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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Banjaaran.



i am the only oddity here. but i think even Ragini deserves a second chance.

when Suraj after all the kaands he did could redeem himself so beautifully she too deserves a fair chance.

yes i find the actress atrocious. weak link in the stellar cast. but the character has her own pathos.
father who never stood by her.
no mother.
step mother from hell.
NO one to call her own.
all that mental and physical torture. Suraj atleast had his mother taking care of him. Ragini had none. most of the things she has done she did it for the love and approval from her father. just the way Suraj used to do his bidding. for the love of a father they should have disowned at first go.

why she hates Suraj? He as her brother should have been her protector. that's what are big brothers for. to protect and cherish little sisters.
no matter how much i love Suraj he did fail her. but then again he was failed by his own set of parents too.

Ragini did lot many many crimes. wronged Suraj SO much. but i for one want to give her one more chance to turn her life around because as a little girl she has shown some shades of genuine goodness i guess. circumstances and choices were wrong.


You aren't the only one 😛

Ragini was a really good kid. So if Suraj can be redeemed, she can too.

Also I don't hate characters unless they try and mess with my OTP. So I've probably disliked ImVaan more than the trimurti thus far.

The fact that Ranjana said she's more heartless than KNR himself and that somewhat psychotic behaviour she displayed makes me think she won't be redeemed. I'm talking from the viewpoint of the writers of a daily soap, mind you, not a generalised statement about actual people with actual mental illness.

I guess Chhagan will team up with our Scooby gang and lead Rags on and when she finds out she won't take it too well.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Banjaaran.

#random thoughts.

why Chakor uses harsh words and high standards for Suraj and gives a free pass to the rest of the thankless brigade of family and villagers?

that's because she treats him like her equal. he affects her in such a way.
and he mirrors her.

Imli, Vivaan or even his mother should try going.. gadha, pagal, pakhandi on him and lets see how far he will let them go.
he won't.

he lets ONLY Chakor in.

these two can give it back to the world what it deserves if limits are crossed but usually Chakor especially lets the world be. for the rest of the world doesn't affect her the way Suraj does.

These two are the only ones who can bring both best and wild sides in each other out.
hence the reactions are extreme.
and immediate.

rest of the world has to wait for its turn.



I missed you, Nimmi 😳

Honestly I don't get the Chakor hate. Yes she didn't hesitate to give Suraj a piece of her mind when he was a villain because they hated each other for years and he'd been nothing but mean to her. Now when she gets miffed at him and calls him names...isn't it what everyone does? We'd all be more comfortable speaking our mind, with no filters, to our closest friends (although these two go way beyond 😆).
She can't possibly hurl the same insults at the basti kakas and kakis or her parents. The whole kunwa incident was the first time she's even been angry at them, that too on Suraj's account, so that really says a lot about how much she loves him.
The whole "tumne Shikhu ko goli kyun nahin maari?" coming from her says even more.


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Banjaaran.

#random thoughts.

why Chakor uses harsh words and high standards for Suraj and gives a free pass to the rest of the thankless brigade of family and villagers?

that's because she treats him like her equal. he affects her in such a way.
and he mirrors her.

Imli, Vivaan or even his mother should try going.. gadha, pagal, pakhandi on him and lets see how far he will let them go.
he won't.

he lets ONLY Chakor in.

these two can give it back to the world what it deserves if limits are crossed but usually Chakor especially lets the world be. for the rest of the world doesn't affect her the way Suraj does.

These two are the only ones who can bring both best and wild sides in each other out.
hence the reactions are extreme.
and immediate.

rest of the world has to wait for its turn.


Nimmi🤗
Me thinks, the word is "huq". Suraj and Chakor have that right on each other. We usually have a loose tongue with our nearest and dearest ones. As we take them for granted. Thats because we know that no matter what, they will be with us like a rock. But that's not the case with the world. We have to be polite with people Coz they are outsiders. You very aptly said that they are each other 's mirrors.

Don't have my computer with me as it has gone for repair. My only Sahara is my mobile. So do forgive the typo errors.
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Posted: 8 years ago
I think I have read a few posts here saying that Ragini deserves a second chance, becoz she was wronged as a kid
I think all of them were wronged in some way or the other and the main culprit is KNR and all 3 of them had / have their share of joining him...
But did any of them killed someone ????? I want to know, coz I read somewhere that Ragini killed ppl
And I agree : If Suraj can be redeemed and later on crybaby will be redeemed than why not Ragini ????

BUT...just like Suraj is getting punished now for all the wrongs he did, I want Ragini to get punished too , before she can be redeemed and the same goes for crybaby too..., coz whatever Ragini is doing now with Suraj is more or less the same what Suraj used to do when he was all the way with KNR...so there can be NO 2 ways abt this
One is getting punished for his wrong deeds and one goes scotfree becoz she was wronged as a kid...NO WAY !!!

In my opinion all 3 of them Suraj, Vivaan and Ragini made the concious choices to become like KNR, becoz they wanted POWER too; they had a choice to turn their lives around, coz they are not the only ones who have been wronged as a child. Even Chakor was wronged, she has been through hell too, but still she chose to still walk the path of truth to get justice for the wrong that was done to her.
Suraj is recognizing the good in him , thanks to being around Chakor and he's ready to make the change
Vivaan and Ragini on the other hand know that what they are doing is wrong, but they still continue doing that ...why ????
Becoz both want POWER, MONEY, BECOMING THE HEIR of KNR and they are willing to do anything for that
Edited by eshasrk - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Ya agree esha raginii will deserve it all punishment...but cv is now staring ragini redeem track😔...i think cv is playing two grey shades ways in each and every character...i mean they have been giving double roles for charecter...so cv is giving all chances to character. Good/bad position..😉😆
But onething vivan faces looks was not hapy seem it when ranjaa re entry in the haveli..we will think that vivan has hidden motivation in his mind..but i don't think..like that...now he needs more money. So he has choosed kn -ragini's 's team...he says that money can buy aything power,fame ,friend and love..so i don't think he has a plan..actually vivan's frustration has come out in this cruel way😛
Edited by sailuja - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Time will tell Vivaan if money can buy love, this guy is so sick in his frustration that he doesn't even realize that the woman he claims to love so much is clearly unhappy with him at the moment. And when Suraj tries to make him understand this...what does he do ???? Hit Suraj and starts his bullcrap abt Chakor leaving Suraj blah blah blah...
Only when Imli will indeed leave him, only then will he understand that money cannot buy everything, especially not money earned the wrong way !!!!
Edited by eshasrk - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
I watched today's episode and i am thinking that Suraj already realizes deep down in his heart that he has fallen in love with Chakor, coz that is what he wanted to say but stopped.
He's just afraid to say it out loud, I think he's scared for rejection, becoz he feels he's not right for Chakor especially not after what he all did to her. I think the guilt is killing him inside, no wonder he mentioned yesterday again how much he wronged her...
On one side he tells her to leave and think abt her own life, but on the other hand only the idea of her leaving him, is killing him too. This guy has fallen in love with his wife, this time sachcha pyaar and he won't survive without her...
His- don't ever leave me Chakor, I don't know if I will survive without you or not and than I am going to die without you- are clear indications enough. Also him telling her that she has won him is loud and clear, only thing is that he tries to give another explanation to it, becoz our girl is in a total different world and she doesn't even realize I think what her man just told her, all the time he was looking at her face, her reaction, her expression and she was confused as usual
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Aradh_27


I missed you, Nimmi 😳

Honestly I don't get the Chakor hate. Yes she didn't hesitate to give Suraj a piece of her mind when he was a villain because they hated each other for years and he'd been nothing but mean to her. Now when she gets miffed at him and calls him names...isn't it what everyone does? We'd all be more comfortable speaking our mind, with no filters, to our closest friends (although these two go way beyond 😆).
She can't possibly hurl the same insults at the basti kakas and kakis or her parents. The whole kunwa incident was the first time she's even been angry at them, that too on Suraj's account, so that really says a lot about how much she loves him.
The whole "tumne Shikhu ko goli kyun nahin maari?" coming from her says even more.




aradhana.
🤗.

missed you too sweetheart.

it is almost spooky that we are usually on such exactly same frequency.
same lub for ImVaan.
same thoughts for Ragini (and the actress).
and now this too.

@blue.

true that. though our Sukor has passed that friendship stage long time back but still they won't give up on their friendly banter. may they never change.

once by mistake i called my closest school mate - tum.
and his immediate reaction was: oye! from abey tu to tum? are you alright nimmi?😆.
so i totally get Chakor.

just that i mind her ridiculing his dimaag simply because it is an untrue statement. not mean one. he beat her at most of her mind games. so little appreciation please.

and i mind screeching and extreme rudeness. from both. though bless the man! doesn't screech. he has got most gorgeous voice modulation.

@bold.
SO beautifully said.

scooby gang.. hahahaa.. perfect name.

fingers crossed for NZ track then. hope springs eternal in tele land.
toes crossed for no Imvaan wish too.

word to all that you said about VJ. what an absolute professional. and sweetheart to boot.

Ragini did give me 'mentally damaged' vibes so i have soft corner for her.
but then again in tele land such sensitive issues aren't dealt with the required understanding and empathy.
Cvs may take easy way out then.




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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: geetkumar

Nimmi🤗
Me thinks, the word is "huq". Suraj and Chakor have that right on each other. We usually have a loose tongue with our nearest and dearest ones. As we take them for granted. Thats because we know that no matter what, they will be with us like a rock. But that's not the case with the world. We have to be polite with people Coz they are outsiders. You very aptly said that they are each other 's mirrors.

Don't have my computer with me as it has gone for repair. My only Sahara is my mobile. So do forgive the typo errors.



geet.
🤗🤗

where have you been girl? happy to see ya.

Haq is the bang on word indeed.

@bold.
brilliant sum up.❤️.

typos errors eh! let me put on my grammar nazi hat and take out my whip on you. issshhh that sounded dirty😆.
buddy.. you can actually type on mobile. that alone calls for charan pranam from my end.

and this is such a perfect post.🤗





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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: eshasrk

I think I have read a few posts here saying that Ragini deserves a second chance, becoz she was wronged as a kid

I think all of them were wronged in some way or the other and the main culprit is KNR and all 3 of them had / have their share of joining him...
But did any of them killed someone ????? I want to know, coz I read somewhere that Ragini killed ppl
And I agree : If Suraj can be redeemed and later on crybaby will be redeemed than why not Ragini ????

BUT...just like Suraj is getting punished now for all the wrongs he did, I want Ragini to get punished too , before she can be redeemed and the same goes for crybaby too..., coz whatever Ragini is doing now with Suraj is more or less the same what Suraj used to do when he was all the way with KNR...so there can be NO 2 ways abt this
One is getting punished for his wrong deeds and one goes scotfree becoz she was wronged as a kid...NO WAY !!!

In my opinion all 3 of them Suraj, Vivaan and Ragini made the concious choices to become like KNR, becoz they wanted POWER too; they had a choice to turn their lives around, coz they are not the only ones who have been wronged as a child. Even Chakor was wronged, she has been through hell too, but still she chose to still walk the path of truth to get justice for the wrong that was done to her.
Suraj is recognizing the good in him , thanks to being around Chakor and he's ready to make the change
Vivaan and Ragini on the other hand know that what they are doing is wrong, but they still continue doing that ...why ????
Becoz both want POWER, MONEY, BECOMING THE HEIR of KNR and they are willing to do anything for that



word to all that you said Esha.
totally concur.👍🏼.

that's why i said 'fair chance'.
that means same chance as Suraj. punishment, karma hitting all right notes, acceptance of wrong doings and repentance.
the man is made to pay for literally every sin of his.

so she must too. everybody deserves a second chance depending upon how far they have gone.
and Ragini has not gone off the edge for me.😳.
can't bring myself to care for Vivaan though. he is just too flip-flop, wishy-washy, hypocritical, stuffy character for me.



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