General Discussion Thread #3 - Page 37

Originally posted by: RainOfDew

Plz spare the moon.. she will give to him also how he should have air nd water to sustain human life

Both HM and Anupama will lecture the moon about how it should maintain it's axis along with the earth

Originally posted by: Pete15rogmourey

Topic 2;

Elders always tell us that God litterally scripts everything down about our life ( like what we're going to do , our life span our karmas) and we would be judged whether we deserve heaven or hell in our afterlife based on what we do on earth....this is such a contradiction ; If Bhagwan writes what we are going to do our entire life isn't he basically writting down the entire screenplay of our life? Like none of our decision, actions are actually ours but it is predetermined , so why are human beings given punishment of hell for doing exactly what god intended us to do? Why is the Writter punishing his characters for them behaving in the way in which he wanted us to behave? I thought ki chalo maybe this is a misconception and god does not have any control over the desicions we take in our life....but elders still keep insisting on the first point , so which is actually true?

OK finally answering this part. Took time since I wanted to give a detailed answer and wasn't getting time. This is only my view basis whatever limited I have read and studied religions

I think "God scripts everything" is in context with overall way forward of this universe, for us "we and I" are the most important things, but in the overall context of this universe we aren't even a trifle, what God scripts is the way forward of this universe, individual activities aren't so much a part of this longer plan (Abrahamic religions have the concept of "free will given by God", we do not have it but I don't think anywhere individual actions are driven by God)

To give an example what I do will not be the decision of God, but if somehow and someway my action is detrimental to the overall plan of universe running (even by a butterfly effect), then there will be some of other inhibitor planted by God which will ensure my activity's effect gets nullified, it will be only here when God will actually cause/create someone else's action (like if someone else who needs to do a thing to nullify me), in other words while my activities is not written by God (mostly), but the outcomes or results is as per Gods plan. This is a concept of predeterminism. In Indic thoughts there was an atheistic school called Ajivika who believed in this, even Karmanyavadhikaraste shkol of Geeta is indicative of that. "The Karma is in the hands of humans, the result in the hands of Gods", that I think clarifies that our actions are (mostly) our own and aren't written by God.

Yes if there is some case where God compels people to behave in way (as a part of larger plan), then the sins committed in that case will not be punished in afterlife, IMO that is the reason why Duryodhan got heaven.

Again my view, could be something else, otherwise it still very vague

I have a question over it, we now know that our activities are driven by our brain, so if we do something wrong its because our brain is functioning wrong, now considering God made us, and thereby our brains, doesn't brain functioning wrong mean that it is a manufacturing defect from God? So can God then punish us for a manufacturing defect of Its??

Our religion answers it by the concept of Atma, according to Geeta, our Atma has the power to stop our brain from doing as per itself, its we (which is our Atma) who prefer to let lose and go with the actions of the brain giving it full control and Atma isn't created by God so there punishment makes sense, but as per science we know that brain is solely responsible, so ....

What do you think

Originally posted by: Pete15rogmourey

Omg do read this

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/anupamaa/5336100/chandryaan-3-wooohooooo

If you ask me they should send BOTH Anupama and HM to the moon forever to give useless moral lectures in space

Kya hai ye

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Kya hai ye

Anupama fans wants to send away Anupama to the moon forever since the earth is fed up of her and i want HM of MS to go along with her too

Originally posted by: RainOfDew

Tell me in brief abt it

Trudo says they have credible evidence that Indian agencies have role in murder of a Canadian citizen (Nijjar who was a Khalistani activist) they suspended Indian diplomat to Canada and then we suspended Canadian diplomat to India

Then Canada released an Advisory for its citizen visiting parts in India (NE, J7K and Pakistan border),then we released an advisory for our citizens visiting Canada stating they "condone political hate crime"

Trudo said in a press release in New York (indicating that US too is leaning towards Canada) that they have reasons to claim this, then India suspended Visa for Canadian citizens

Wahi sab chal raha hai

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

OK finally answering this part. Took time since I wanted to give a detailed answer and wasn't getting time. This is only my view basis whatever limited I have read and studied religions

I think "God scripts everything" is in context with overall way forward of this universe, for us "we and I" are the most important things, but in the overall context of this universe we aren't even a trifle, what God scripts is the way forward of this universe, individual activities aren't so much a part of this longer plan (Abrahamic religions have the concept of "free will given by God", we do not have it but I don't think anywhere individual actions are driven by God)

To give an example what I do will not be the decision of God, but if somehow and someway my action is detrimental to the overall plan of universe running (even by a butterfly effect), then there will be some of other inhibitor planted by God which will ensure my activity's effect gets nullified, it will be only here when God will actually cause/create someone else's action (like if someone else who needs to do a thing to nullify me), in other words while my activities is not written by God (mostly), but the outcomes or results is as per Gods plan. This is a concept of predeterminism. In Indic thoughts there was an atheistic school called Ajivika who believed in this, even Karmanyavadhikaraste shkol of Geeta is indicative of that. "The Karma is in the hands of humans, the result in the hands of Gods", that I think clarifies that our actions are (mostly) our own and aren't written by God.

Yes if there is some case where God compels people to behave in way (as a part of larger plan), then the sins committed in that case will not be punished in afterlife, IMO that is the reason why Duryodhan got heaven.

Again my view, could be something else, otherwise it still very vague

I have a question over it, we now know that our activities are driven by our brain, so if we do something wrong its because our brain is functioning wrong, now considering God made us, and thereby our brains, doesn't brain functioning wrong mean that it is a manufacturing defect from God? So can God then punish us for a manufacturing defect of Its??

Our religion answers it by the concept of Atma, according to Geeta, our Atma has the power to stop our brain from doing as per itself, its we (which is our Atma) who prefer to let lose and go with the actions of the brain giving it full control and Atma isn't created by God so there punishment makes sense, but as per science we know that brain is solely responsible, so ....

What do you think

Wow such a nice and detailed answer. , thank you

I feel that our souls are in control of our brain and heart and acts as a judge between what's wrong and right....according to science heart and brian activity are nothing but electrical impulses which uhelp our body function but i feel that the souls and our thoughts are what drives us to do certain things....

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Trudo says they have credible evidence that Indian agencies have role in murder of a Canadian citizen (Nijjar who was a Khalistani activist) they suspended Indian diplomat to Canada and then we suspended Canadian diplomat to India

Then Canada released an Advisory for its citizen visiting parts in India (NE, J7K and Pakistan border),then we released an advisory for our citizens visiting Canada stating they "condone political hate crime"

Trudo said in a press release in New York (indicating that US too is leaning towards Canada) that they have reasons to claim this, then India suspended Visa for Canadian citizens

Wahi sab chal raha hai

What a coincidence even my mom was talking about this topic today...

Originally posted by: Pete15rogmourey

Wow such a nice and detailed answer. , thank you

I feel that our souls are in control of our brain and heart and acts as a judge between what's wrong and right....according to science heart and brian activity are nothing but electrical impulses which uhelp our body function but i feel that the souls and our thoughts are what drives us to do certain things....

Thankyou

@bold yes this makes sense, there needs to be some difference between living and non living things, call it Atma or anything else, everything cant be just impulses

Originally posted by: Pete15rogmourey

What a coincidence even my mom was talking about this topic today...

what did she say

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

what did she say

I was out of the loop about this one and she explained it to me and before she could say her views about it my 2 yr old nephew who was playing nearby peed and she got diverted

I for one don't get why Canada is blaming India....Indian took out a terrorist in their country , why send the indian diplomat back? shouldn't these people be thanking us?