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Eatifi

@Eatifi

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Posted: 8 years ago

ONE HUMBLE REQUEST-GO THROUGH THIS POST WITH A COOL MIND,WITHOUT BEING JUDGEMENTAL

So,I had to took an entire day off,due to some reasons.And my whole day was passed fidgeting my phone.

My feelings is not hidden from anyone here,and from last night I am terribly feeling nauseating from last night.Tried to shove off the feeling,but it is not going.Well.but thats not the matter,everything will soon come back in normal self and I will be fine.

So,the 7th april Udaan episode seems to be breaking the internet,entire day I went to various forum topics,of first and previous pages reading everyone's comments.I went through telly updates and their comments,Udaan and sukor instagram,Udaan and sukor fanclubs.

After going through everything,I felt as if the an earthquake happened,,,,"har taraf haha-kaar macha hua hai".

Each and every such social networking sitye seems to be divided into various uncountable categories..."Suraj lovers"..."Suraj bashers"..."Chakor praisers"..."Chakor haters'..."Heart-broken Sukor shippers"..."Angry Imraj fans"...and so on...

Our forum had also more than enough discussions,on the unfortunate episode.

I myself freely expressed my views,but I really think I need to write my take on the "Suraj-Imli" conversation,being a third person,not taking any sides nor criticising any,,,,,just as a neutral viewer,without being judgemental,only honestly typing what I felt...but in doing so I will definitely try considering all the points of arguments that had been disturbing everyone.

Ok,to start with...I have no issues with the fact that Suraj was not desperate to meet Chakor unlike her.Yes,Chakor is madly in love with Suraj,but whenever we got to see the intensity in her emotions or her passion,it was only when SURAJ LIFE IS IN DANGER...and the girl does impresses each time in pouring out her love...but Suraj did'nt had even one percent idea that Chakor's life is at stake,still when she thought of him,he felt as if she was calling him...A BEAUTIFUL INSTINCTIVE ROMANTIC SOUL CONNECTION...and i loved it,even she assured him that she is fine,so there is really no point in questioning Suraj's care for her or his desperation to meet her,loved the dialogue of his,"Ae Chakor,tum thik toh ho na...???".

And then,for viewers misfortune their car's tyre punctured and they were left with the option of spending the night in the deserted road itself...and their comes the various points of arguments...

1.Suraj coming to the back seat,ABSOLUTELY FINE...If you are alone with an acquaintance like in their situation,its pretty normal and ok to sit side by side,it would have very rude,if they had sat on different seats.

2.Imli starting the bachva topic...SUPER FINE...no matter what,Suraj and Imli were the biological parents of the lost child,and even whatever happens,its really hard to forget it...[my own family had to go through this,5 years ago my two bhabhi,one my own and one cousin were to deliver in two months gap..my cousin bhabhi gave birth to a baby boy...my own bhabhi also gave birth to a baby boy but unfortunately the child died few hours after its birth...today my bhabhi is a proud mother of a 3 year old boy,still today also my mother sometimes recalls the unfortunate incident and says..."Aaj agar woh hota,toh school jaata.."...even as a 'bua',I sometimes get reminded of the child,so what my bhabhi must have been feeling,its beyond explanation[...

In the same way,Imli was the mother and after all she is a woman,she really cant discuss this with her husband,considering the fact that he was not the biological father...and she certainly could not have discussed this with Suraj at any time out of awkwardness...they were alone.and she felt it was the right time to vent out her curiosity...so NO PROBLEM WITH IT...

3.Suraj remembering the lost child's age...PERFECTLY VERY MUCH OK...its easier to say but one may really not understand ant feeling,untill and unless we have to go through it.And perhaps majority of us may nit understand the feeling of Suraj coz,we have not experienced it...WHAT FEELING A PARENT HAS FOR ITS CHILD,FOR ITS OWN BLOOD,FOR OTS OWN 'ANSH'...so its better not to get petrified at Suraj's attachment and love for his own child.

I still remember.how come he started to feel for his child,He always had a very bitter relation with his father,so much so that during the initial days of marriage,once Chakor had compared Suraj with his father,at which he had very angrily warned Chakor...not to ever comment on his relationship with his father.

Suraj,all of as sudden started to feel for his child when Imli had said to him..."TUMSE TOH TUMHAARE SAGE BAAP NE BHI PYAR NAHI KIYA,TUM DONO MEIN KOI FARQ NAHI HAI,USNE APNE ITNE BADE BACHHE KO JAAN SE MAARNE KI KOSHISH KI AUR TUMNE APNE A-JANME BACHHE KO USKI MAA KI KOKH MEIN HI MAARNE KA SOCHA...!!!".

These lines must have been terribly hurt him,coz he hates his father as he never ever loved him,the way he wanted to be loved,so perhaps he wanted his own child to show off this to the entire world that THIS HOW A CHILD SHOULD BE LOVED AND HE IS NOT LIKE HIS FATHER.

4.Suraj comparing Chakor with Imli,,,and claiming "Imli to be more mature than Chakor"...NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT...

I just loved Suraj,the way he explained Vivaan's state of mind,and for once I was very happy when he said that he still wants that power,coz for a fraction of a second I got to see the glimpse of My old Suraj...whose ambition is still to gain power,but this time not to glorify ownself but for everyone's sake of happiness.

There is no need to bash Suraj by saying that he insulted Chakor coz,he was absolutely honest in that context,This is a fact that he knows as well as respects Chakor very highly and Chakor may love him deeply but SHE NEVER UNDERSTOOD HIS VALUES...she really does not understands the importance of 'power',And Imli being his partner in those days when he used to be the son-cum-goon of KN,does understands this.

Suraj in no way,insulted Chakor in front of Imli...coz how much he values her is not hidden from anyone.Dont forget that it was suraj only who openly said that,he likes,,,,,,"TEDHI LADKIYAAN"... like Chakor when she had compared herself with Imli.

5.Imli's "hamaari shaadi aapse ho jaati" dialogue,POINT OF CONFLICT...It was solely her fault,it felt as if she was regretting her present state,as if she was not at all happy in her married life with her so-called 'sachha pyar",,,Vivaan.

Suraj did highly disappointed me,as he should have said something in order to make her realise that whatever happened,was for good and she is at present Vivaan's wife,and she even claims to love him as well.

But still,I could forgive him for this,for he did not reacted and behaved as if it did not matter to him at all...on a different note,,,,HE HANDLED THE AWKWARD SITUATION IN A SENSITIVE AND MATURE MANNER.

6.Suraj not remembering Chakor...MADE ME HIGHLY UPSET...even the day in the cowshed when Imli was sharing her problem with Suraj and he consoled her bu hugging him...even the day when Imli had come to give a pillow to Suraj...even in the fair when he was left alone with Imli...what I simply loved is the fact that SURAJ WAS NOT AT ALL AFFECTED BY IMLI,AND HE HAD ONLY THOUGHTS FOR CHAKOR...

But sadly,NOT FOR ONCE HE WAS REMINDED OF CHAKOR OR A THOUGHT OF HERS REMINDED IN HIS MIND when he was having a conversation with his ex-flame.

7.The final touch...RIPPED ME IN PIECES...ok she was terrified at the sudden noise if thunder and lightening,but she SHOULD NOT HAVE TOUCHED HIS HANDS...It was good at Suraj's side that he ensured her of her safety,,,,,BUT I WANTED HIM TO IMMEDIATELY REMOVE HIS HANDS...BUT INSTEAD HE TOUCHED HER BACK...it was just not needed for consolation.

8.and the eyelock...SHATTERED MY SOUL...the moment seemed so weak for both Imraj...the way the scenes was been shown,it seemed as if on one hand,Chakor was building her heaven of heappiness...and at the very same instant her palace of hopes was collapsing,that too at the very handfs of her soulmate,,,to whom she is dedicating her entire being...the romantic music,the winds blowing,during that eyelock,,,,sealed the fate of THE UNFAIF SURAJ-CHAKOR ONE SIDED LOVE STORY...

So guys,this was it...It is perhaps we all very deeply attached,or had been super obsessed with Suraj-Chakor that we all are feeling so musch heart broken.

I really want to ask this from the writers,why the hell they had to show an eyelock between Imraj followed by them sleeping in each other's shoulders,how come it was in any way crucial for the story.They had themselves made the once villian,Suraj everyone's hero.Then why show him involving in this kind of infedility.

They could have shown,Imraj being stuck in the car,some genuine healthy conversation...and amidst all Suraj terribly missing Chakor.Then if when Chakor would have doubted him,then at least we all have sympathised with him...

There were many sweet sukor scenes to come up...like the two singing,Chakor playing a prank on him,the two fighting over petty issues,them entering their newly decorated room and so on...

BUT AS A CRAZY SUKOR SHIPPER AND A SURAJ LOVER AFTER THE FRIDAY EPISODE,EVERYTHING IS SEEMING SO MUCH FAKE...AND AS A HEART BROKEN FAN I AM ONLY LEFT WITH A GAPING VOID WITHIN...for the Imraj conversation,not at all seemed as a casual talk between two old friends,it seemed more likely as TWO EX LOVERS LAMENTING THEIR FATE AND REGRETTING FOR THE POSITIONS...

This show can only be justified,if they keep Suraj single and bring on a good looking,golden and honest hearted new lead for Chakor...WORTHY OF HER LOVE AND PURE EMOTIONS...for If the story continues as Sukor then It would be the the most inhuman,unjustified and unfair love story in the history of indian television.

Especially,for the angel Chakor...after the Imraj eyelock and them sleeping on each other shoulder's,patching up Suraj with Chakor would be equal like A VICTIM MARRIED TO A RAPIST...

So,guys for the last time,I will humbly request everyone to express their views on this controversial topic...without taking any sides,as a third person,without being judgemental and opinionated.

Please guys,just for once,try to think in an entirely different manner,and take yourself out of whatever category you all belong,..."Suraj lover or basher"..."Chakor praiser or hater"..."Sukor shipper or Imraj hater"...

Please guys,I am really required to know everybody opinions after reading this post...else I would turn insane...

I know nothing fruitful will follow,but two things may surely happen-

1.Our forum rank may increase.

2.our povs may get some more edge and refinement...

so guys,go on and be free to express yourself...

-Rabia.

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Etna_Dia

@Etna_Dia

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

I agree with your points, Rabia. I have found nothing improper with them discussing the baby. I regarded it as a good thing because I hated to see how they were both having fun as nothing has ever happened when their baby died just a few months ago.

The eye lock and the whole "hot" atmosphere were created to produce confusion. They are not going to tell us just like that if Suraj is the father or not. They imagine it will be fun to keep us guessing if they did the thing or not. But I don't suppose they realize how much damage they've cost to Suraj's character. If this had taken place before he would have fallen in love with Chakor, maybe it would have been acceptable, but now there is no excuse for him to be so "lovely" with his ex.

Suraj is a lost cause for me since he was the father of the first kid. And nothing else matters to me, it will not affect me if they get another hero. I hope they bring one who has been vaccinated against Imli so that he will be immune to her charms. Chakor should never allow him to come close to her sister, she is a very dangerous woman. They can try for a twin brother of Suraj, that will be fun.

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Riddhima

@Khushi_Dillse

Dazzler

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Posted: 8 years ago

Aaahhh that's my girl...come on give me a hug darling...

I agree with your some points...I told you yesterday imli and suraj conversation (I don't like there name togather imraj 🥱) is healthy convo between two best frds dekho imli and suraj talk about satta, power, chakor, imli's vivaan, tina and child...so what kabhi kabhi wo sari baaten aap apne best friend se hi kar sakte ho jo aap apne life partner se bhi share nahi kar sakte like chakor and vivaan, vivaan shared his secret to chakor not imli k he is impotent...Or waha to chakor side Hugging him and console him...tab to kisi ne kuch nahi kaha...I know somebody say imli and suraj has past but both not love each other at the time like vivaan and chakor...I too hate there eyelock but for me imli is not smiling there she is scared and she want protection from suraj and suraj console her that's it...that's not mean I like imli I too hate her coz for ne she is most selfish character in udaan she want attention everytime from everyone...she switch her side anytime jaha use fayada lage...uss useless vivaan se bhi zyada bekar...

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vvvvvvvvv

@vvvvvvvvv

Beginner

Posted: 8 years ago

😊rabia thanku 4 the post really felt good reading the post and i also agree to you and i also think that its not suraj fault always but yaar sach mein kasamh se i am hating imli even more after yesterday's epi and considering new spoilers and olv's i just wish ki yeh imli chakor ki sautan na ban jaaye

and yes i'm a sukor shipper imraj&imvaan jodi hater chakor praiser and above all a suraj lover

every word of u just reflects my feelings yaar woh episode dekhne ke baad i thought on it a lot and i derived conclusions from all angle of the situation we being sukorians can never withstand imli coming in b/w sukor

and i have a suggestion to all the episodes of udaan that now air on rishtey is the jailor yadav wala episodes and sabse khushi ki baat yeh hai ki sukor's first hug coming up the next week

i think its best to watch rishtey than wasting time behind the craps going on and that imli and her 'gud cum bad' news spoiling sukor romance so in tolerable😡😡😡

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Tara_Vjian

@Tara_Vjian

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

Rabia dearest big *hug*from my side for starting such.an amazing post.

We can for once have an healthy discussion.

i do agree with you in some of the points

For me suraj was and never be in love with imli

they just look dur k friends to me

about the hand touch part..in my view Suraj was just consoling the scared devi🤣

about the eye lock which dint look like an eye lock to me

cv's have this habit of finishing friday episodes at crucial point so that we wait for monday episode

so about this will speak after the episode airs..

and about Suraj not remembering Chakor the conversation is not over yet.

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needuraj

@needuraj

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

The moment I heard abt the car breakdown I knew that bachuva 2 s coming to eat our brains
I even made a post also .

But i holed that suraj mighy be missing chakor all the time wishing she was with him and not imli . And sleeping outside the car or front seat

Still I hope the part starting from the storm s a dream of vivan . And wr will see a horrified vuvan waking up calling naaiii after that eye lock scene.

And one question . Someone mentioned taht suraj will lie to chakor about their sleeping position thay he slept on back seat and imli on front seat . Is that correct ????? If yes then he IS feeling guilty ??

One more thing is for vikor even though chakor was heartbroken they had a healthy and mutual breakup .on the other hand for imraj there was no such a thing .suraj went all pagal( I never watched those episodes so my opinion s based on all forum topics that time ) and wen he confessed imli rejected him rudely and then after that he just made peace with imvaan and then he was himself buzy with kn and all . So never a proper closure. So atleast this new bacha track can give us a proper closure . And also make a clear point that n future even if imli become sinhle or available his feelings to chakor will not change and he continue loving her and her ONLY .

And the eye lock and everything like I mentioned n one topic. T was to confuse trp aunties and make then doubt the possibility of suraj the father of second child .

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Kavya

@Kavi.Kapoor

Rocker

Posted: 8 years ago

Firstly dear ...it was nice reading a partial take on yesterday's episode. I do agree with some of your points, but here's where I don't ...1. Suraj remembering his child - too little TOO LATE! When Imli proudly announced she was pregnant, Suraj refused to acknowledge that he was the father, instead he downright denied it! Only when Vivaan happily accepted the child - Suraj felt a pinch in his side. Lo and Behold, OVERNIGHT he's in love with Imli and wants to be a family with her. Imli falls ... and Suraj points a gun in the doctor's face : "SAVE IMLI, NOT THE BABY". So now u count how many months and days your kid would've been. I don't feel the emotional connect!2. Imli started her "bachua" story, was fine! BUT WHAT THIS THE TIME TO DO IT? Both your partners are absent from the scene, it's nearing night, you're stranded God knows where, the weather is overcast and gloomy ... SURVIVAL should be on the top of the agenda, but you reminisce about the good old days. Imli and Suraj were abandoned at the mela. Not a good place to talk I guess🤔 ... too many people around, not a romantic environment, what will people say if they held hands in public, what will people say if they shared a moment-too-long eyelock ... and above all - if they got into such a serious conversation at the mela, how would they then enjoy their ride on the Ferris Wheel!!!!SORRY - I tend to get sarcastic at times!!!3. Suraj not remembering Chakor ... I was stunned that she never crossed his mind. You claim to love her, YEAH RIGHT!!! I thought very highly of Suraj (only God know's why😕), but the truth is - he "loves" both sisters, it's a switch he puts on and off, depending which 1 is in front of him at a given moment!That's it, my rant for today! I thought that I calmed down since yesterday ... obviously I didn't🤔. That's what happens when you lose a night's sleep for a stupid show!

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nemo316

@nemo316

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

I didn't think they were two lovers lamenting their past, but parents of a deceased child mourning his death. If you had two divorced parents for example aren't they allowed to remember their dead child together?

There was nothing romantic not even personal about their talk, how can that be unfaithful to Chakor? What do people consider old lovers reminiscing old times? He was holding her hand because she was scared and sad, nothing else.

In one of the olvs he was going to confess to Chakor just Imli announces her pregnancy why should I doubt his intentions and feelings?

And about the new baby, it's one thing thinking he is still in love with Imli, it's a completely different thing thinking he'll sleep with a married woman. I believe in his redemption, he wouldn't do that.

Since his character turned positive, Suraj has always cared for Chakor, the only thought he had on his mind when he was tied to the tree assuming KN will kill him is to ask her to take of herself. But now when he's consoling Imli his former right hand woman and the mother of his child it's a betrayal of Chakor?

And by the way, I didn't like the eyelock or her sleeping on his shoulder but I'll need more than that to think he's still in love with Imli.

People have different views and perspectives, no problem. I'll go with the narrative of the writers without second guessing them or projecting my own assumptions on every single scene and so far I don't see that Suraj doesn't love Chakor.

I'd say the best thing is not to discuss it but to take sometime off and then watch the whole sequence including this Monday's part and then see how YOU FEEL, because if you don't feel ok with it no discussion will ever change your mind; it will just make you angrier. People will always be partial to those who share similar views. It's a positive feedback loop that just confirms your own views; the more divisive the issue, the stronger the effect.

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aamias

@aamias

Rocker

Posted: 8 years ago

If in real life anyone's husband does it then actually I read that ppl swap sisters I think mahesh bhatt want to show that sleeping on same bed with ur husband how would one feel ?

Talking about kids I don't know how many divorcees who are in friendly relation also talk about it but fine they were in so much love with the baby . Chakor is angel marrying her with suraj Suraj who once threw money on imli slept with her without caring for the girls sentiment it was so not rape according to court marry ing the victim with rapist is crime but we forgive him his repentance was fine but now again if u r lying to chakor it means he is wrong he knows that . the mental torture is also domestic violence And tomorrow if chakor suraj will beat her u will say how immature.

for survival as a ncc cadet just bulshit who goes to cow shed don't go out of the car lock the car and sit there is the best don't talk other things every girl must know this. Next I don't expect much from mahesh bhaat .

he loves infidelity stories like naamkaran disgusting where one could have physical relation but cant speak about it goes on marrying others all ppl blame the mother but a man is not that spineless actually he plays victim he loves it he was the one who married not the other way round . and we also love it so it is running can't blame anyone .think about how u feel if u found this for ur daughter or urself or u then comment this is what we want our society to become television is an important media change it twitter it or else woman will always be second citizen. Men will do infidelity at ur back while u will just think how good he is? I have seen ppl talking about this have a husband who loves them cares for them but don't know how is life but there is karma so don't worry this serial will show more good things and we will praise it as a lawyer I have seen ppl saying rapist toh bacha hai maaf kar don , ladki chote kapre pehenti galti hai , mera bacha mera hai . if u had a son ur dil runs away I understand it as u should know adultery is not a crime sc told. So plz don't blame suraj and imli. Suraj is the one who married chakor not other way so blamming only imli is disgusting.

If this is a dream then it is the best part or else I think this serial sucks and mahesh bhatt all serial sucks

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Etna_Dia

@Etna_Dia

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

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Originally posted by: -K.Kapoor-

but the truth is - he "loves" both sisters, it's a switch he puts on and off, depending which 1 is in front of him at a given moment!

This was always Suraj's main problem!

He was eyeing two sisters at the same time!

Before marriage, when he was apparently in love with Imli (because he was secretly keeping pictures of her in his bedroom), he was shamelessly flirting with Chakor right in front of her. After marriage when he was declaring his love for Imli and saying that he wants her back, he was still not missing a chance to have an eye lock with Chakor or gazing at her. All of these made me lose contact with this character. Putting aside the idea that it is absolutely disgusting to desire two sisters, I have never understood what exactly he wants/wanted: one sister or the other.

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