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What should've Rajesh ideally done after Pooja's death to take care of his child?

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Posted: 4 years ago
#21

Another option - Letting Nisha & Prem raise the kid and Rajesh having ‘fun’

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Posted: 4 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: hotchoco

I was never a fan of this movie but it's something that definitely happens in India sometimes. Women are replaceable and if one dies, the sister is dropped into the old one's life so nobody else's life is disrupted.

The people who can write essays in English on a site like this are from the privileged class and get an extremely different version of India than what exists for millions.

I have personally witnessed the most bizarre things. My aunt married into a family in which there was a couple who had twin girls. They were so unhappy having girls that they gave one of the girls (the dark skinned one, I swear) to their sibling. Just gave away their own kid. The girls grew up together as "cousins" where the biological mom would keep bragging about how hers is more fair skinned and things like that. It's like she had no emotional attachment at all to the other kid. The other girl had such a sad life that her adopted mom died when she was a teenager. The biological mom still didn't step up and help her own daughter. My aunt is the one who tries to care for her now even though they are quite distant relations but since she has nobody else, someone had to step up.

I know BW movies show stupid things sometimes but all this kind of crap does happen in society. Most of us just don't witness it because we're from the privileged class.


Internalized misogyny and colorism run deep but your aunt's story is outrageous on another level.😲 People don't even spare their own kids but why am I surprised, female feticide is still practiced in so many parts there.


Anyways, I have lived in a third world country even though I'm not from India, so my perspective isn't stemming from a super privileged place, completely divorced from the home front. Even though I'll admit that my chair is pretty comfy right now, I've seen both sides and women have no agency in many parts in the indian subcontinent, which I am completely against no matter where I live and what I do. Of course, I have seen women being forced into marriages with their bro-in-law to salvage the guy's life and I find it outrageous no matter how often it happens and how normalized it is. But when a forced marriage like that is happening under such unfavorable circumstances and the entire khandaan is shown celebrating and merry-making in a movie, you do feel sorry for the girl and an almost callous indifference of others towards her life. One can't help but protest for her rights. I mean, if the "privileged" ones stop criticizing that kind of lunacy, who will?! That conversation not happening at all is more detrimental.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Give up his parental rights, let Nisha adopt the baby, then groan and moan all his life trying to be a part of the child's life and then have the child ask Hum Aapke Hain Koun and voila we have part 2 of rona dhona ready where the child will now leave Rajesh in NIsha's care because he too cannot take care of Rajesh alone 🤣🤣 Nisha's only struggle all her life has been to remain fit to wear the awful green white ghagra choli to all functions in the meantime 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Recently, A woman died during child birth as she was suffering from COVID19, her family members are all set to marry off her younger sister to her husband so she can take care of the baby


I can only cringe at this kind of situation but who am I to judge? Its not illegal as for Rajesh, he should have hired a nanny or Nisha's parents could come live with them, the family was small and they got along pretty well, her mom could have taken care of the child with Rajesh learning to be a single father

Imagine the dynamics between Samdhi and Samdhan who I think were hitting on each other

@bold, yep samdhi, samdhan and samdhan's husband had a golden chance to indulge in threesomes.

Missed opportunity!!!

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Posted: 4 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: SmittenKitten


Emotionally blackmailing someone into compliance is force. She wasn't held at gunpoint, sure, but she was forced to keep up the act cuz they all went on full celebration mode, acting like her sister never died and everything was gonna be hunky and dory again, with absolutely no regard for her own life, desires and wishes.... JUST because she said yes to the marriage, thinking the proposal was from Prem. When SO much is riding on your accidental yes, or at least when everyone around you is making you feel that way, you are forced in a way by their grand expectations, to keep up the act ...especially during those times for a woman whose life revolved around her family.


So her marrying her bro-in-law is ridiculous for me to get on board cuz that is one huge blot on people and their problem-solving skills. There were a million other ways for her to be near the baby without marrying her bro-in-law. I also blame Prem for letting it happen like a mute spectator ... without so much as an attempt to clear the confusion with his own brother. Did he think his brother was so ecstatic about the marriage that he couldn't even bring himself to break his heart?! Who knows ... they were all acting like they found THE perfect solution to the problem namely depressed Rajesh and his poor baby.


Perhaps their family wasn't as big as it appeared in all those songs and games and I am okay with retracting my take there. Another irksome part about it is the urgency to immediately fill in the vacancy of Rajesh's wife and the baby's mother. It just couldn't wait cuz he was so depressed he started roaming around with a shawl on at all times. They were still mourning, for God's sake. ALL of them, including Nisha who lost her sister and was much closer to her than anyone else. Not just him.


The more I'm gathering my thoughts on the movie, the more ridiculous I'm finding it. smiley36 It was a thoroughly entertaining movie at least up till the tragic death but I don't remember feeling this peeved while watching it.

Actually Rajesh does asks Nisha again whether if she's happy or atleast fine with their marriage.

But as usual neither Nisha nor Prem said anything, because both thought that they were giving a huge balidaan by sacrificing their love. They too thought that it's more important to somehow give the baby a mother.

None of the family members actually had a problem with getting Nisha married to Prem instead of Rajesh, so it's unfair to say they were forcing her. If she herself started feeling guilty and didn't have the brains to clear things out, you can't blame others for that.

And if I'm not wrong, Rajesh and Nisha's marriage was going to happen atleast after 9 months of Pooja's death.

They don't actually show how much time is passed since Pooja's death to talks of Rajesh marriage with Nisha to their actual wedding ceremony.

Because in the end Rajesh and Prem's aunt Bhagwati (that modern woman who gets slapped by her husband and shamed for not giving him a baby), is shown pregnant full-term. I mean that was obviously Sooraj Barjatya wanting to give every character a happy ending in the film.😆

But that obviously means a considerable amount of time had passed since Pooja's death, because Bhagwati can't get pregnant full-term overnight. Prem and Nisha most likely had almost one year to clear things out but they didn't.

So I'll say no one was more dumb than the protagonists in the film.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: hotchoco

I was never a fan of this movie but it's something that definitely happens in India sometimes. Women are replaceable and if one dies, the sister is dropped into the old one's life so nobody else's life is disrupted.

The people who can write essays in English on a site like this are from the privileged class and get an extremely different version of India than what exists for millions.

I have personally witnessed the most bizarre things. My aunt married into a family in which there was a couple who had twin girls. They were so unhappy having girls that they gave one of the girls (the dark skinned one, I swear) to their sibling. Just gave away their own kid. The girls grew up together as "cousins" where the biological mom would keep bragging about how hers is more fair skinned and things like that. It's like she had no emotional attachment at all to the other kid. The other girl had such a sad life that her adopted mom died when she was a teenager. The biological mom still didn't step up and help her own daughter. My aunt is the one who tries to care for her now even though they are quite distant relations but since she has nobody else, someone had to step up.

I know BW movies show stupid things sometimes but all this kind of crap does happen in society. Most of us just don't witness it because we're from the privileged class.

My parents also can't write essays on a site like this but they still won't indulge or support such stupidity of getting a woman married to her brother-in-law after her sister's death.

But again that could be because of how well I've raised them.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#27

Then there would be no story in the movie

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Posted: 4 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: AwaamKiJaan

Actually Rajesh does asks Nisha again whether if she's happy or atleast fine with their marriage.

But as usual neither Nisha nor Prem said anything, because both thought that they were giving a huge balidaan by sacrificing their love. They too thought that it's more important to somehow give the baby a mother.

None of the family members actually had a problem with getting Nisha married to Prem instead of Rajesh, so it's unfair to say they were forcing her. If she herself started feeling guilty and didn't have the brains to clear things out, you can't blame others for that.

And if I'm not wrong, Rajesh and Nisha's marriage was going to happen atleast after 9 months of Pooja's death.

They don't actually show how much time is passed since Pooja's death to talks of Rajesh marriage with Nisha to their actual wedding ceremony.

Because in the end Rajesh and Prem's aunt Bhagwati (that modern woman who gets slapped by her husband and shamed for not giving him a baby), is shown pregnant full-term. I mean that was obviously Sooraj Barjatya wanting to give every character a happy ending in the film.😆

But that obviously means a considerable amount of time had passed since Pooja's death, because Bhagwati can't get pregnant full-term overnight. Prem and Nisha most likely had almost one year to clear things out but they didn't.

So I'll say no one was more dumb than the protagonists in the film.


I agree that Nisha and Prem were extremely stupid about it. Hopefully, in a real life scenario, someone like Nisha would be brave enough to stand up for herself ... though some of the stories people are sharing here are quite sad.


But I won't even for a second buy that the family members and Rajesh showed any sign of care or consideration towards Nisha and her life no matter how many times they asked her for reassurance with the decision. They all did her wrong. Rajesh was okay with the prospect of Nisha sacrificing her life to keep his family going and so were the rest of the family members, and that is problematic enough on their end.


Sacrificing her life to step in her dead sister's shoes to mother her child and play wife with her husband is simply not okay no matter how much time had passed in between the sister's death and the wedding.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Hired a nanny but with so man dozens of family members, why was that even needed. The entire movie was so childish and idiotic. 😆


Samdhan-samdhi romance 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: 2RsFan

Then there would be no story in the movie


Yeah, there would be no story, no blockbuster and no privileged class outraging about it and still talking about it 27 yrs later...


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