18/12 Episode Discussion!! - Page 2

Originally posted by: manasa.123

Hi blue

You are a star today and looks like you are in dreamland and no matter what you are making us as dreamy as you.

I didn't have any doubt that we will get haldi scene yesterday and the episode is a dragged one with out our star moment. The team fully deserve some kind of award for this wonderful team work.

I want to say so many things but I don't think I will get enough time to put them all through. I will try to post in between so I may say all I want to say.

Please note that most of this post could be nonsense and completely off track. Please bare with me blue and forum friends.

1 Why expressions are so important?

There are so many ways of expressions or communication. Why so many ways?
Different people or living beings communicate according to their nature and feelings.

It looks like most common method of communication is through sounds. We use words and language instead of sounds. But when we fell down and hurt ourselves severely, we scream, shout or yelp.
Our first reaction would still be sounds. Feelings are our learnt behaviour which we will learn through society, our surroundings or education.

Please don't be mad at me blue now but would love your take on it.

Love is also a feeling and so a learnt behaviour?

Love can be something that can be manufactured? (I know you got your pan ready to hit it on my head)
I myself want to hit myself because even with all these weird thoughts, I believe in true love 100% without doubt. And stupid enough to read all romantic novels and will feel cloud nine when true love wins.

We cannot see love then how the world can take advantage of this commodity?

What about Valentine's Day?

What's the relationship between love and chocolates and red roses. Why red roses became symbols of love. Again this been manufactured or developed by society. The same way Mangalsutra is also a thing which will symbolise the love or relationship in fact it actually miniature of the actual other half.

At the end of it when Mangalsutra became more important than man himself?

Please don't throw anything at me.




Both the marriage and Mangalsutra are society products. When you can throw off one what's the point keeping the other one and giving importance to it.

Hey there Manasa
Thank you for reading and a wonderful off track comment - but it's intriguing nonetheless.

Expressions are a means to communicate, not everyone is a master to control their expressions, the look of disgust, sadness, happiness everything can be expressed without uttering a word, even those who cannot express their eyes speak. The twinkle of happiness, the hollowness from sadness everything is there yet man is unable to relate to the most basic of expressions.
I being a realistic die hard romantic believe that love cannot be learned, it can't be conditioned... love is freedom in entrapment, the heart flies away, yet it remains caged in the ribs... the prisoner in ones own body is no longer ones own...people can learn to love, but that's a different... love just happens, there is no right or wrong, line or no line, grey or black it's apparently all negative but heart wants what it wants. But love is not to be together and be miserable, love is to set free let go, for the other to find it's happ and in their happiness one finds love.

Coming to mangalsutra being more important than Uma - oh it's the irony of life the importance one places on material rather than humans... he was right in front of her 100percent. Yet she thought to have the cake and eat it too... her choice was difficult for her too, but it's ones choices that brings interesting turns in life.
Mangalsutra is her last hope, that she wouldn't give it up, she would hold on to Uma till death - that proclaimation is not enough for Uma to give in to her, he still tries to get it from her, it's he who is killing her at the moment by taking away her lifeline.

Did I just get too over dramatic 😳

Originally posted by: blueflames

Hey there Manasa
Thank you for reading and a wonderful off track comment - but it's intriguing nonetheless.

Expressions are a means to communicate, not everyone is a master to control their expressions, the look of disgust, sadness, happiness everything can be expressed without uttering a word, even those who cannot express their eyes speak. The twinkle of happiness, the hollowness from sadness everything is there yet man is unable to relate to the most basic of expressions.
I being a realistic die hard romantic believe that love cannot be learned, it can't be conditioned... love is freedom in entrapment, the heart flies away, yet it remains caged in the ribs... the prisoner in ones own body is no longer ones own...people can learn to love, but that's a different... love just happens, there is no right or wrong, line or no line, grey or black it's apparently all negative but heart wants what it wants. But love is not to be together and be miserable, love is to set free let go, for the other to find it's happ and in their happiness one finds love.

Coming to mangalsutra being more important than Uma - oh it's the irony of life the importance one places on material rather than humans... he was right in front of her 100percent. Yet she thought to have the cake and eat it too... her choice was difficult for her too, but it's ones choices that brings interesting turns in life.
Mangalsutra is her last hope, that she wouldn't give it up, she would hold on to Uma till death - that proclaimation is not enough for Uma to give in to her, he still tries to get it from her, it's he who is killing her at the moment by taking away her lifeline.

Did I just get too over dramatic 😳

Beautiful Blue each line touched my heart love u so much blue🤗

Originally posted by: _Asfii_

Hello blue
The episode was indeed a filler episode. But I liked when uma didn't take mangalsutra from kanak's mouth as he would lose control 😆
But palomi uma convo i don't like uma talking to her a bit specially about love and all...uma gave correct expression to palomi like what the hell is she talking about!!! And i was like what the hell are you doing?listen to your heart and break the promise!😆
And you said so right that palomi can never take place in uma's heart coz that won't be vacant anytime! Hope that cvs will speed up kanUm track sooonish...
Nice post :)

Even I don't understand why this much ang pradarshan...why uma keeps roaming shirtless most of the time and also in front of that palomi..there should be a limit of it!!!

Hey there
Thank you for reading and commenting. Much appreciated.

Uma is giving all the right expressions, he is tired of being thrown around. He is fed up of the constant games, he refuses to be a part of them anymore... he just wants to get done with things/promises. He is hurt so much that he is as ever more clueless and confused. He says he trusts Kanak etc etc But bhai kuch aqal wale kaam app bhi kar lein, instead of just handing over promises to different ladies, you can do much more than promises.

Originally posted by: Divyaamurali

Beautiful Blue each line touched my heart love u so much blue🤗

Thank you so much Divya 🤗
Love you too.

Originally posted by: blueflames

Hey there Manasa
Thank you for reading and a wonderful off track comment - but it's intriguing nonetheless.

Expressions are a means to communicate, not everyone is a master to control their expressions, the look of disgust, sadness, happiness everything can be expressed without uttering a word, even those who cannot express their eyes speak. The twinkle of happiness, the hollowness from sadness everything is there yet man is unable to relate to the most basic of expressions.
I being a realistic die hard romantic believe that love cannot be learned, it can't be conditioned... love is freedom in entrapment, the heart flies away, yet it remains caged in the ribs... the prisoner in ones own body is no longer ones own...people can learn to love, but that's a different... love just happens, there is no right or wrong, line or no line, grey or black it's apparently all negative but heart wants what it wants. But love is not to be together and be miserable, love is to set free let go, for the other to find it's happ and in their happiness one finds love.

Coming to mangalsutra being more important than Uma - oh it's the irony of life the importance one places on material rather than humans... he was right in front of her 100percent. Yet she thought to have the cake and eat it too... her choice was difficult for her too, but it's ones choices that brings interesting turns in life.
Mangalsutra is her last hope, that she wouldn't give it up, she would hold on to Uma till death - that proclaimation is not enough for Uma to give in to her, he still tries to get it from her, it's he who is killing her at the moment by taking away her lifeline.

Did I just get too over dramatic 😳

Thank you blue for your wonderful reply.

Blue, Uma don't have much knowledge about love. he didn't watch movies or love stories as we or Kanak did.

All he read about is Puranas. Puranas had love stories too but love is always took second step before Dharma.
For example, let's look at Rama.

Rama left all his kingdom and went t live in forest because his father asked him to. This only reaffirms that Promise should be kept no matter what and also listen to parents.
After all the trials, when Rama and Seetha also united , Rama sent Seetha to forest when she is pregnant. Again I won't say that correct but from Rama POV, he placed Raja Dharma before his love and wife.

If Uma is reading all these stories, how hard it is for him to break the promise he made to Massisa.

It's all easy for us to connect to Kanak as she's very much today's girl. But we are unable to understand Uma's POV because we are not able to put ourselves in Uma's place and thinking Uma is killing Kanak by taking that Mangalsutra?

Our Kanak very fast became Juliet but our hero will take his time to transfer himself from Rama to Romeo?

Originally posted by: Divyaamurali

Hi Blue for ur awesome analysis .I loved kanak boldness and her antics when uma threatened her that he will use force to take it out from her helpless uma cannot do anything he cannot touch her as he very well know he will loose his control.But I am surprised why this uma is not even thinking once why she is not removing even after divorce.He is mad on her for pushing him to divorce her but hecis failing to understand why she has taken this drastic step of sacrificing her life as he very well know its not for the property uma is not even joining points now he has stopped thinking and analysing the situations what happened to our Antharyami uma .Its very hard to see our uma is getting manipulated by all the woman's of the house I can accept massisa becos he respects massisa he has devotion towards her so he listens to her command but this palomi is just a refugee how much guts she has to ask uma to remove the mangalsutra from kanak knowing very well he is loving kanak who gave her this much confidence to reveal her feelings directly to uma I am shocked uma was not even reacting even after knowing that she was eyeing a married man which is meant to be adharam .I was surprised by Uma 's reaction is he confused or he was so much hurted by kanak that he cannot even apply his mind to think further.But he clearly said he is marrying her for only to fulfil his vachan given to massisa and nothing else he does not have a any feelings towards her even even after knowing very well of uma's feelings she is still ready to accept him how shameless she is palomi wants to marry him forcefully will love can be bought by force.Even she is trying to manipulate uma by using massisa How disgusting she is moreover she is comparing herself with bhakt meera .

Flirty kanak teasing uma but he was annoyed and got irritated more when she was telling about their true love for each other .These were the same lines uma told to Kanak in pushkar to make her understand their relationship is made in heaven and they were meant to be made for each other but that time kanak was annoyed and angry she though they both cannot travel together in life journey as they are poles apart .But uma was confident that their relationship is bonded by Bholenath so it would never and ever break now history repeats kanak is trying to convince him that no legal papers,vachan,or dharam would break their relationship as their true love is above all of this and will surely win she was so confident that no one could separate them as their hearts are connected with each other and both of them cannot live without each other .Kanak is trying to hint him but uma is frustrated angry that he cannot understand anything other than the thought of loosing her.Both of them can feel their pain that shows their priceless love on each other .Why always mangalsutra is been used as a sentimental thing for women .Kanak is ready to loose uma to save his property but she is not ready to loose her mangalsutra she is valuing her mangalsutra as her uma she does not want to loose her mangalsutra at any cost becos she feels if she loses that she will loose uma too.uma tied that too her forcefully and now he tried to remove it by using same force when did uma became this heartless .Why he cannot understand her feelings .As u said his mind heart and soul is entrapped with kanak how can he fulfil a single promise well said Blue.

Hey there Divya
Thank you for reading and a wonderful elaborate comment detailing Uma.

Uma character is being placed in a constant comatose because the FL has to be the savior always.
SP is all promoting new soch, but their new soch is limited to FL taking all footage and ML being dummies. New soch can aptly be promoted when the two wheel work in their own ways yet they move forward together.
Uma understands her reservations but is unable to find for himself.

Originally posted by: blueflames

Hey there
Thank you for reading and commenting. Much appreciated.

Uma is giving all the right expressions, he is tired of being thrown around. He is fed up of the constant games, he refuses to be a part of them anymore... he just wants to get done with things/promises. He is hurt so much that he is as ever more clueless and confused. He says he trusts Kanak etc etc But bhai kuch aqal wale kaam app bhi kar lein, instead of just handing over promises to different ladies, you can do much more than promises.

Thanks for the reply blue...you've said the things I wanted to say...
You like shayri also ?? The shayris you post are very beautiful!

Originally posted by: manasa.123

Thank you blue for your wonderful reply.

Blue, Uma don't have much knowledge about love. he didn't watch movies or love stories as we or Kanak did.

All he read about is Puranas. Puranas had love stories too but love is always took second step before Dharma.
For example, let's look at Rama.

Rama left all his kingdom and went t live in forest because his father asked him to. This only reaffirms that Promise should be kept no matter what and also listen to parents.
After all the trials, when Rama and Seetha also united , Rama sent Seetha to forest when she is pregnant. Again I won't say that correct but from Rama POV, he placed Raja Dharma before his love and wife.

If Uma is reading all these stories, how hard it is for him to break the promise he made to Massisa.

It's all easy for us to connect to Kanak as she's very much today's girl. But we are unable to understand Uma's POV because we are not able to put ourselves in Uma's place and thinking Uma is killing Kanak by taking that Mangalsutra?

Our Kanak very fast became Juliet but our hero will take his time to transfer himself from Rama to Romeo?

Thank you for a wonderful perspective, an understanding into Uma's character.
I don't think love is limited to a certain age or century. Love has been forever, different in its interpretation and actions. Love is the connection between souls.
Even if Uma has read only the Veds and scripture that doesn't mean he doesn't understand love, it's just that his version is not thaaat updated... that software to update his understanding is Kanak. Kanak needs to merge in his system for him to be updated, but whenever Kanak tries that Massi conveniently comes and unplugs him from power and his system crashes worse than before.

Coming back from the systematic analogies - you refer to Shree Ram and give example that he went in exile to keep up a promise and he gave up his wife for Raj dharm- but he is God and rest mere mortals.

Uma looks up to dharma to keep his vows, and he can sacrifice whatever he has be it his own wife - but this is the kalyug, in this age it's hard to be human and he is trying to play God.
It's not I can't relate to Uma, but more like the cvs are intentionally keeping him dumb as it's the law of soap land... Uma was way different initially, he regressed, developed and emerged but in between he got lost...

By taking away the mangalsutra and him killing Kanak was a figure of speech, My apologies if taken otherwise. Both of them are invested in each other that the separation would suffocate them, the reality hasn't hit Uma that hard because Kanak is still in front of his eyes, but from kanaks perspective he is walking away minute by minute due to his promise to Massi. Kanak is right in front of him, he sees her every minute flirting with him and his anger is getting the better of him, the lack of time is confusing him all the more - it's a creative glitch that Uma is alone in his room and Kanak in guest room yet there is no scene of Uma remembering her and her presence in his room - that my dear is kinda creative failure to properly execute the emotions of people involved.

I am way off track - mujhe bs mauka milna chahiye 😳

Thank you for a wonderful perspective, an understanding into Uma's character.
I don't think love is limited to a certain age or century. Love has been forever, different in its interpretation and actions. Love is the connection between souls.
Even if Uma has read only the Veds and scripture that doesn't mean he doesn't understand love, it's just that his version is not thaaat updated... that software to update his understanding is Kanak. Kanak needs to merge in his system for him to be updated, but whenever Kanak tries that Massi conveniently comes and unplugs him from power and his syste m crashes worse than before.

Sometimes I can even outdo my own weirdness 😆

I have no reservations on Uma being dharm ka pakka, staunch ideals to follow, but where is that guy... the cvs have messed up big time. Instead of focusing how people poles apart, with different personalities and perspective can work together towards their happiness and progress in their relationship and life.
But cvs at some point made Uma a blind dummy who was fed only negatively, in name of dharm.

The beauty of this beautiful character sketch has been lost down the way and it's a regret that a golden opportunity was missed.

Mauka to just blabber.