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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: yakkudimag

Well..nothing wrong..but as they say.."Cut your coat according to you cloth"..very old saying..you surely know that.


Are you stating that just because Icha is a servant's daughter that she can't marry any man who proposes to her, unless he is of similar occupation or 'caste'?

I always believed that ALL people are equal. You surely agree to that?

So, where's the equality here?

Which book or law states that she isn't human enough to marry anyone she wants to?

Remember, it was Veer who proposed to her, (not the other way around) so, which book or law states that he can't marry a servant's daughter?

If two adults make a choice & are ready to marry one another, their legal guardians have also agreed then why the intrusion?

Outsiders have no business to interfere, obstruct or persecute someone else's marriage & life choices.
Edited by cluelass - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: cluelass


Are you stating that just because Icha is a servant's daughter that she can't marry any man who proposes to her, unless he is of similar occupation or 'caste'?

I always believed that ALL people are equal. You surely agree to that?

So, where's the equality here?

Which book or law states that she isn't human enough to marry anyone she wants to?

Remember, it was Veer who proposed to her, (not the other way around) so, which book or law states that he can't marry a servant's daughter?

If two adults make a choice & are ready to marry one another, their legal guardians have also agreed then why the intrusion?

Outsiders have no business to interfere, obstruct or persecute someone else's marriage & life choices.



Even Before this topic of discussion could arise there should be a topic dedicated stating "Thakur's should 've been more human like"🤢 Let's sort things out from the very beginning. We'll get to the marriage later.

What About Murder? Child labour ? Slavery? Mental harassment?? After the so called Thakurs can come up with these answer's then comes the whole topic of marriage. Also the latest fact. Extracting labor from Damini and not paying her money🤢
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Well the fact is Tapu is a vamp of the show and Ichcha is the main +ve character.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: cluelass


Are you stating that just because Icha is a servant's daughter that she can't marry any man who proposes to her, unless he is of similar occupation or 'caste'?

I always believed that ALL people are equal. You surely agree to that?

So, where's the equality here?

Which book or law states that she isn't human enough to marry anyone she wants to?

Remember, it was Veer who proposed to her, (not the other way around) so, which book or law states that he can't marry a servant's daughter?

If two adults make a choice & are ready to marry one another, their legal guardians have also agreed then why the intrusion?

Outsiders have no business to interfere, obstruct or persecute someone else's marriage & life choices.


Well written Cluelass...😊.

This saying is for spending money according to one's affordability and is meant for commodities and not for human emotions like love. Veer is not a toy or a prized commodity that only rich Thakurs should have. Cupid finds his targets everywhere in this world with out the distinction of class or caste or religion. That is why we have great love stories and even in real life there are instances of Kings abdicating their thrones for the love of commoners.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: yakkudimag

All we see in Uttaran..that Ichha is always giving,loving,sacrificing.But is that really a desirable scenario?She always tried to act like a superhuman being,a Goddess, at the end who just gets sympathy,feeling of pity..we must judge her actions on a logical point of view. I agree Tapasya had done great wrong things,but those were out of anger,jealousy..which are normal human instincts,but did Ichha act like a normal human?Trying to be the Goddess is can also be treated as a Non-Human act.If we see the Veer-Ichha-Tapasya case..we can see a great deal of Ichha's idiocy.We must see from the starting...when Veer came to meet Tapasya..

Tapasya avoided Veer..agree..she imposed Ichha on Veer..agree..but it was on Ichha's hand that to be or not to be imposed on Veer.She also could avoid Veer just like Tapasya..or she could have told the truth that Tapasya was not interested in Veer..that was why she was acting like this.Was that so difficult for Icchha to tell Veer straight forward .She always advocated for Tapasya in front of everyone,was that so hard to make Jogi understand that Tapasya was not interested in Veer..and Veer could stop visiting Thakur Family?Instead of that what Icchha did..everyone know that.

After falling in love with Veer..Icchha knew very well that Bundela family would not see this alliance with a good eye,not only for the class difference but it looked odd ,Veer went for Tapasya ..and he picked servant's daughter..if Icchha would have been a first cousin to Tapasya,that time also..it looked like an odd scene.You see in any normal house hold..where arrange marriages are done,other unmarried girls mix up when the entire rituals of marriage with the groom..to avoid such kind of condition.

When you are in love ,you have much more responsibility to that person than anyone,specially when you decided to marry him.What Icchha did?She sacrificed for whom?For Tapasya.What about Veer?How much injustice she did that time with Veer?Didn't she know how Veer will react?Who was Icchha to take decision alone?Why didn't she count on Veer's side?What was she trying to show?On what cost?The cost was Veer's life.

She knew very well that Tapasya-Veer alliance was not going to last,but she let Tapasya to marry Veer..and again she stretched the matter by marrying Vansh.Who was Icchaa to again decide about Veer's life?Who was she to 'save' Tapasya-Veer alliance?Any normal girl would have been in a safe distance from that people with whom that kind of incident took place like Iccha went through.There were so many volunteer in this city,so many rehabilitation centre in city,when Ichha came to know that Vansh is from Bundela house,all she needed to join another organisation to offer her services.Who was Vansh?Nobody ..but Icchha mixed up more,rest is history.She didn't even think about her self respect that she was getting married to that double standard family who always bashed her for her lower class background.

Every time she hurt Veer,in the name of her friendship to Tapasya..or any humanitarian cause,Veer got hurt by Icchha..and Ichha claims that she loves Veer, selflessly...doesn't it sound like a joke?Every time Veer was kept aside by Ichha for her humanitarian cause ,now Veer is giving attention to Tapasya according to his humanitarian cause,doesn't it look like a full circle of life?

Icchha is having a marriage with Veer without any legal aspect,as per I can remember no paper of divorce were signed between Tapasya and Veer..legally Ichha's marriage to Veer has no value.According to Indian Penal Code,she is the other woman in Veer's life.

She hurt Veer when it was not needed,but now when Veer must know about his infertility ,she is not telling him the truth so that Veer doesn't get 'HURT'.Icchha always escaped from the truth,she is the one who is concealing more and more facts from the starting day of Veer-Ichha-Tapasya fiasco .


I always wonder about Rathod's feelings to Tapasya.Why Tapasya?When Rathod know every thing about her.Tapasya is slamming him like hell.In my wildest imagination...Rathod can set up such scene that Veer-Tapasya can live happily ever after..and he can get Ichha..but Rathod will not..no other man will try for Ichha..they can surely try to get Tapasya.

The reason is very simple..Tapasya just focuses on that person ,no matter what people say..which is a very important part of a successful love life,you love someone,be with that person,stand by with that person,no matter how the situations are odd.You can only make things right when your own life is in your desirable mode.To make a love nest one must be a bit selfish..always charity , humanity ,that is surely not a way to have a good love life,charity,humanity are some great parts of our life,but when you make it your whole life,then it becomes a burden,a cause of irritation.Ichha has reached to the optimum level of that kind of irritation,and Veer is the biggest sufferer because of her.

Tapasya is evil ..that can be agreed,but Ichha tried to be Goddess by her actions.. that is more evil.That is why I can relate with Tapasya as she is more human unlike Ichha.




Hmmm I think that both tappu n ichcha r extremely unreal ...no I dont sympathise with any of them ...Tappu is disgusting & Ichcha is irritating ..both r commiting the same follies

Tappu 's demands r unjust , she is mean, plotting , & cant see beyond her obsession ..she keeps commiting crimes n has no conscience

Ichcha is obsessed with greater common good that she fails to take logical decisions ...she is scared of doing anything that can cause a commotion n some how she is burdened by the fact that she owes a lot to Jogi

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thank you everyone for your positive feedbacks.

Agreed Arunima about Tapasya. If Icha was so 'good' then she wouldn't be so dishonest & hide the truth from her husband. If she can force Veer to marry Tapasya and deceive him, and then force him to remain in a separated room from her after marriage and accept Tapasya living in the same house against his wishes, without any consideration to his feelings, she is not naive that she can't tell him the whole truth about the medication...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think the characters are all about 'extremes'...therefore it is difficult to apply logic or common sense to what either Ichcha or Tapasya's characters have done or will keep doing...cv's have not found the secret potion of making this serial remotely believable.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: groucho

I think the characters are all about 'extremes'...therefore it is difficult to apply logic or common sense to what either Ichcha or Tapasya's characters have done or will keep doing...cv's have not found the secret potion of making this serial remotely believable.


I agree. I don't know what's happening with this useless show right now, because I haven't been watching for the same reasons as many others. I do know it's only about material interests by making a career out of wasting people's precious time on worthless entertainment.

If the CV's continue on and on with their mockery of our intelligence, I certainly hope Tina leaves before this show ruins her name, health & life.

Take care all,

Peace

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: cluelass


I agree. I don't know what's happening with this useless show right now, because I haven't been watching for the same reasons as many others. I do know it's only about material interests by making a career out of wasting people's precious time on worthless entertainment.

If the CV's continue on and on with their mockery of our intelligence, I certainly hope Tina leaves before this show ruins her name, health & life.

Take care all,

Peace




CVs think viewers r mental retards ...

like Veer was accused of Rape ..though teh girl was untouched by him dunno how which medical test confirmed rape ...we knw medical tests examine both the persons

n now a guy does not chek earlier reports ..goes fopr a fresh new test without even consulting Doc ...laughable 😆
Edited by arunima_luvdsky - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Arunima, the CV's have definitely LOST it!

We should now move on and do better things with our precious time :)

Regards

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