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Janaki

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Posted: 16 years ago

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Originally posted by: liza93
This is a really detailed article on both the books, a set of 5 questions were debated upon by debators from both the sides, namely, Twilight & Harry Potter. It is a wonderful insight into both the different world,s helped me form an opinion :)

http://www.examiner.com/x-562-Book-Examiner~y2008m12d24-The-Twilight-vs-Harry-Potter-debate--Team-Potter-and-Team-Twilight-take-on-Question-1

It's a must read.

Thanks!😃 I just printed it out and am going to read it on the train home from work. It sounds interesting by the title alone.

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Posted: 16 years ago

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okay i'm not some die hard fan of Meyers but i have to say that people that are criticizing her and her horrible deplorable writing need to phase this book back into the category its meant to be in ..and that is a teen romance novel..so people that are saying oh her usage of verbs and the way she has reused words, and so on and so on (this isnt something that should surprise you.) I think what would be more interesting and worth everyone's while is to debate why King wasted his time on Meyer's book????😕 thats like a CEO of a company deciding to do Professional development on the janitor...😆 hey no pun intended here...😃 furthermore, I personally would be more upset (if i was a teenager) that King thinks that teenage girls cant handle the emotions that are involved in deep sexual relationship..oh phulesse King needs to drag himself out of the dark ages...get a look at what teenagers are really doing....now adays..

oh and if anyone's wondering i cant stand S. king as a writer, he's a complete bore....and i cant remember every having anyone in any of my eng. lit classes every mentioning his brilliant writing skills...or the lack of...and what a laugh that he's criticizing other writers saying oh they have good ideas but their not good writers??? what??? seriously i dont get what he's trying to say..for his ideas are what gets people to even pick up his books...

to me he just came across as being extremely pompous...(exactly what a critic is suppose to sound like...)

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#53

Originally posted by: godisone

Well said liza93!👏👏👏

Harry Potter had so many plots and sub plots, and JK Rowling did not leave one unanswered question after finishing with Deathly Hallows. And as you said, each and every character had a role in Harry's life, and without even one of them, the story would not have been the same. Also, another great thing to applaud Mrs. Rowling on is her fantastic ability to manage so many characters.😲👏 Seriously, I could never have done what she did. Whenever I write a story for fun, the highest number of characters I can manage is like 10, and even that's hard. Eventually, I just kill of some of my characters because I don't know what to do with them.😆 It's amazing how JK Rowling managed all these characters, gave each of them a different personality, and not one of them is a Mary Sue, while 97% of the characters in Twilight are Mary Sues and have no depth to their character/personality.

It's so boring to read about how damn perfect these characters are! None of the Cullens have one fault! Do you know how boring a book gets when no one does anything wrong and everyone is perfect and the series is just a "happily ever after" story?

It's also missleading to teens who believe that there is a perfect guy out there like Edward Cullen, because there isn't, and there never will be. No one's perfect. But the scary thing is that lots of teenage girls love Twilight so much that they literally think that a "perfect guy" like Edward Cullen exists, and get angry when anyone tells them otherwise.

LOL I agree on that😆 I was kind of tierd reading how much "perfect" Edward was, his appearance, his body etc etc!!! Then the cullens has n o ofault and all!!! Its impossible in real world for someone to have no fault in them. Thats the reason why Twillights character are so weak and poorly developed.

Whereas look in HP...even central character like Hermione, Ron, Ginny, Luna...all of them has got hugenumber of faults. For instance Hr is too bookish, bad on sports...Luna is too dreamy to notice whats going on around her....then there's Ron who is a bit unkind and doesn't think of others feeling while talking....Even Harry who is the protagonist, has got numerous faults! AQnd thats what make HP a a'realistic' book. Whereas in Twillight, all the cullens, esp Edwars is an angel having no flaws and all that!!!😆 And it was like Stephen Meyere was trying to push me to believe that Edward was PERFECT by describing his appearance again and again and again...using words like "shining" (god knows how many times she used that word to describe edwards appearance), "perect". Its too tiring to read her texts...isn't it supposed to be like this that she will first give small background and then we will make up the other halves ourself?? That is how a character should be written. But SM, on the other hand, did not let us any chance to 'imagine' the characters or anything, cause she had deliberately described the characters (esp Edward) again and again and again...**sigh**

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#54

Originally posted by: godisone

Thanks!😃 I just printed it out and am going to read it on the train home from work. It sounds interesting by the title alone.

Yes! I will def. read that tonight...sounds interesting!!!😛

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Janaki

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Originally posted by: stranger@mirror

Yes! I will def. read that tonight...sounds interesting!!!😛

Yes Labib, you should definitely take a chance to read it. I got through the first three questions and they're pretty interesting. I have to say that this debate is the first place where I have seen Twihards having an argument against Potter Heads that does not consist of, "EDWARD IS HOT!"

But I still noticed that in the debate, Team Twilight tends to diss Harry Potter (in a polite way😉) to get their point across while Team Potter praises both series and explains why they like Harry Potter without bashing Twilight. It shows which series has fans that are more mature.😉

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Originally posted by: nrasheed
okay i'm not some die hard fan of Meyers but i have to say that people that are criticizing her and her horrible deplorable writing need to phase this book back into the category its meant to be in ..and that is a teen romance novel..so people that are saying oh her usage of verbs and the way she has reused words, and so on and so on (this isnt something that should surprise you.)

Umm, most people who are debating in this topic, taking HP's side, are teens too. So your notion that since Twillight is written for teenage girls, that's why the english is not that standard, is incorrect... If her english was for the teenage girls only, then shouldn't all teenagers supposed to like it as well? I'm excluding myself since I'm a guy😆 but there are a lot of others on this very topic who had critisized stephen meyere's writing style, even though they are teen girls as well (shadow kisses, for instance)😉. If all teenage girls really did like Twillight there wouldn't be this numerous number of critisicms comming about it, and that too on its very own thread😆😉 And no, I don't mean only IF...its through out the net, and ofcourse the world. Yes I admit Twillight is getting praise as well, but see the statistics, the people who praises Twillight are either small girls (teens) who haven't read mkuch of literatures and hence has no idea about real literatures, or some fanatic fans...but the people who critisizes Twillight are all big, very big and popular writers (Stephen King, for instance😉).

Originally posted by: nrasheed

I think what would be more interesting and worth everyone's while is to debate why King wasted his time on Meyer's book????😕 thats like a CEO of a company deciding to do Professional development on the janitor...😆 hey no pun intended here...😃

Well, I believe every author has the right to give critics regarding about any book. ESP when the author turns out to be as big as SK then whats the big deal? HP is much more successfull than twillight, both financially and as a literature, and yet HP got much more criticisms. All literatures are subjected to critisicm, and that is it. That is the speciality of literature: while one may critisize it some other may praise it. Its all a part of literature. All books, even extremely good books, gets critisized.

Originally posted by: nrasheed
furthermore, I personally would be more upset (if i was a teenager) that King thinks that teenage girls cant handle the emotions that are involved in deep sexual relationship..oh phulesse King needs to drag himself out of the dark ages...get a look at what teenagers are really doing....

Oh well thats a different story😕😆 I better not comment on it😆😆😆

Originally posted by: nrasheed

oh and if anyone's wondering i cant stand S. king as a writer, he's a complete bore....and i cant remember every having anyone in any of my eng. lit classes every mentioning his brilliant writing skills...or the lack of...and what a laugh that he's criticizing other writers saying oh they have good ideas but their not good writers??? what??? seriously i dont get what he's trying to say..for his ideas are what gets people to even pick up his books.......

LOL, how many friends do u have in ur literature class? 100? 1000? 1000000? Or even more than that??

I can't be sure about the number of friends u have, but I can say this: your friends--even if they are huge in numbers--doesn't show us all the number of people who exists in thgis world. Your friends, even if a big number, won't be even 0.00001% of the world's population, and hence saying that your friends didn't like it isn't a valid arguement. I have many friends who hates Shakespeare, but that doesn't make Shakespeare a bad writer. He is what he is.

PS...no offence meant.

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Originally posted by: godisone

Yes Labib, you should definitely take a chance to read it. I got through the first three questions and they're pretty interesting. I have to say that this debate is the first place where I have seen Twihards having an argument against Potter Heads that does not consist of, "EDWARD IS HOT!"

But I still noticed that in the debate, Team Twilight tends to diss Harry Potter (in a polite way😉) to get their point across while Team Potter praises both series and explains why they like Harry Potter without bashing Twilight. It shows which series has fans that are more mature.😉

Not 'matured fan'...the word should be 'real fans'. A real fan is one who doesn't worry or care when others critisize their favs. 😳 I, for instance, don't care even if anyone critisizes HP, cause I know HP's a litrtr which is meant to be critisized. 😛 Also because I'm a true fan of HP hence I am open to the possibily that HP books can contain faults as well.😃

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Janaki

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Originally posted by: stranger@mirror

Not 'matured fan'...the word should be 'real fans'. A real fan is one who doesn't worry or care when others critisize their favs. 😳 I, for instance, don't care even if anyone critisizes HP, cause I know HP's a litrtr which is meant to be critisized. 😛 Also because I'm a true fan of HP hence I am open to the possibily that HP books can contain faults as well.😃

Well said!