Revealing baby gender before birth - ban?

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Being proactive...as this will soon happen to male child

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7123753.stm

Sad and frustrating.... girl child aborted after learning what gender it is ?

Am not sure...but is it feasible or risk free to abort after learning what gender kiddo is ? no law against it ? sad sad and sad... if there is medical reason or risk to mom's life ...why a planned or unplanned conception should be considered for abortion, I mean there should be a very heart touching reason...orelse really don't why people do that ? not going to true facts ..might be inappropiate...but unable to understand... I mean with so much awareness why such things exists ? So if in India if gender determination legalised we are seldom to hear it's a gurl, in today's age?

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: raj5000

Being proactive...as this will soon happen to male child

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7123753.stm

Sad and frustrating.... girl child aborted after learning what gender it is ?

Am not sure...but is it feasible or risk free to abort after learning what gender kiddo is ? no law against it ? sad sad and sad... if there is medical reason or risk to mom's life ...why a planned or unplanned conception should be considered for abortion, I mean there should be a very heart touching reason...orelse really don't why people do that ? not going to true facts ..might be inappropiate...but unable to understand... I mean with so much awareness why such things exists ? So if in India if gender determination legalised we are seldom to hear it's a gurl, in today's age?

Will read article a bit later. And I think the title should be changed >>>

UK Indian women 'aborting girls' <<< Yes in the article i gather it's the research of Indian Women <<< I think it is a typical thing in our asian culture. Same thing happens. However i don't know why i personally think that the same thing will neevr happen to males because of sterotype views and the differemces between Men and Women. Can't remember in what debate but there was the thing where you said men have to provide for all etc...and because of them views which will be ever lasting it will not happen to baby boy's.
Aborting female babies - Can see no reason why this should happen, no body says you have to get them married with a dowry. Personally again i hate all that stuff - For me it is like selling your child.
Main Reasons Why Expecting Couples go for Gender Determination Test -
    Deciding what color to paint the nursery Telling a dying relative who won't be alive till the baby's birth Naming the child
  • To abort an unwanted child and so on.
Yes a lot of awareness o the issue but nothing will be done on this worldwide.
They have time and time again tried to just change the abortion laws to make them lower as a foetus can survive say at around 22 weeks and you can have an abortion until 24 weeks. They will never be able to actually implement laws of any kind to stop you finding out gender here .
Due to the wide misuse of sex determination technique around the world (i.e. to abort unwanted child that happens to be a girl in maximum cases), gender determination tests have been banned by many countries such as India but yes if it was legalised there, then unlikely to hear it is a girl if the baby is like the 2nd or 3rd girl etc.
Remembering that article where the baby was killed by grandparents because it was a girl
There is some kit you pay for, like a home kit which was i can't remember made or being tried (will look up that) but it basically told you the gender of your baby. So with such stuff being developed- not possible to actually stop people finding out gender and then aborting it - In india - they can easily get hold of such stuff or travel abroad just for this purpose.
Also people upon finding it is a girl, cry etc etc....but then get over it and learn to love their child, seen many cases of this😳
But yeah anyone can easily get an abortio even if in India - knowing the gender is not allowed. Go to the land of the free and do the following:
This CVS diagnostic test is normally carried out when the fetus is between eight and 11 weeks old. In few cases, CVS may be conducted as late as 13 weeks. This particular gender determination test is typically done on people with a high risk of genetic abnormalities and the results are available between seven to 14 days. There is four per cent miscarriage rate in Chorionic Villus Sampling diagnostic test. And there is very little possibility too that the fetus sex it determines may be wrong.
Amniocentisis
The Amniocentisis diagnostic test for determining the sex / gender of a growing fetus is may be carried out as early as nine weeks and for diagnostic purposes, usually on 18 weeks gestation. It carries 1 to1.5 per cent miscarriage risk and one per cent chance of the occurrence of other pregnancy problems such as infection, premature labor, injury to the fetus, cord, or placenta, rupture of membranes and so on. Amniocentisis tests take around two to four weeks time to run. In this process too, there is small chance that the sex it shows in its report may be incorrect.
Ultrasound

This test can be done at any stage of the pregnancy to know the fetus's gender. However, it is best to have an ultrasound between 18 and 26 weeks. Though this is the most popular or frequent technique sought by couples to know the fetus's sex, it is least inaccurate. This is because how accurate its result is for sex determination purpose depends on different reasons like the baby's cooperation, gestational age, technician's ability and so on.

See an abortion rules?? Here 2 doctors consent- having an abortion is probably as easy as waking in and out of yor home.😳 Anyone can say it is a risk to their mental health etc.
Sorry for going way off the debate if i have but end line is Yes if legalised in India, seldom to hear it is a girl- Traditions and Views are passed down generation to generation. And there are always alternatives if couples are determined not to have a girl, and i do not think it will happen to biys in our asian culture as of the typical societal views of men bearing a stromger physiqe and being the househld head etc.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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the sad part is that it does not matter whether it is a boy or a girl - all that matters is whether the parents want the baby or not, for whatever reasons

recently, i heard that they found a baby in the dustbin in some place in Tamil Nadu and the poor people there who found the baby adopted her

now, my problem is, i think it is better to abort a baby rather than throw her in the dustbin for dogs to tear at and die

i don't know, may be I will only when i become a father -

sorry to all fathers and mothers here
Edited by velun - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: velun

the sad part is that it does not matter whether it is a boy or a girl - all that matters is whether the parents want the baby or not, for whatever reasons

recently, i heard that they found a baby in the dustbin in some place in Tamil Nadu and the poor people there who found the baby adopted her

now, my problem is, i think it is better to abort a baby rather than throw her in the dustbin for dogs to tear at and die

i don't know, may be I will only when i become a father -

sorry to all fathers and mothers here

Agreed at bold parts👏 I don't know how you could throw a innocent baby in a dustbin😭 Things like this are sadening. Yes better to bort a child that is not wanted rather than throw it out like rubbish....At least if they never wanted it after birth, go through proper adoption means or leave the baby somewhere where it will be found like a hospital, like someone else did.

Throwing it out like trash is disgusting. The baby was born through no fault of its own - You as the mother gave life to the baby - Why give it a life in the first place if you end up doing something like that. Can understand after birth- emotional distress etc things happen and you no longer want it but no need to throw it to the dogs

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: anon

Agreed at bold parts👏 I don't know how you could throw a innocent baby in a dustbin😭 Things like this are sadening. Yes better to bort a child that is not wanted rather than throw it out like rubbish....At least if they never wanted it after birth, go through proper adoption means or leave the baby somewhere where it will be found like a hospital, like someone else did.

Throwing it out like trash is disgusting. The baby was born through no fault of its own - You as the mother gave life to the baby - Why give it a life in the first place if you end up doing something like that. Can understand after birth- emotional distress etc things happen and you no longer want it but no need to throw it to the dogs

The problem here is that eventually sex-selective abortion will screw up the male-female ratio. That alone will set women back in the dark ages. Women will be viewed more as objects than humans.

There is a movie called Matrubhoomi, which I recently watched. And it is pretty accurate in describing what will happen if females became rare and scarce in villages and towns in India.

The MINDSET has to change. Yes, if you abort the female child, she won't die in the dustbins.

But in the long run, you are screwing up the male-female population and are ENCOURAGING the killing of female fetuses.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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One more thing:

If you can produce a healthy child without problems, you should be thankful to God he gave you that blessing. Don't misuse that blessing in an effort to get your preffered gender. There are people that can't have healthy children or CAN'T have kids at all. They will do ANYTHING for a healthy boy OR GIRL.

People that kill the child over it's gender don't deserve to have kids. Did they even consider that it's probably a healthy child?
Edited by MonicA#1Actress - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Why our Govt and our Medical system allow to check Gender of unborn baby!!!?Why Educated Dr's n other peoples support and helping to do these process? 😕The system n law itself allow you to check the gender.....we cant blame on peoples....just make a law to prevent these kind of things.😳

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Posted: 17 years ago
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when in india, i found out that there are ways to find out from the doctor if it is a girl / a boy anyway..
all stringent protocols of secrecy will not work there.. for example

" lakshmi ji ki kripa hai.. aapkee bahu bilkul tandurust hai, chinta kee baat nahee"

" ram ji kee daya hai.. aapkee bahu bilkul tandurust hai, chinta kee baat nahee"

get that? 😕 i was disgusted when i found that's how things work when law prohibits.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: anon


Agreed at bold parts👏I don't know how you could throw a innocent baby in a dustbin😭Things like this are sadening. Yes better to bort a child that is not wanted rather than throw it out like rubbish....At least if they never wanted it after birth, go through proper adoption means or leave the baby somewhere where it will be found like a hospital, like someone else did.


Throwing it out like trash is disgusting. The baby was born through no fault of its own - You as the mother gave life to the baby - Why give it a life in the first place if you end up doing something like that. Can understand after birth- emotional distress etc things happen and you no longer want it but no need to throw it to the dogs



I don't understand what is the point in having a kid if they want to leave him/her to adoption. Better not to have at all rather than conceive, abort to leave for adoption. After all having a kid is not like buying a toy in the toy shop. Even there you cannot give back a toy that your daughter does not like unless it happens to be Wal-Mart or Target.

But then, I could be an idiot saying all this, because I am not a father yet. Only who are parents will know I guess.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: velun



I don't understand what is the point in having a kid if they want to leave him/her to adoption. Better not to have at all rather than conceive, abort to leave for adoption. After all having a kid is not like buying a toy in the toy shop. Even there you cannot give back a toy that your daughter does not like unless it happens to be Wal-Mart or Target.

But then, I could be an idiot saying all this, because I am not a father yet. Only who are parents will know I guess.

Yes, i know i don't understand choices in that either as i am not a mother nor do i have much knowledge on why people do this😳

I guess they want the baby - and want to see it grow up in the world and as they feel they can not give it proper care they would like to see their baby grow up and have someone looking after it and giving it a better life then they could have after all every child has a right to life😳 and even though they can't give the baby a decent life someone else who can not concieve or wants children will take care of it.

Sometimes when they find they are expecting a baby - it is too late to abort it or they change their mind into the pregnancy and then get the baby adopted. 😳

Only guesses here😳

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