S.King: Meyer can't write.. - Page 7

Originally posted by: godisone

Okay, one thing that Twilight defenders are saying that really disturbs me: Stephen King never voluntarily spoke his opinion about Rowling versus Meyers.

okay even though you didnt quote me directly i can read between the lines and say that I am not a Twilight defender, in fact on page 3 or something i even said meyers is very fortunate to have a author of King's caliber to even give her a second look, forget the first, but i still say that it doesnt suit him to be criticising a romance novel that is an equivalent to a harlequin romance novel...and he should have said so..seriously i was shocked to see him even bother...JK Rowlings i can totally understand him giving his critique on that, heck she's proved her worth...thats all, i mean no offence to any Meyer fans or King fans out there, that is how i see it..Period...and I again reiterate by saying that king's like a CEO calibre writer and him giving his take on Meyers was like him commenting on a janitor's job performance...very unfortunate you didnt see it that way...oh well...but you gave a very well thought out reply...kudos to you...

In an interview, someone asked him what he felt about the two writers, and that's when he told everyone what he thought about Meyers' style of writing. So for all those who think Stephen King wasted his time by commenting on Meyers' style of writing, well I'm sorry you think that,

no need for you to apologize about the way i think....😃 and while you brought up the interview, King critiqued other authors as well like James Patterson saying he's a best seller and has sold countless books but that his writing pretty much sucks too..seriously i still think that was more King's worth at least, but Meyers...thats like saying hey your a renouned palentologist would you please critique the work of Dan Browns.. I should mention that i totally agreed with what King said about Meyers' writing ability..

but he was giving an interview about one of his books and someone asked him that question. What should he do? Ignore the question? And he has a right to his opinon, and there's also something called 'freedom of speech' in this world. So for all those who think Stephen King was a "git" or "mean", leave him alone!

its seems like your being a bit hypocritical here, on one stand your saying hey all you meyer's fans leave him alone he's entitled to his thoughts and then saying why are you all getting upset at him for using his freedom of speech, well arent these younge teens who love her novels allowed their freedom of speech as well???😕😲 now i hope you arent upset that i said that, but thats how its coming across as to me and i want to say it again that i'm neither a meyer's fan or a king's fan..just someone whose saying that King has set a high standard as an author, he deserves his respect and he's entitled to have any opinion he wants, all i'm saying is that him critiqing Meyers wasnt really worth it...(just my humble opinion.) I'd rather see him critiquing Patterson again or something...cause for the life of me i cant understand why he said Patterson cant write.????😲😕

Every single book and author out there, like Shakespeare, Jane Austen, Mary Shelley, etc, who are now part of Classic Literature, have been criticized. So it doesn't make sense for you guys to go into a big rant because your author received some criticism.🤔

Again who are you referring to as when you say "your author received some criticism,"? I hope you arent making assumptions like that other guy who misquoted me?nothing bothers a person more then being misunderstood...for i am no way a Meyers fan.

And whether you guys have heard of Stephen King or not, or whether your friends/classmates talk about him in school or not, does not matter at all, because Stephen King sold 350,000,000 books compared to Meyers' 50,000,000, and his fan base is larger than Meyers' (though you might find that unbelievable).

see now using king's number against Meyers is truly inapproprieate here cause well first of all hands down noone in their right mind should compare king to Meyers and secondly King as been writing for decades where Meyers has just started..(god i hope she's done writing 😆)

He has complete right to state his opinion on not only her writing style, but any author out there. That's called literary criticism in case you don't know.

Acutally i'm quite aware of the term literary criticism but thanks for taking the time out and tell me yet again..😆 acutally instead of blaming meyers i'd be trying to pull the hair out of her literary agent instead but i agree with you here meyers is shockingly very weak as a writer..but its a phenomenal how she's getting all this attention.this is what really shocked me...thanks for such a well thought out post I hope you dont mind that i quoted you..I really enjoyed reading your post.thanks take care..

And whether Meyer's is writing for a teenage audience, or adult audience should not make any difference. She has the responsibility as an author (who majored in English by the way) to write professionally. She can write better grammer and still make it sound like a High School book. It's not hard. I've seen authors do it. So you guys can't use the excuse that she's writing for a teenage audience if she has grammatical errors. Grammar and the usage of correct English has nothing to do with which age group you write for. So since she has grammatical errors in her book, and since her book is popular, she should get ready for criticism from distinguished authors in the future.

absolutely correct totally agree with you here...👏👏 Meyers should set a high standard if she wants to become a writer worth her merit, for nothing is more powerful then the mighty pen....

Oh, and guys, Stephen King isn't the only one who "wasted his time" criticizing Stephenie Meyers. There were others, and I could provide the links to their criticisms if you want.😉 It's just that SK was the only "famous" author greater than Meyers who did it. Shocking, isn't it?😲

yeah pretty shocking, please to tell us who else wasted their time, i'm just to lazy to bother trying to find out..but would like to know. thank again...

Originally posted by: nrasheed

Originally posted by: nrasheed

@ godison I cant tell you how much i luved reading your post above you nailed your points and i'm giving you a standing ovation. i really wish that people could discuss differences with the maturity and intelligence you have..👏 and i couldnt agree more with what you have written, I too am in shock over the wide fanbase of twilight. i've read other posts on the net about bella and edward and what they find so amazing about them, and nothing really grabs me to say yes oh i finally understand,,, oh well i guess somethings are to remain a mystery....

Originally posted by: Richa1234

@ godisone and nrasheed, I loved reading every bit of your discussion. The manner in which you discussed the delicate issue, without being immature (as you put it, and I believe you have done it correctly) is worth mentioning. I agree with you on most of the points, but since I haven't read HP, it would be wrong for me to comment on that and its writer. I finished reading Twilight and its sequels about 2 months ago, and I have no qualms in accepting that I liked the series a lot. But, I also admit that its not a great written book, and has a lot many grammatical errors which did annoy me a lot while going through the different chapters. I would say that more than a good writing style, Stephenie Meyer's had an interesting story, and the way she used the plot was intriguing. I found her writing style very normal, without the use of well phrased sentences. That lead me to believe that she is more of an interesting person (humourous at times), than a "great" writer. I don't believe she is a bad writer, but when it comes to comparing with other popular writers, she might not be the best person to be held a nomination against.

Like you both mentioned about girls going gaga over Twilight purely because of Edward and his so-called "hotness", I too find it annoying to believe it as the only reason for them to like the series. It is a very superficial excuse to like a piece of literature, without considering other important factors of it. And, you mentioned it absolutely correctly that those likings are very momentary; they do die eventually. For me, both Edward's and Jacob's characters were inetresting because the quality possessed by one was missing in the other and vice-versa. It was a shame the way Stephanie side-tracked Jacob in the last book, without giving equal footage to him during the ending. He was a very important part of the book and I felt she didn't do justice to his role. There were many loopholes in her writing but somehow, I still overlooked those and enjoyed reading it to the fullest.

I wouldn't like to comment on S. Meyers' and J.K. Rowling's writing style comparison, as like I said, it would be wrong for me to state anything related to that due to my lack of knowledge of the HP series. But, from what I have known, both the writers have different writing styles and completely different genres. And, it appears that HP series are written with much more intricacies than the Twilight series. I would certainly like to read more about the series if I get a chance sometime.

Glad to have read your points, both of you.

Love,
Richa

Originally posted by: shellytt

I am going to second the kudos for an outstanding debate from both godisone and nrasheed.

You both did a fantastic job, and it was such a pleasure reading the constructive, well thought out discussion, because really it was more of a discussion than a "fight".

Hats off to both of you and Thank you for putting a mature face on a debate that could easily have turned ugly and insulting!

I hope that younger members of the forum that read the posts take note, and hopefully learn a lesson on a shining example of "friendly debate" and construction criticsm. (And I am not issing this statement with any particular member in mind, so please don't take offence anyone!)

Again, well done to both of you!

Originally posted by: Richa1234

@ godisone and nrasheed, I loved reading every bit of your discussion. The manner in which you discussed the delicate issue, without being immature (as you put it, and I believe you have done it correctly) is worth mentioning.

Hiya Richa...thanks alot for taking the time out and giving mine and godison's discussion your pov. i really liked your view as to what you liked about the twilight saga, and seeing it from your pov, i have to say yeah meyer as done a good job with telling her story in a very basic manner. for sometimes i just want something to read thats easy and flowing and entertaining. God knows i have enough mental stresses that i dont need it in my fictional reading as well😃

I agree with you on most of the points, but since I haven't read HP, it would be wrong for me to comment on that and its writer. I finished reading Twilight and its sequels about 2 months ago, and I have no qualms in accepting that I liked the series a lot. But, I also admit that its not a great written book, and has a lot many grammatical errors which did annoy me a lot while going through the different chapters. I would say that more than a good writing style, Stephenie Meyer's had an interesting story, and the way she used the plot was intriguing. I found her writing style very normal, without the use of well phrased sentences. That lead me to believe that she is more of an interesting person (humourous at times),

yeah i found Meyers humour really funny as well.

than a "great" writer. I don't believe she is a bad writer, but when it comes to comparing with other popular writers, she might not be the best person to be held a nomination against.

I dont think one has to be a great writer to be entertaining so agree Meyers isnt a great writer and she may never become one, but she did have something special in her stories (now i dont know what that is yet, i think if i had to say its probably a combination of things, that she wanted to make girls believe in prince charming all over again...wrapped into a setting of romeo and juliet..and yeah i think that might have been the key that she managed to touch that inner hope of younge girls and heck elder ladies as well that eternal hope that everyone's prince charming does exist..now what form he comes in well thats to each her own..😆

For me, both Edward's and Jacob's characters were inetresting because the quality possessed by one was missing in the other and vice-versa. It was a shame the way Stephanie side-tracked Jacob in the last book, without giving equal footage to him during the ending. He was a very important part of the book and I felt she didn't do justice to his role. There were many loopholes in her writing but somehow, I still overlooked those and enjoyed reading it to the fullest.

I wouldn't like to comment on S. Meyers' and J.K. Rowling's writing style comparison, as like I said, it would be wrong for me to state anything related to that due to my lack of knowledge of the HP series. But, from what I have known, both the writers have different writing styles and completely different genres. And, it appears that HP series are written with much more intricacies than the Twilight series. I would certainly like to read more about the series if I get a chance sometime.

yeah i haven't read the HP series either, but seen a couple of the moives and defintely the Rowling's series is very intricate well thought out..as for Meyers i really just felt entertained when reading her books. Hopefully i'll get some time to give the HP series a try..and oh yeah i totally liked you comment about how Edward and Jacob...thanks for sharing your views...really enjoyed reading your post...

take care.

Glad to have read your points, both of you.

Love,
Richa