Spoke nothing but FACTSHot take: she only had dancing skills to prop her up as an actress. Men paid to watch her for her naach. The second she became older and couldn't rely on her looks and dancing, all her comebacks failed. Contrast to Sridevi, a real actress, who was successful in all her comebacks.
It’s better to sit at home with dignity then force yourself onto audiences in lame projects like Total DhamaalOriginally posted by: fazgostoso
At least she is doing better than Aishwarya Rai who has no shows, no movies! lol
Madhuri is an average actor.....her beauty and dancing were her saving grace....Sridevi on the other hand was a perfect 10....superb actress, amazing dancer and gorgeous.....she left too soon...
It's funny how quick some are to dismiss Aish's achievements. What other actress can claim these numbers linked below? She beat Salman Khan at the box office which is no small matter (and karmic justice). She is the muse of one of India's most proficient filmmakers, Mani Ratnam. Unlike Bhansali, he does not dump actresses once they are older. In this ensemble cast of the biggest and best of South Indian stars, Aish held her own and proved that she is a pan-Indian star not seen since the likes of Sridevi. South Indians have not forgotten Aish since her first blockbuster Jeans. I have a South Indian friend who knows virtually no actor or film from BW, but she knew Aish and it was all because of Jeans, her favorite film.
Aish played a role that few actresses have ever been able to play in BW, both the female lead and the main villain of this epic series. She has won an award for this performance and I am not surprised to see that in my poll about Favorite Actress Performance in a Negative Role, that Aish is winning over the likes of fellow fan favs like Kajol, Urmila, and PC. It's also not a coincidence that in all the promotion for the Hindi dubs of PS, Aish is the only one showcased. Look at PS-1 on Amazon Prime, the Hindi dub, and it's only Aish's face. The regular version showcases the entire ensemble cast including Aish front and center. Similarly the Hindi dub for PS-2 on Amazon Prime showcases Aish and the male lead in their climactic scene. Clearly, Amazon Prime knows who sells and is the real face of the series outside of South India. All these images are pictured below for non-believers.
(also notice that in the Forbes headline, one of the most prestigious American news sources, the film is labeled as an Aishwarya Rai starrer film. No other name was considered to have as much recognition to be considered important enough to feature in the headline. PS is considered an Aishwarya Rai starrer film. She is truly the face of these movies. Her name still commands this much respect in the west).
One last thing I want to say is that even if Aish's career ended with PS and she never made another movie again for whatever reason of her own, she would have ended on a high note and still have one of the most venerated and respected careers in BW. These cheap actresses from today like KJo's adopted daughter can work until she's 99 and she'll never have that level of love, recognition, and respect from audiences and her peers. Aish's body of work stands inviolate despite base attempts to mock at her legacy. She has nothing to prove to anyone, least of all trolls besotted with Alia's flaring nostrils.
Pls stop comparing madhuri and aishwarya to actress like kareena, aliya, jhanvi, sara etc
I mean madhubala and meena kumari and even nargis never worked after 35 years of age
So are you saying they did not know acting or what? They are only dancers or beautiful or what? Not good actress
Madhuri dixit had everything that a super star actress in bollywood or hollywood had - beauty, smile, grace, dance, acting, adha
Same with aishwarya - she has beauty, grace, smile, dance and acting (may be average but thats fine)
Aishwarya career was sabotaged because of her personal life for many years and instead of doing 100 movies in 12 years like others she did 40-50 may be from 1997 to 2009(when she married and slowed down)
Aishwaraya Rai is the last of classic beauty actress with great looks and dancing ability and even acting
Deepika may have beauty and grace but she could never dance like Ash or madhuri or attract even remote village ppl from 5 year to 95 years to like her
Yes deepika is much better than shradda, alia, annaya by miles
Even today in remotest villages of north east or south india(where they hardly watch hindi movies) madhuri dixit and aishwaray rai pictures adorn every shops like dress and beauty parlour. And 20 years from now still ash and madhuri and deepika pics will adorn those shops not aliya, annaya, jhanvis.
That is their biggest achievement in life
85 or 95 year old villagers men and women who have never gone to theater to watch a movie in life know who is madhuri and aishwarya thats enough achievement in life(that too 30-35 years after they started acting)
if this is not achievement what else is achievement that you started acting in 80s or 90s and in 2024 your pics adorn every shop in south and north east india where hindi movies do not even get screened in theaters
Its like saying elizabeth taylor or audrey heburn or grace kelly are not good actress just because they did not work in serials or OTT or have instagram accounts
s 50 years from now or 100 years from now only aishwarya and madhuri and madhuabala and nargis will be remembered by those gens - if thats not achievement what else do we call achievement?
Madhuri is definitely one of the iconic stars. But yes I never connected with her acting. Too TV soapish for me. But as a dancer she was fab.
Sridevi on the other hand was probably the best all rounder actress India (not just Bollywood) has ever had.
Beauty parlor's connection with acting.Originally posted by: myviewprem
Pls stop comparing madhuri and aishwarya to actress like kareena, aliya, jhanvi, sara etc
I mean madhubala and meena kumari and even nargis never worked after 35 years of age
So are you saying they did not know acting or what? They are only dancers or beautiful or what? Not good actress
Madhuri dixit had everything that a super star actress in bollywood or hollywood had - beauty, smile, grace, dance, acting, adha
Same with aishwarya - she has beauty, grace, smile, dance and acting (may be average but thats fine)
Aishwarya career was sabotaged because of her personal life for many years and instead of doing 100 movies in 12 years like others she did 40-50 may be from 1997 to 2009(when she married and slowed down)
Aishwaraya Rai is the last of classic beauty actress with great looks and dancing ability and even acting
Deepika may have beauty and grace but she could never dance like Ash or madhuri or attract even remote village ppl from 5 year to 95 years to like her
Yes deepika is much better than shradda, alia, annaya by miles
Even today in remotest villages of north east or south india(where they hardly watch hindi movies) madhuri dixit and aishwaray rai pictures adorn every shops like dress and beauty parlour. And 20 years from now still ash and madhuri and deepika pics will adorn those shops not aliya, annaya, jhanvis.
That is their biggest achievement in life
85 or 95 year old villagers men and women who have never gone to theater to watch a movie in life know who is madhuri and aishwarya thats enough achievement in life(that too 30-35 years after they started acting)
if this is not achievement what else is achievement that you started acting in 80s or 90s and in 2024 your pics adorn every shop in south and north east india where hindi movies do not even get screened in theaters
Its like saying elizabeth taylor or audrey heburn or grace kelly are not good actress just because they did not work in serials or OTT or have instagram accounts
s 50 years from now or 100 years from now only aishwarya and madhuri and madhuabala and nargis will be remembered by those gens - if thats not achievement what else do we call achievement?
Originally posted by: myviewprem
Pls stop comparing madhuri and aishwarya to actress like kareena, aliya, jhanvi, sara etc
I mean madhubala and meena kumari and even nargis never worked after 35 years of age
So are you saying they did not know acting or what? They are only dancers or beautiful or what? Not good actress
Madhuri dixit had everything that a super star actress in bollywood or hollywood had - beauty, smile, grace, dance, acting, adha
Same with aishwarya - she has beauty, grace, smile, dance and acting (may be average but thats fine)
Aishwarya career was sabotaged because of her personal life for many years and instead of doing 100 movies in 12 years like others she did 40-50 may be from 1997 to 2009(when she married and slowed down)
Aishwaraya Rai is the last of classic beauty actress with great looks and dancing ability and even acting
Deepika may have beauty and grace but she could never dance like Ash or madhuri or attract even remote village ppl from 5 year to 95 years to like her
Yes deepika is much better than shradda, alia, annaya by miles
Even today in remotest villages of north east or south india(where they hardly watch hindi movies) madhuri dixit and aishwaray rai pictures adorn every shops like dress and beauty parlour. And 20 years from now still ash and madhuri and deepika pics will adorn those shops not aliya, annaya, jhanvis.
That is their biggest achievement in life
85 or 95 year old villagers men and women who have never gone to theater to watch a movie in life know who is madhuri and aishwarya thats enough achievement in life(that too 30-35 years after they started acting)
if this is not achievement what else is achievement that you started acting in 80s or 90s and in 2024 your pics adorn every shop in south and north east india where hindi movies do not even get screened in theaters
Its like saying elizabeth taylor or audrey heburn or grace kelly are not good actress just because they did not work in serials or OTT or have instagram accounts
s 50 years from now or 100 years from now only aishwarya and madhuri and madhuabala and nargis will be remembered by those gens - if thats not achievement what else do we call achievement?
Beautifully and perfectly said. This idea that an actress has stopped working so her legacy has been undercut is so misogynistic in nature since actresses have never been allowed to have the same shelf life and opportunities as their male contemporaries. As you said, some of the greats didn't last very long in films but they're still iconic and beloved to this day.
The likes of Jhanvi and her contemporaries can say they will keep acting in films and never go away until audiences accept them but by that logic, she'll probably make 100-200 films in her lifetime. Will she be remembered for any of them? Doubtful.
As for Madhuri's comebacks, I don't know why they didn't work for whatever reason. But I can say that films should not be judged solely by box office success. Aaja Nachle has always been a favorite of mine and I said in another thread too that while it may not have been considered a hit, the song was a major hit that still plays in functions to this day and everybody remembers her iconic blue outfit. Gulaab Gang brought two 90s greats together onscreen for the first time. Maja Ma gave us the first time a mainstream actress has played a lesbian, and not just any mainstream actress, but an icon of the screen. The Fame Game showed us a new facet of Madhuri that films would never allow her to display, with a character tinged with negative shades. Kalank, I'll admit, amongst her comebacks was her worst and gave her nothing to do. Generally speaking that was Sridevi's role originally but I don't think she would have been able to save it either in such a thankless part surrounded by a weak cast.
It seems like if Madhuri has any fault, it's that she's not Sridevi and everyone can unanimously agree that nobody was like Sridevi. Everyone paled in comparison to her so if that's Madhuri's only lacking, I'll say she's quite well off.
Devdas gave us these two great icons of the screen some of their most iconic roles. Dola Re Dola will forever be an Indian anthem and despite attempts to replicate it in future films, nothing has ever come close. The Aishwarya troll thread had a wonderfully stated post talking about how Kajra Re was the Choli Ke Peeche of the 2000s and I think that goes to show how both Madhuri and Aishwarya are linked in popularity. Each had the most popular song of their respective decade. These nepogang actresses can do as many item songs as they want but they all fizzle out and flop. Kareena has done how many dozens of item songs with her mediocre dancing and over the top expressions, and literally none of them have had any impact. She thought she could be the #1 heroine with item songs and attaching herself to movies starring the Khans in negligible roles but she only demonstrated how lacking she is as an actress and star. Aishwarya rarely did item songs but the ones she did like Kajra Re and Ishq Kameena play everywhere to this day.
Out of the newest crop of actresses, Deepika is the only one who comes close and will have a similar legacy. She is definitely closer on the scale to Madhuri and Aishwarya than she is to Alia, Jhanvi, Sara, Ananya, Kareena, etc. Notice that Madhuri, Aishwarya, and Deepika are all self-made and each became a superstar overnight between Tezaab, Jeans, and Om Shanti Om.
"Madhuri Dixit was not a real actress"...just a provoking topic title.
Of course, she was, with her very own talents that made her the star she became.
I don't favour comparisons as each actress has her own personality that makes her being loved, liked or not loved and liked...judged in a positive or in a negative way mostly lies in the eyes of the beholder/ is a matter of personal opinion...so nothing to generalize.
Madhuri got her place in the Hindi Cinema Pantheon...and I think, rightly so.
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