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Posted: 16 years ago
#31
Firstly, I just wanted to put my own perspective on the topic of love out there. I had no intention of starting a debate among the members. There is no reason why many of us can't express our own views without taking offense. So, again, I will say that the views I express on here are merely opinions....nothing more. I do not intend to hurt anyone else's views/opinions.

We can't just have this fear in our hearts that if you start to love you might lose that love so we shouldn't love at all.

Its not about fear. Its about having a healthy view on what love is? It seems that these lessons are advocating love as this GREAT power that has the potential to move mountains, give the ultimate sacrifice and all that, etc. But, how many of us have actually seen that happen in real life? Very few stories even come close to what we imagine LOVE SHOULD BE. I'm not saying it is impossible or that we shouldn't strive towards something like that. What I was trying to say is that we should realize that love is not as grand as it is portrayed through poetry, movies, books, etc. We need to start viewing love from a realistic viewpoint....2 people coming together who attempt to make a life together. But, they may not have the power to stand up and face the world.

I do agree with you on the point that you can't help yourself from falling in love....of course not. But realize as you fall in love that this is reality not fiction. He is a mere mortal who may not be able to stand up to the world for you. Prepare for that in case.



And Neetu you say that if you never come to know what love is then you'll have hope in finding it???
Well how can you have hope in finding it when you never come to know about it???

Well, I see it like this. If you never come to know of it and getting hurt, you will still strive/want to find it. But if u fall for someone and that doesn't turn out to be your true love, then u will be hurt badly. So much so that you will never give another chance to anyone else in your life. That one bad experience may rob you from ever finding your TRUE LOVE because you will never let anyone else close to you again.

As for 'how can you hope in finding it when you never come to know about it?": I'll give you an example. No one has REALLY seen what God truly looks like...yet we all hope to find him...whether it is through countless hours in prayer or hope of finding him in Heaven. Where there is hope...there is desire to find what you seek.



You know those who find love are the most luckiest people in the world!!!
And those who don't because they are afraid will allways be afraid 4 the rest of their lives!!!

Usually, those who are afraid of love have a reason. Most likely, they have had a bad run-in with fake love or have seen how others around them have suffered, etc. Also, I think it is wrong to say that those who never find TRUE LOVE simply don't because they are afraid. Maybe they were actively looking and waiting but it didn't happen for them. Also, it would be wrong to generalize that those that do find TRUE LOVE....have a love that stays consistent in his/her affections for that person through their entire life. Believe me, nothing can stay forever consistent. And if it does, I commend those relationships for those are truly rare and pure.👏

Hope you're not offended, yaar. These are just my opinions.





Edited by Neetu2825 - 16 years ago
urmee thumbnail
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Posted: 16 years ago
#32

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone.i'm just telling my feelings.i find it meaningless to debate in love.bcoz debate depends on logic and love is totally opposite of logic.and there r no option to debate.everyone is right somehow.

So,it's just another lesson:

Who tries to give love an exact defination is a great fool for me.if we give love a defination ,then it'll be limited.but love has no limitation,no condition,no border.it's up to everything.it's just like we can't imagine the shape of god,we have no idea about god,but we all have that believe that god is everything.love is somehow like that.love is like god.it can do anything with us.

The one who has lost his love will say,love is full of pain.love means sorrow.and the one who got his love will say,love is life.love means happiness.actualy sometimes we become blind about something bcoz of our any personal experience.but we shouldn't.we can't judge anything by one particular experience.it's not nessecery that should happen to all what happened to u.if I get my love it doesn't mean everybody will get love.and if I lose my love wvery body will lose their love.every lovestory is individual.

If we would have control over love then it could be much easier.but the main problem is we have no control over love.that's why it has become too much complicated.so,once it has come to u then u've to face it.there r no other option.if u r among those very few lucky persons,u'll get ur love otherwise u'll lose it.

U guys made me imagine a world where everyone is avoiding love bcoz of the fear of loosing it.oh god…….😭😭😭.i don't want to live in that kind of world.what life without love?ur love can be like a dew drop which remains only for a few moments or ur love can b like sea which is long lasting.i know sea is beautiful.but I've to say how wonderful and glorious that temporary dew drop is.actualy I wonder how deep the relation of love with pain! but we all know love is the greatest feelings of the world and best gift of god.
I know how painfull it is to lose ur love.it's just unbearable sorrow.but I realy feel pity for those people who never falls in love.u guys telling about reality?????sapne tut jane ki darse hum sapna dekhna chod nahi sakte.kya ye bhi ek reality nahi?we can easily ignore what our brain says to us but it's very hard to ignore the feelings of ur heart.what can we do?god has given that much power to our heart……….

Imagine I'm in love.if u ask me why I'm loving that person ,then what can I answer ?that he is very good or good looking,or kind-hearted or caring or any other positive side of him?no,those can't be the reason for falling in love.bcoz then i've to love all people who r good or goodlooking or have many good qualities.the one and only reason is i feeled that god gifted feelings of love only for him.

We know how much pain we may get in love.but we have to take this risk willingly or unwillingly.we've to keep something for our luck.

Shab,ur last lesson made everything clear for me.specialy the last line.i totally agree with u.if u've read my previous lesson,I just told something. same.

We could do many thing if we had control over love.but alas!we haven't.i 100% agree

we can't ignore reality but we also can't ignore love.we can just pray to have a good combination of these two thing.
now tell me who'll disagree with me.shab,niki,amira,any one????????😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
#33

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone.i'm just telling my feelings.i find it meaningless to debate in love.bcoz debate depends on logic and love is totally opposite of logic.and there r no option to debate.everyone is right somehow.

So,it's just another lesson:

Who tries to give love an exact definetion is a great fool for me.if we give love a definetion ,then it'll be limited.but love has no limitation,no condition,no border.it's up to everything.it's just like we can't imagine the shape of god,we have no idea about god,but we all have that believe that god is everything.love is somehow like that.love is like god.it can do anything with us.

The one who has lost his love will say,love is full of pain.love means sorrow.and the one who got his love will say,love is life.love means happiness.actualy sometimes we become blind about something bcoz of our any personal experience.but we shouldn't.we can't judge anything by one particular experience.it's not nessecery that should happen to all what happened to u.if I get my love it doesn't mean everybody will get love.and if I lose my love wvery body will lose their love.every lovestory is individual.

If we would have control over love then it could be much easier.but the main problem is we have no control over love.that's why it has become too much complicated.so,once it has come to u then u've to face it.there r no other option.if u r among those very few lucky persons,u'll get ur love otherwise u'll lose it.

U guys made me imagine a world where everyone is avoiding love bcoz of the fear of loosing it.oh god……..i don't want to live in that kind of world.what life without love?ur love can be like a dew drop which remains only for a few moments or ur love can b like sea which is long lasting..i know sea is beautiful.but I've to say how wonderful and glorious that temporary dew drop is.actualy I wonder how deep the relation of love with pain!but we all know love is the greatest feelings of the world and best gift of god.

I know how painfull it is to lose ur love.it's just unbearable sorrow.but I realy feel pity for those people who never falls in love.u guys telling about reality?????sapne tut jane ki darse hum sapna dekhna chod nahi sakte.kya ye bhi ek reality nahi?we can easily ignore what our brain says to us but it's very hard to ignore the feelings of ur heart.what can we do?god has given that much power to our heart……….

Imagine I'm in love.if u ask me why I'm loving that person ,then what can I answer ?that he is very good or good looking,or kind-hearted or caring or any other positive side of him?no,those can't be the reason for falling in love.bcoz then i've to love all people who r good or goodlooking or have many good qualities.the one and only reason is i feeled that god gifted feelings of love only for him.

We know how much pain we may get in love.but we have to take this risk willingly or unwillingly.we've to keep something for our luck.

Shab,ur last lesson made everything clear for me.specialy the last line.i totally agree with u.if u've read my previous lesson,I just told something. same.

We can do many thing if we had control over love.but alas!we haven't.i 100% agree we can't ignore reality but we also can't ignore love.we can just pray to have a good combination of these two thing.

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Posted: 16 years ago
#34
ups.sorry for double posting.just ignore the second one.i'm having problem to open this page.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#35
well hun ive just read your lesson, and it was very nice just like all your others 😊
like you said urmee, love cant be defined, and for dat reason it is impossible for me to only agree with one opinion.
i see all sides, and points of views. and although i sed i agree with neetu, wich is true, i also agree with certain aspects explained by you and nikita too.
so well done guys 👏, and i hope our class enjoyed our lectures.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#36
😆😃 i find it funny how love is being discussed here hehehehehe......few words from me
love is not something you can lecture about OR define it everyones experience is difference but i feel many girls or guys grow up basing their "outlook on love" through movies or books and then they try to find the same aspects in reality buttttt what they fail to understand is that in a movie which is what 3 hour long to 2 hour long or a book which is to 500 pages the most.......love is shown but in real life when you have 360 days and 24 hrs a day that same love u perceive through media ends maximum in couple of months....then people get so caught up fighting or searchin for that same love....obviously life is not like a move or boook heheh then THE REAL world kicks in which the movies/books fail to show the readers.....everyone wants to escape to an imaginery world which is farrrrrr off from reality......there is no ideal love out there cause the reality is besides being in "love" you have million other responsibilites to take care of etc etc and NO one out there is freee of worries that they can sit back n enjoy this so called love....so when the other factors play in you really get the whole feel of this so called love.....
so really its better not to have any expectations or any sort of ideal image cause you will only feeel hurt when your expectations are not met hence the love becomin painful.
have a care free out look .....go with the flow and have no expectations....
Love is full of trials/test/exams and some pass all n get out and some dont.....those that do were meant to be together and those that dont were not n something better is out there for them....if you have this thinking then even if you get hurt you will know that it was not meant to be and you are better off with someone else...always works in your favor
also this whole talk of being scared of finding love or at least having an experience in love is not in our hands.....you dont go looking for love...if it hasnt come to you then be happy and if it has then also be happy...
Always remember the grass is always greener on the other side....
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Posted: 16 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: shab_rules

thnx hun, for understanding hun and meetin me half way 😊.
HAHAHA, the simpsons, and less controvosy do not go together in the same sentance hun.😆
and the subjects dat we have chosen to discuss next, well they are all very controvertial too :-
divorce (when will our jodis do this?)
hatred
revenge (something i have aqquired a taste for after watchin this show😳)
larki patana (i like this one 😆)

😆😆
I like the topic of Larki Patana hehehe
nikita_88 thumbnail
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Posted: 16 years ago
#38
Nice lectures Sana and Urmee.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: skstar

😆😃 i find it funny how love is being discussed here hehehehehe......few words from me

love is not something you can lecture about OR define it everyones experience is difference but i feel many girls or guys grow up basing their "outlook on love" through movies or books and then they try to find the same aspects in reality buttttt what they fail to understand is that in a movie which is what 3 hour long to 2 hour long or a book which is to 500 pages the most.......love is shown but in real life when you have 360 days and 24 hrs a day that same love u perceive through media ends maximum in couple of months....then people get so caught up fighting or searchin for that same love....obviously life is not like a move or boook heheh then THE REAL world kicks in which the movies/books fail to show the readers.....everyone wants to escape to an imaginery world which is farrrrrr off from reality......there is no ideal love out there cause the reality is besides being in "love" you have million other responsibilites to take care of etc etc and NO one out there is freee of worries that they can sit back n enjoy this so called love....so when the other factors play in you really get the whole feel of this so called love.....
so really its better not to have any expectations or any sort of ideal image cause you will only feeel hurt when your expectations are not met hence the love becomin painful.
have a care free out look .....go with the flow and have no expectations....
Love is full of trials/test/exams and some pass all n get out and some dont.....those that do were meant to be together and those that dont were not n something better is out there for them....if you have this thinking then even if you get hurt you will know that it was not meant to be and you are better off with someone else...always works in your favor
also this whole talk of being scared of finding love or at least having an experience in love is not in our hands.....you dont go looking for love...if it hasnt come to you then be happy and if it has then also be happy...
Always remember the grass is always greener on the other side....

well said 👏
cant say why....but it sounds familiar 😆
Edited by shab_rules - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
#40
YY I Had Enongh lectors today dont wana ani mor Shabs and Urmeee By My Skool Teachers Well Me N Miz Magik lol

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