, she is in shock. I haven't heard a word so overused since "axis of evil". And, yes, when something horrible happens, life will be different, but you have power in your own hands after some time. But come on...so many people in our forum defend her, citing shock, and this explanation is wearing rather thin.

I assume you are surrounded by those ladies who have experienced similar situations. I am a counselor for girl's youth club. And most of the time rape victims do behave like Tanya. No they don't have Prince Charming like Yuvraj to come and save them but they do stay quiet. Just because she smiles doesn't mean she is over the trauma. She is out of the shock but realistically rape victims don't come out in a month and announce they were raped.

She a nice young lady, I agree, but I figure half the world is nice at minimum, billions and billions, so it's not like a unique selling point with me. Matter of fact, I'm going to throw this comparison out for you: Trishna would show kindness and protectiveness, even at her expense. Just because a person thinks about themselves doesn't automatically make them selfish. How is her looking in a mirror or her thinking about the ring she wants or what she and Yuv should do selfish? Is she taking anything away from anyone? NO! Now, we have the "perfect", angelic Miss Popularity Tanya. If in a situation, where her decision can hurt others, would she be "unselfish"? Surely! She'd always put everyone first before herself. Let's look at this whole terrible situation of her rape, and doodle-brain Yuv wanting to marry her. Don't tell me he's noble and kind. Remember for some good to happen, bad things must come too.

No the world is not nice. The world is usually mean. You must be looking at the world from a different color glass. Because we all know as days go by most people only think about themselves and no one else. Trish thinks about herself before others (typical) , it doesn't make her a bad person but Tanya thinks about others before herself and like it or not that makes Tanya a total angel. Are you feeling bad Tanya is miss popularity here and not Trish? Sorry to say this but the girl has pure goodness beaming out of her. Which makes Trish plain!

She was in "SHOCK" but she damn well knew where she was and what was going on. And the kind, unselfish, Miss Tanya -- ooh, I neglected to add "in shock"-- decided to think of herself and spare her family at the expense of pain to her sister, TAKING SOMETHING AWAY FROM TRISHNA. Who was she to make that decision? And Tanya wonders why Trish hates her guts? I would too! When there is no truth between sisters, then you're really not sisters. Going on with this charade to this day, is a testament to her confusion, shock, or selfishness???. What Tanya did is just not right, no matter what happened to her. Was she in so much shock that she forgot her sister Trishna? And Yuv--I will save my scathing review for another day. Complete dip-sh*t, I have ascertained. Remember when he told Deep and Trishna to dance to bring them closer. Well, I could see him saying Deep and Trishna, go to your room and have fun! But inside, he'll be telling himself he did the right thing 100%.

I am trying to understand why you can't get a grasp of the picture. Tanya didn't go and seduce Raj. She didn't even go to him for a solution. If she asked him to marry her or even hinted and he did it I would think she stole her sister's love. But Yuvraj married her. Yuvraj became her husband and said he is staying with the marriage. She didn't take her sister's love, the love came to her! The only fault she has here is she didn't open her mouth and explain the situation to her sister. She tried , she was unsuccessful! Given her situation and state it's understandble why she couldn't open her mouth. That's reality!



So, much to my dismay, Yuv will come save her and say "Baby, don't worry that little head of yours. I am here for you. I will support you forever or at least until you reach age 16." Mean of me, right? It's part mean, part jest. Then Yuv, with his mental telepathy and core inner knowledge of what is right and wrong, will say "Let's figure out what is the best for everyone's happiness (is that trademarked btw?), and let's not forget your OB-GYN and Kanaiya. We need to take their happiness into account too. It's not just about you and me, Tanya. We have to sacrifice ourselves to maximize society's well-being, bring happiness here and there, and everywhere. You'd think he was Tinkerbell or something--flying around in tights but throwing pixie or happiness dust. Bravo, Mr. Yuvraj, Bravo, indeed! When I have you to watch, I don't need Disney.

What's your problem with self righteousness and sacrifice? Bravo to Yuv indeed 👏! He saved his best friend/ brother's life who couldn't live without Trishna. In your perfect self serving world you might've liked Yuv when he marries the girl right infront of his best friend/brother but in my world I would lose respect for him. Next he gave his love over to a great guy. I would hold a grudge if it turned out to be a gunda but Rajdeep is a great guy who loves her. Next now you will scream IT 'S NOT HIS DECISION TO MAKE. Last time I checked one had total freedom to breakup a relationship if the reason seemed right to him. He didn't sign a contract with Trishna. Breakups happen. It was trishna's decision to marry Rajdeep.
She wasn't drugged. If you are going to sue the guy for breaking her heart sue everyone. I am sure almost all of us have broke someone heart before.


Kul--I'm putting this here because I was reminded today of how much I DESPISE her. When people say she loves her daughters and wants what's best for them, forget it! She may love them, worry about them. But she wants what's best in her mind. And that is money. And she is brutal about it. I have not seen too many tears, only smiles when looking at her daughters' sad faces, as if this was her master stroke. I hope she is reduced to tears so bitter that nothing will stop them. She truly is Mommie Dearest, if you know what I mean--a nut job and ambitious, not too far from Nupur, who too obsesses over Deep and what is best for him.

It was evident in today's episode the lady thinks money= happiness. But she does love her daughters. The problem is she think money will bring her daughter all the happiness. Stupidity on her part.


I am harsh here because I cannot stand too much stupidity in TV shows. But that would be an oxymoron, right?. However, I have tired of Mr. Sensitive Yuv, precious, gentle little ponytails in hair Tanya, and the ambitious mother to 4 girls Kul (she has yet to destroy the other two's lives, but we all know that will come later) and this story. Yes, Kanaiyah will come back and either Yuv or Tanya will inadvertently kill him. Until then, I have to suck it up. I'm just bitter I think -- about Trish and Yuv.

I understand! the whole frustration comes because your fav couple is separated!! Sad to say I don't see them together in near future (or ever)

cheers!
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Posted: 17 years ago
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thanx..tanya is trying to commit suicide??
hope raj saves her in the correct time..
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Fatima I loves how you said, " share your cents on Sujatas marriage and Tanyas upcoming suicide." lool funny! hahaha 😆..anyways...Thanks for the update!!!
and...I think Yuvraj is driing fast cause he wants to try and stop Tanya from commiting suicide. Makes sense right?
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Glad to u have back fatimaa🤗
FabbUlouss Updtt as alwayss...too gooodd...Keeepp it up!! Love ur commentss👏👏 Keeepp it upp👏👏 Thanks Aysha for doing the updtes🤗
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: gp00

Poor little Miss Tanya has put that brilliant brain of hers to work, deciding to plunge down and die? (or at least I thought) This is Tanya in action. Applause, applause everyone.

Lets be real...no human being is perfect we are emotional being too.....I have real life examples where it happened....and actions can bewrong but motivation matters....its not as imp to be always right in mind but heart is more imp.....what if sheis only thinking with mind.......emotional situations does affect people u cant change it ......if urn't like that please dont generalize the idea.......generalization comes when we have examples....I dealt with rape victims.....I know how they feel....

This move is just brilliant, just so dramatic, just so like her. I am sorry I am not sympathetic about her. I am more sympathetic when an advertisement for St. Jude's Children's Hospital comes on or when children don't have a shot in life (food, education, etc). As you know, I didn't like Tanya before, and this is not going to help matters. At this point, enough time has passed that I think she needs to take charge of her life a little bit and STOP acting like a stinking six year old, or the mental equivalent thereof. Yes, the rape caused her to go in shock, and she is in a lower level of shock these days if at all; I've seen her smile enough, and "move on" as you Trish-Deep fans like to say to Trish. Yes, Tanya feels guilty about Yuv which SHE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD. She never put up a fight against Yuv's idea. Little Miss Tanya was looking clueless as usual. So, booh, hooh Tanya. May you reach heights never reached before.

(again you cant take an idea and generalize it......rape victims are not in normal condition.....it take years to come out of it......and yes she is not supposed to feel guil coz thats not her fault at all.......I dont think marriage solved her probs.....but she needed support and its good to get it from people who know you....they usually reccomend family members....she is not a human right activist..she did what most of the girls would do...again its not that her motivation was to hurt anyone.......time and again the only thing she cared about was her family....also its not her fault to speak up or not most indian girls are like that thye are brought up like that.....ur emotions are shaped by the environment ur living in.......cultural values...family and all other institutions shape ur emotions and perception)


Oh, BTW, Tanya is NOT the first woman to find herself in this situation. Not everyone goes plunging down a canyon or hill. And please stop calling it as a result of shock. She is in pain, she is in shock. I haven't heard a word so overused since "axis of evil". And, yes, when something horrible happens, life will be different, but you have power in your own hands after some time. But come on...so many people in our forum defend her, citing shock, and this explanation is wearing rather thin. She a nice young lady, I agree, but I figure half the world is nice at minimum, billions and billions, so it's not like a unique selling point with me. Matter of fact, I'm going to throw this comparison out for you: Trishna would show kindness and protectiveness, even at her expense. Just because a person thinks about themselves doesn't automatically make them selfish. How is her looking in a mirror or her thinking about the ring she wants or what she and Yuv should do selfish? Is she taking anything away from anyone? NO! Now, we have the "perfect", angelic Miss Popularity Tanya. If in a situation, where her decision can hurt others, would she be "unselfish"? Surely! She'd always put everyone first before herself. Let's look at this whole terrible situation of her rape, and doodle-brain Yuv wanting to marry her. Don't tell me he's noble and kind. Remember for some good to happen, bad things must come too. She was in "SHOCK" but she damn well knew where she was and what was going on. And the kind, unselfish, Miss Tanya -- ooh, I neglected to add "in shock"-- decided to think of herself and spare her family at the expense of pain to her sister, TAKING SOMETHING AWAY FROM TRISHNA. Who was she to make that decision? And Tanya wonders why Trish hates her guts? I would too! When there is no truth between sisters, then you're really not sisters. Going on with this charade to this day, is a testament to her confusion, shock, or selfishness???. What Tanya did is just not right, no matter what happened to her. Was she in so much shock that she forgot her sister Trishna? And Yuv--I will save my scathing review for another day. Complete dip-sh*t, I have ascertained. Remember when he told Deep and Trishna to dance to bring them closer. Well, I could see him saying Deep and Trishna, go to your room and have fun! But inside, he'll be telling himself he did the right thing 100%.
(thats yuvs thinking...me andu we all do mistakes...but its human nature to make everythign right that u feel guilt for...I dont support the idea of him ruling trish's life now..but when he broke up he was commited emoitonally but he didnt sign anything agian for trish ur talking about emotion being.....a girl who has emotions dreams...but when it comes to tanya u talk about a perfectionist....who has control of situation...and who did everything according to her will.....trish had some chances atleast to do with her own will...like her marriage and she also consumed her marriage why didnt she speak coz she lil too.......you're talking about her emotions....but what about someone who is hurt physically,emotionally for her you want a perfect mind....but what abt trish who cant understand a sis she grew up with again both girls are emotional being...and trish made a decision to marry rajdeep it was emotional decision.Yuv broke up with trish thats his will..tanya stopped him even wen wedding was going on again.......iknow she cant marry with someone whom her sis loves...but even if she wouldnt have married her......yuv wouldnt have married trish ....that his decision...according to ur criteria he should be mr perfect coz he knows what to do with his life.)



So, much to my dismay, Yuv will come save her and say "Baby, don't worry that little head of yours. I am here for you. I will support you forever or at least until you reach age 16." Mean of me, right? It's part mean, part jest. Then Yuv, with his mental telepathy and core inner knowledge of what is right and wrong, will say "Let's figure out what is the best for everyone's happiness (is that trademarked btw?), and let's not forget your OB-GYN and Kanaiya. We need to take their happiness into account too. It's not just about you and me, Tanya. We have to sacrifice ourselves to maximize society's well-being, bring happiness here and there, and everywhere. You'd think he was Tinkerbell or something--flying around in tights but throwing pixie or happiness dust. Bravo, Mr. Yuvraj, Bravo, indeed! When I have you to watch, I don't need Disney.

(of course now he is her husband and they need to make mutual decisions.......what society says that u should not take help from your husband.......man and women are different in nature....man is more rational than women....psychology proves that.......and women rely on emotions...so they both balance each other.....ofcourse she needs help of her husband...he knows her heart...he knows her well...and know abt the situation..put yourself in her shoes...when u r in something ur a victim.......ur already effected by that thing...well the person who is seeing from outside is not effected by the same kind of decisions...hence any decision u would take alone would have impact of the situation ........would include ur emotions....coz ur the one who si effected...but someone who knows the situation and is not effected .........can help where the person is doing things out of the impact of the situaion......)

Kul--I'm putting this here because I was reminded today of how much I DESPISE her. When people say she loves her daughters and wants what's best for them, forget it! She may love them, worry about them. But she wants what's best in her mind. And that is money. And she is brutal about it. I have not seen too many tears, only smiles when looking at her daughters' sad faces, as if this was her master stroke. I hope she is reduced to tears so bitter that nothing will stop them. She truly is Mommie Dearest, if you know what I mean--a nut job and ambitious, not too far from Nupur, who too obsesses over Deep and what is best for him.
(well again kul is portraying indian mother she is not a perfect being......and dont genralize it but all mothers can be so wise....every human beingis different...I dont like her decisions personally but nupur doesnt have the same intentions as kul has....what matters is intention.......action does effect but good people also make mistakes...but there is a difference when u do it with or without intention..........again Im not saying one is superior over the other)



I am harsh here because I cannot stand too much stupidity in TV shows. But that would be an oxymoron, right?. However, I have tired of Mr. Sensitive Yuv, precious, gentle little ponytails in hair Tanya, and the ambitious mother to 4 girls Kul (she has yet to destroy the other two's lives, but we all know that will come later) and this story. Yes, Kanaiyah will come back and either Yuv or Tanya will inadvertently kill him. Until then, I have to suck it up. I'm just bitter I think -- about Trish and Yuv.

(Now I dont see the possiblity of YUV/TRISH...emotions can change with time.......well if u dont wanna watch these kind of shows then why do u want yuv/trish together...(it only happens in soaps......and sometimes in real life to but very rare....)you get married then u fall in love with someone else....and the other person is trying to forget u and is serious about his life and his friends wife a friend who is like a bro and then u eventually end up getting married to his wife......this can only happen in soap so if u expect those things u should not stop watching those shows)
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I apologize that my personal response has upset some people yet again, and about the record-setting long response.

Now, the idea that I should stop watching Indian shows, while well intentioned, is rather odd. No offense, but so what I have opinions and harsh ones at that about characters. I like to write and explain myself and where I am coming from. Whether someone likes it or not is their business. And I am in the wrong on some things.

I request those that read my "longest ever" and "hearthless" response to take a good look at my words and stay in context.
Please don't jump to conclusions...oops, should have stayed away from "jump" given the sensitive story line.

Quick thing I want to clear up things in my response. I want to make sure everyone gets it: I have to say that in terms of sympathy, I have a lot of it for any person who goes through rape--man, woman, child, whatever. It's an odious act of sick people who like to hurt and control. In my criticisms of Tanya, note I am not talking about rape victims in real life. As a viewer of a TV show, I am turned off with how they show Tanya and the events that transpired. Yes, victims stay quiet or withdraw inside of themselves, many times they never talk about it to anyone and suffer alone. Tanya is in a different case (Kul, Yuv). She is married now. So, one person's opinion of me as a misanthrope or misogynist is not correct. And, yes, I have a heart in real life.

That I am wrong on Tanya, that she did not try to seduce Yuv. I NEVER say that anywhere. I criticize her decision to not stop Yuv from doing this thing which would hurt her sister. She had a choice.

Yuv is honorable. Yes, if you call self-sacrifice to make some people happy and then others miserable, destroying their dreams and reality. I don't.

Trish is NOT slow. Yes, I would have asked questions of Kul. But she just got the shock of her life and in her mind, her sister betrayed her and Yuv was a sleazeball. And she is right to believe that 100%.

And, I like to get sarcastic about things on this show, because many times things are so exaggerated that it becomes comical.

Signing off.
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Originally posted by: gp00

I apologize that my personal response has upset some people yet again, and about the record-setting long response.

Now, the idea that I should stop watching Indian shows, while well intentioned, is rather odd. No offense, but so what I have opinions and harsh ones at that about characters. I like to write and explain myself and where I am coming from. Whether someone likes it or not is their business. And I am in the wrong on some things.

I request those that read my "longest ever" and "hearthless" response to take a good look at my words and stay in context.
Please don't jump to conclusions...oops, should have stayed away from "jump" given the sensitive story line.

Quick thing I want to clear up things in my response. I want to make sure everyone gets it: I have to say that in terms of sympathy, I have a lot of it for any person who goes through rape--man, woman, child, whatever. It's an odious act of sick people who like to hurt and control. In my criticisms of Tanya, note I am not talking about rape victims in real life. As a viewer of a TV show, I am turned off with how they show Tanya and the events that transpired. Yes, victims stay quiet or withdraw inside of themselves, many times they never talk about it to anyone and suffer alone. Tanya is in a different case (Kul, Yuv). She is married now. So, one person's opinion of me as a misanthrope or misogynist is not correct. And, yes, I have a heart in real life.

That I am wrong on Tanya, that she did not try to seduce Yuv. I NEVER say that anywhere. I criticize her decision to not stop Yuv from doing this thing which would hurt her sister. She had a choice.

Yuv is honorable. Yes, if you call self-sacrifice to make some people happy and then others miserable, destroying their dreams and reality. I don't.

Trish is NOT slow. Yes, I would have asked questions of Kul. But she just got the shock of her life and in her mind, her sister betrayed her and Yuv was a sleazeball. And she is right to believe that 100%.

And, I like to get sarcastic about things on this show, because many times things are so exaggerated that it becomes comical.

Signing off.

I think you said it that ur talking about characters..those character portrays real life people and cirumstances......and sometimes not ...but tanya is a real life story.......u will find tons of those
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Posted: 17 years ago
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thanks for the wonderful update
I cant tell you how much I liked the way you wrote. wonderfully described each scene.
the episode also was very good. dont know what tanya does next
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Originally posted by: gp00

I apologize that my personal response has upset some people yet again, and about the record-setting long response.

Now, the idea that I should stop watching Indian shows, while well intentioned, is rather odd. No offense, but so what I have opinions and harsh ones at that about characters. I like to write and explain myself and where I am coming from. Whether someone likes it or not is their business. And I am in the wrong on some things.

I request those that read my "longest ever" and "hearthless" response to take a good look at my words and stay in context.
Please don't jump to conclusions...oops, should have stayed away from "jump" given the sensitive story line.

Quick thing I want to clear up things in my response. I want to make sure everyone gets it: I have to say that in terms of sympathy, I have a lot of it for any person who goes through rape--man, woman, child, whatever. It's an odious act of sick people who like to hurt and control. In my criticisms of Tanya, note I am not talking about rape victims in real life. As a viewer of a TV show, I am turned off with how they show Tanya and the events that transpired. Yes, victims stay quiet or withdraw inside of themselves, many times they never talk about it to anyone and suffer alone. Tanya is in a different case (Kul, Yuv). She is married now. So, one person's opinion of me as a misanthrope or misogynist is not correct. And, yes, I have a heart in real life.

That I am wrong on Tanya, that she did not try to seduce Yuv. I NEVER say that anywhere. I criticize her decision to not stop Yuv from doing this thing which would hurt her sister. She had a choice.

Yuv is honorable. Yes, if you call self-sacrifice to make some people happy and then others miserable, destroying their dreams and reality. I don't.

Trish is NOT slow. Yes, I would have asked questions of Kul. But she just got the shock of her life and in her mind, her sister betrayed her and Yuv was a sleazeball. And she is right to believe that 100%.

And, I like to get sarcastic about things on this show, because many times things are so exaggerated that it becomes comical.

Signing off.



Regardless of whether you're talking about a tv character or people in real life, rape is a serious issue and shouldn't be trivialised. It is used way too often as a storyline but i think this is the only time an indian show is trying to represent the victim accurately. So instead of criticising the character's vulnerability, the portrayal should be appaluded.

Moreover, Yuv and Kul are NOT what you would call support for Tanya. He is still hung over his ex and too busy fixing his best friend's marriage problems to even concentrate on his WIFE! And Kuljet has NO IDEA how to handle such a situation which is why she stopped Tanya from telling her sisters who would have been the best support for her during this time!!! It seems like Kul feels that if it isn't mentioned, it never happend which is not the best thing in such situations.

TANYA DID NOT ASK YUV TO MARRY HER AND IF YOU RECALL THE INSTANCE WHERE HE PUT SINDOOR ON HER HEAD SHE WAS NOT GIVEN A CHANCE TO STOP HIM. She did try afterwards but to no avail. What do you expect? That while she comes to grips with whats happening to her she should spend more time focusing on the "injustice" done to her sister!
C'MON YOU'VE GOTTA ADMIT COMPARED TO TANIA'S SITUATION TRISHNA'S LOST LOVE SEEMS SOOOO TRIVIAL!!!!!!!

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