My take on Sukor

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think more than the people who watching it on TV,we feel it more be it happy or sad scenes. Because of all the analysis and discussions, we got more connected to them though they are fictional characters.
I'm saying here very practical view of mine about Sooraj,not want to compare him and Chakor and lessen her pain.

So if you put aside,how Sooraj can do that,how can husband think of doing it and what might she going through and all the other emotional thoughts.
The truth is Sooraj lost his memory and he is not the real Sooraj we admired in Sukor right now.

We all had faith in him like Chakor,she expected him of, the old Sooraj.
The Problem lies there,if you take the case of Chakor,she always has a positive approach to problems and never give up attitude.
She believed her love can able to change him and there is of course changes in him.

But she never takes his memory loss serious so far and was playful around him most of the times.
He did gave her warning of he can't deny the orders of his masters.
The real problem of him is still untouched.
Or rather CVS didn't give insight into the depth of his problem to feel us connected to him like why exactly he reached to this level.
But i'm sure this is breaking point in both of them.
As Sooraj feels guilty for first time.
And Chakor after her shock and her pain reduced,definitely will try to figure out what exactly happened to him.
I know many feels,Chakor shouldn't forgive him and all.
What he done to her is wrong but she very well know that he is not in his senses.
So she has to find out what had happened to him and as a wife,she can't left him in the middle.
Especially someone likes Chakor who ready to go any extent to help the people around her
So will she give up on her husband easily ?
Sooraj as a husband failed yesterday but that doesn't mean that she should give up on him as its only him forgot the past and not remembering the depth of their relationship.
But she is the same person.
She knows how far he will go to save and protect her,if he is in his real self.
So I will be disappointed if Chakor give up on him,because i'm sure if the situation is reversed and Chakor is suffering from some serious issue,I know the real Sooraj never leave her or give up on her.

To be precise,
If you are not thinking too much and view it,both Sooraj and Chakor stand in their characters yesterday.
Chakor who always positive of getting him back,believed that he can't harm her and that shattered her completely.
Whereas Sooraj who used to obey the orders of Imli do the same.
But things will change soon and he will correct himself and ultimately Chakor's dream of getting him back will win against Imli's evil motives.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Correct Bini... Even i have taken the same approach...
Now the makers should give us an insight into what Hyar have actually done to suraj!!! High time... No logic in simply saying memory loss...memory loss... Why is he a zombie today is what we should know...

Again I am not justifying him but really want to know how could he???
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Posted: 7 years ago
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sorry bini ! I could not find any sort of justification for what I saw yesterday. I controlled a lot not to write anything about yesterday's episode as it was sick and downright disgusting..but kya karein..I ended up logging in to comment..Suraj has Memory loss but not us viewers ! how much ever we convince ourselves to view him as a new person, it's hard, atleast for me to forget how he was before and that he is the Male lead. I said that day too and I am saying it again..it's not about chakor, his patni..it's about a woman's dignity..As chagan rightly said, this could happen to any girl tomorrow... and I felt like whipping Imli when she kept repeating shiksha shiksha..what the heck is that?? her shiksha is to indignify a woman by removing her saree?? sorry it's highly highly gross...I can't find any reason to sympathise with suraj..nope ...what was that expression of his, seeing chakor?? like, how dare he had the guts to even look at her eyes after doing such pukeworthy act?? again, had it been shiku or others, then it's well expected.. but suraj, who seems to be supposedly unwilling to do what he was asked to do, I felt like slapping him for looking straight into chakor after that act..and mahiya bg really made me uneasy..like seriously ..can I feel for this jodi like before?? not sure..Only solace was kasturi and chagan..bastiwale always need someone to poke them to do what they are supposed to do on their own..but better late than never..before chakor is fully stripped these people came to rescue (sorry I am so pissed off ! ) this is what VJ meant by his "almost on right time" in his interview..
Now whom to blame? the writers for writing such vile stuff? the actors for acting this? or us viewers for watching this?
(sorry..I don't think actors are always compelled to do what they are asked to..once I read, karan patel refused to act in a sequence in which he had to be beaten up by goons..
How these actors are doing this kind of stuff, that too in front of so many people is still surprising for an old school person like me..even in Mahabharat show I did NOT see this much stripping..So I don't find any reason to appreciate yesterday's episode in anyway)
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Great post bini, the mistake that fans and Chakor made is treat him as old Suraj, her husband who was devoted to her. This one has no connection to old Suraj except looks and name.
I don't think they'll ever go into great details about what happened to Suraj, simply because his condition is unrealistic, in real life no one can have his personality completely wiped off like this. They'll show some flashbacks of torture or injections but nothing to satisfy us.

I think Chakor should stay away from Suraj until he starts changing, he has to take the initiative, at least to calm fans down. This is not her husband, not after yesterday. Also, he needs medical attention and to take him to a doctor, their relationship needs to improve a lot from where it is right now.

Since this is a different Suraj, he has to go through his own redemption journey before he gets Chakor, only then will he get back his memory.

This show is as much about how Chakor's love keeps changing Suraj to the better whenever he falls low, as it is about Chakor's fight for freedom.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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We aren't meant to sympathize with Suraj, maybe only for how much he's changed but nothing more. This is just to show his current reality. They went too far and it may backfire.
Their intention to say that Suraj will change from a terrible creature who'll do whatever he's told with no consideration to right or wrong, to kindness or gratitude to a good person. It's just that many now don't care if he changes or not.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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it really is interesting to read all the takes on what is shown in the show. good time to come back to the forum i guess😳.

not watching the show and got no connection with the characters. hence my views are as neutral as they come.

Suraj didn't just fail as a husband. he failed as a HUMAN.
we can say this is memory loss; head trauma, physical or mental abuse, medical harakiri but what won't change or negate the fact that he stripped a woman off literally off her robe and her dignity because he was told to do so.
a women who happened to be Chakor. someone's daughter, sister, friend and a human in her own right.
what makes it worse that she showed him kindness and mercy and care even when he thinks of her as a stranger and this is how she gets repaid.
and what makes it worst that she is the girl he has professed to love and protect for a lifetime.

ANY trauma of his justifies the trauma she has been put through?

does Suraj as a character has any inherent goodness? human decency? a smidgen of light? or it is always upto Chakor to drag herself to hell to guide him to heavenly lights?

well this is a fiction. and they are selling a love story. so girl can't and shouldn't give up on the guy. but what i for one can't understand is why should he be justified or excused or be understood?

his past, his pain, his trauma, his old self and love are secondary.
what is primary is ... can his act be justified?
had he shot her or aimed to kill her that was understandable and debatable but THIS?


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Posted: 7 years ago
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I JUST GET A RELIEF FEELING BINI WHEN I READ YOUR POSITIVE POST...😛yes friend sukor has their on justification but the yesterdays episode shows some extra dose which willbe shatters our beliefs regarding suraj in his point of you there is no way to obey his hyars...anyway after this suraj turned tobe change and as you said chakors will get his suraj and her life back...once again thank you
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I respect the views of everyone.
I'm not defending his action but only is condition.
This is the level they made him to a person who used to adore his wife.
This is what CVS trying to convey.

He is not human to have humanity to him.
He is drugged and traumatized into this level and aggravated further by severe punishments.
Whatever little changes he had shown so far is because of Chakor,because of the goodness he had deep inside his subconscious mind which is suppressed.

When we compare real Sooraj with this one,there is even 1% of similarity is there.
Whatever little emotions left in him,he feels guilty of his act and his condition needs to cured.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Excellent one bini... You echoed my post i shared but in simple words..
Yes we are traumatised as sukor are mainly the mess created by makers...

She is a victim due to his deed

He is a victim of his circumstances


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Posted: 7 years ago
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I respect your views bini but i will be disappointed in Chakor if she goes behind him.after this. If at all he makes a positive move for her, then maybe i will be ok in seeing her help him out, for humanity sake because its Chakor we are talking about.
But she needs to put her self respect over everything else right now.
Bini if situation was reversed and Suraj would have been humilated like this by Chakor, i am sure suraj supporters wont want chakor anywhere near Suraj

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