Rape in a patriarchal society

Posted: 1 years ago

First off all rape of sexual abuse in companies or work place is not taken seriously in entire asia 


Its blamed on victim only saying she went out at night she wore modern dress she arguesd with rapsit she dared cross limits set to woman by society etc 


And here in anupama rape has become a real joke 


Pakhi was born because vanraj raped anupama, but anupama thinks vanraj loved her so wanted pakhi 


Vanraj raped anupama so he can stop her from going to USA to make her pregnant and tie her down to home only. So that anupama never becomes indepen and go more higher than him. 


Next comes Malvika rape by her husband. Someone brought up in USA and modern educated was hit in belt every night raped by husband ever night yet anuj never bothered to file case in USA on this man


Not only that instead of providing support to Malvika taking her to counselor he let her roam world sleep on park benches for 10 years. This is a US educated man anuj kapadiya who treated his sister so badly giving bashan and shayari on men at stranger girls rape today what a joke? This US returned uneducated fool was shocked to know Malvika is on depressants what a joke? 


Further when vanraj targeted Malvika instead of saving her being with her he choose anupama over Malvika and walked off like a martyr leaving her with demon Vanraj 


And today anuj kapdiyas all acts look so shallow because a sister is more closer to an human than a stranger girl. When you did not bother or even bothering now after wedding about Malvika your crocodile tears for dimple does not melt viewers hearts.  


Regarding anupamal east talked about her is better she kept quiet when vanraj had pakhi by rape and today talking marital rape, she kept quiet when toshu had affair when kinjal was pregnant, she is acting so upset at dimples gang rape who will believe this lady? Shes making gang rape on a young 25 year old into a propaganda to give bashans to all crazy stuff


Next is samar marrying a rape victim. Samar may be sensitive but hes not that great a human too how he threw nandini engagement ring on her face and told her to get out. Samar loves his toxic family like we saw in nandini case so he may not be able to stand up to abuse by shahs for dimple


Further just like Malvika, the rape victims get painc attacks they get angry violent are scared of all men etc now and than. Even counselling may not really cure their trauma. Is samar capable to handle her. When anuj at 45 did not know how to handle Malvika in panic attacks and started crying how can samar handle a rape victim wife? So Shah house is not right house or family for a rape victim. Kavya only Baa keeps saying maida ki katorii because shes divorcee. Imagine how they treat a raped bahu?  


Anuj and anupama are not capable ppl to handle rape victims its proved by how they treat Malvika. Anupam athinks breaking pillow into pieces is punishment enough for rapist hubby by malvika what a joke? After getting raped by hubby for a year instead of saving her from vanraj the demon woman abuser, for love anuj left her with bhediya vanraj and walked off with anupama. If this is how anuj and anupama treat own family whose raped how they will treat outsider girl not related to them at all. 


Instead of samar marrying rape victim i think adhik is better candidate to marry her actually. 


Or introduce a cousin of anuj or a son from US affair whose 25 year old who will marry rape victim 


Shah family is highly patriarchal and old fashioned thinking to allow a rape victim to be bahu and treat her nicely all life. They never behaved properly with aone woman in their home be it bahu or daughters or anuj sister. Anupama was removed from home at night for coming late from shopping, dollys property share was snatched by vanraj, kavya is ill treated often, little anu is treated badly as shes orphan, pakhi was thrown on roads after marraige, devika is taunted as shes divorced, anupama mom has no respect as shes poor, nandini was thrown out by vanraj and samar,  Anuj sister malvika was used and thrown as per Vanraj and shah family convience. etc so what makes you think they will treat gang raped woman better?

Edited by myviewprem - 1 years ago
Posted: 1 years ago

Malvika n anupama were not raped.

Anupama was impregnated by her husband it wasn't forced. Though vanraj's husband were malafide.

Malvika too wasn't raped. She was beaten by her husband. Anuj may have wanted to file a case but he can't until victim herself gives a statement. 

Malvika was running away from her issues. Even anuj didn't knew where she is. In vanraj malvika case we have seen Anuj had no control over malvika's decision. Even if he wanted to file a case malvika might have ran away.

Edited by naaznin - 1 years ago
Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by naaznin


Malvika n anupama were not raped.

Anupama was impregnated by her husband it wasn't forced. Though vanraj's husband were malafide.

Malvika too wasn't raped. She was beaten by her husband. Anuj may have wanted to file a case but he can't until victim herself gives a statement. 

Malvika was running away from her issues. Even anuj didn't knew where she is. In vanraj malvika case we have seen Anuj had no control over malvika's decision. Even if he wanted to file a case malvika might have ran away.

AnupaMaa was raped by Vanraj that night. Sexual intercourse without consent or mabipulated consent is rape. Vanraj manipulated AnupaMaa to have sex with him. He pretended he was making love to her. If he told her that he was sleeping with her only to impregnate her, do you think she would have consented? 

 

Posted: 1 years ago

Not to mention how they will treat Dimple as some charity (sorry not trying to be insensitive) it won't be about her learning to get past her trauma, her fight to get stable mentally and physically and her fight with the goons... it would be look how great Samar for marrying her. They (Anupamaa's monologues) will constantly say that she isn't "impure" just cause she is a victim of an horrendous act but they will show just the opposite. Her struggles as a victim will be over looked by the greatness of Anu-Anuj and Samar. Baa will taunt her (those two neighbors aunties will join) and Sanar will support her and later on Baa will apologize (may also take a stand for her) and all will be forgiven. 


Like what they did with Anupamaa... like that women has been mentally tortured for 25-36 years... yet Baa Baa Baa more than her own mother (who once told her to stay in the marriage regardless but she has evolved, excepted her mistake and changed... not Baa Baa Black Sheep). Like they have us belive that taunts were love. They preach move on and yet have her running back to that toxic house every second. 


They preached Kinjal shouldn't compromise amd stay with a man who doesnt respect her... and yet "ghar nahi todo" bs again. Like they did black mail her into staying for Pari's sake who mind you is technically living with her kidnapper who used to call her unlucky before her birth. Are we really just gonna skip that over for Toshu. I feel they kinda justified Toshu's "body needs" more than Kinjal's heartbreak. Like Toshu has been a toxic partner since the beginning and kinda came across as a gild digger with the whole apartment thing. 


Kavya.... yes she was vile to Anu... but serious even after her marriage letting Anu stay there and telling Kavya only Anu is their 'dil chahi" bahu. Like you didn't like her when she was actually your bahu now why ruin lives of both those women


And the new Pakhi stand up on your feet.....  more like Pakhi get off mommy's feet and stand pm Adhik's feet. Honestly should thank the guy for marrying your brat. 


Also I don't  understand Vanraj so it's okay if he kicks Pakhi out but not when Anu does it. 


Show trys to preach equality and preach how we shouldn't take women in our lives for granted, and they preach about women's rights but they end up doing the opposite. 

Edited by DailySoapBai - 1 years ago
Posted: 1 years ago
Originally posted by naaznin


Malvika n anupama were not raped.

Anupama was impregnated by her husband it wasn't forced. Though vanraj's husband were malafide.

Malvika too wasn't raped. She was beaten by her husband. Anuj may have wanted to file a case but he can't until victim herself gives a statement. 

Malvika was running away from her issues. Even anuj didn't knew where she is. In vanraj malvika case we have seen Anuj had no control over malvika's decision. Even if he wanted to file a case malvika might have ran away.


No anuj saw her raped and badly beaten the day he went to meet her 


It was told by anuj only that i cannot say such kind of torture was done on Malvika 


Its understood her husband raped her as per his will and wish 


Love is different from rape by husband 


Problem is in society husband has right to rape wife and society keeps quiet if wife is beaten or raped by husband as internal affair


But say west wife can put case on hubby for hitting her or raping her and police and court takes it seriously - in india putting fir is tough as no one will accept hubby can rape a wife too


Anuj knew where she was from social media and bank data - its just that he did not bother to go and get her back home as that time she was not his priority at that time 


Even when he got serious by head hit in hospital when she called hesaid why you called not how you are as a concerned elder brother. 

Edited by myviewprem - 1 years ago
Posted: 1 years ago
Originally posted by MOTHERHOOD


AnupaMaa was raped by Vanraj that night. Sexual intercourse without consent or mabipulated consent is rape. Vanraj manipulated AnupaMaa to have sex with him. He pretended he was making love to her. If he told her that he was sleeping with her only to impregnate her, do you think she would have consented? 

 


In asia there is no real concept of rape by husband society do not accept that hubby can rape wife 

Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by MOTHERHOOD


AnupaMaa was raped by Vanraj that night. Sexual intercourse without consent or mabipulated consent is rape. Vanraj manipulated AnupaMaa to have sex with him. He pretended he was making love to her. If he told her that he was sleeping with her only to impregnate her, do you think she would have consented? 

 

No dear , Anupmaa wasn't raped , There is nothing known as "manipulated consent" in the definition of "Rape" .......Anupamaa was never forced in anyway ...She had given her consent with all her consciousness, she wasn't a minor.....Neither she was drunk nor she was mentally disabled ....There are so many  cases where a "guy" slept with a girl promising her that they will get married but later he deceived her .....In such cases there is no charge of "Rape" is being slapped on the convict untill and unless  the victim is a minor , this is considered as fraud or blackmailing


 So, yeah what Vanraj did was emotional abuse , blackmailing and fraud , she could have divorced Vanraj on these grounds .....but sorry no "Rape" as she was never FORCED......

P.S. you can search on google for the exact defination ....... you'll find it on Wiki .......

Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by MOTHERHOOD


AnupaMaa was raped by Vanraj that night. Sexual intercourse without consent or mabipulated consent is rape. Vanraj manipulated AnupaMaa to have sex with him. He pretended he was making love to her. If he told her that he was sleeping with her only to impregnate her, do you think she would have consented? 

 

Rape nahin tha voh dear,yes what Vanraj did was wrong,but Anupama had consented to it willingly,keeping aside the fact that she didn't know his real intentions, but she wasn't forced or manipulated consent jaisa kuch nahin hota. 

Posted: 1 years ago

Sorry but that's incorrect. If a man has sex with a woman by promising to marry her but had no intention to keep that promise, it constitutes rape. It's only if he had the intention to keep the promise but later circumstances change and he doesn't want to marry her or they can't get married, he can't be held liable.

This is on the basis of Section 90 of the Indian Penal Code - 

90. Consent known to be given under fear or misconception:

A consent is not such a consent as it intended by any section of this Code, if the consent is given by a person under fear of injury, or under a misconception of fact, and if the person doing the act knows, or has reason to believe, that the consent was given in consequence of such fear or misconception; or Consent of insane person.: if the consent is given by a person who, from unsoundness of mind, or intoxication, is unable to understand the nature and consequence of that to which he gives his consent; or Consent of child.: unless the contrary appears from the context, if the consent is given by a person who is under twelve years of age.


So the same could be applied in the case of Vanraj and Anupama as well, since it was a misconception of fact by Anupama at the time and Vanraj was aware of the same. It does constitute marital rape.

Edited by lalaland23 - 1 years ago
Posted: 1 years ago

In case of the law you always have to read several provisions together. Just the definition doesn't give a full picture of the circumstances, exceptions, meaning of every term (such as consent) etc. So by law, Vanraj did rape Anupama, only problem is it would be very difficult to prove in court. 



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