The wielding of power reveals who you are - Page 2

Originally posted by: Lodestar

Nice topic AY!!!

I will just elaborate on this idiom about power vis a vis Imlie & Dementor Didi's power over Adi.

From the moment Adi has realised his feelings for Imlie, he has surrendered himself to her. He has given her all the rights & power over himself. He repeatedly tells the same to Imlie- that you have the right on me, I will always support you & wait for you, you claim me as your husband. If Imlie wanted, she could have had Adi tell the truth of their marriage to Dementor Didi at anytime & get the rightful position of his wife. Adi would tell the truth to Dementor Didi in 2 mins & move ahead in his relationship with Imlie if Imlie wants it.

But Imlie doesn't want to snatch the happiness of Dementor Didi & hence does not use this power that Adi has given her. Also the power that Adi has given to Imlie in their relationship is more significant because it not only comes because they are married but because he loves her.

On the other hand, Dementor Didi uses her position of being Adi's wife & being in a relationship with him for 7 years as a tool to make him come to heel when he does anything that is different from what she herself believes in. And this is not a recent development after she got suspicious regarding Adi-Imlie. It has been there right from the start- extracting unrealistic promise from Adi of never fighting with her, making a public spectacle of even minor disagreements between them, etc. If Adi does not agree with her pov about any thing, then she coerces him into submission by involving the family members. Also always painting Adi as the bad husband who fights with the adjusting wife.

Now since she has actively become suspicious about Adi harbouring feelings about Imlie, she uses her position as his wife & bahu of T house to demean Imlie continuously. Be it her dismissing Imlie's hard earned achievement of being a state topper, rudely scolding her about learning manners, who can forget about the sindoor tamasha. She is so petty that she even used her position to rudely tell Imlie to sit in the backseat of the car when she was sitting in the front seat😆. Even after coming to the conclusion that Adi doesn't love her, she is still back in T house & hoping that Adi would still continue being married to her. She just cannot let go of the label of being his wife.

So yes, the welding of power does indeed reveal who you actually are as a person.

@bold: Bingo....this abuse of power is hardly new. So it amuses me even more when people say ki haaye bechaari is only lashing out at Imlie cuz she is feeling neglected in her marriage and feels usurped by Imlie. The truth is that she has been abusing the power and rights she has been given in Adi's life since a long time through her twisted manipulations to always guilt trip him and keep him groveling in agreement to boost her own self-worth.

Imlie's entry has only revealed to Adi that there is a different way of being in a relationship than just feeling beholden to someone in guilt😆.....otherwise Malini had abused her power to the max in convincing Adi that this is all there is to life and relationships. All she's done now is escalate that abuse of her power to scapegoat Imlie and feel entitled towards demeaning her.

And then yes, as you said....Imlie has never abused the power she's been given...even now when Adi is openly giving her rights on him, rights on his life, she is refusing to wield that power out of regard for someone else. That is the difference.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I feel like this dialogue from the Professor yesterday deserves a special mention alag se..... "If you want to get the measure of someone's character, give them power and see what they do with it".

The whole episode was such a study built on this dialogue. We all saw how Imlie didn't abuse the power that she was given, however briefly. It would be easy to assume that she couldn't do anything to fight back against her tormentors cuz she wasn't in a position of power or privilege....but even when she was given that power briefly, she didn't abuse it.....this shows that the core of her character is pure and compassionate. She doesn't believe in running down people even if she has the power to punish them.

What a 180 degree contrast from Malini ji and her mahaan mom. Let's just start with the basic point that these two women are SWIMMING in privilege and power and have NO gratefulness for it. Instead they are filled with ENTITLEMENT from top to bottom.

The Professor's power test can easily be applied on Malini's recent behavior to show how it revealed her true character. She is currently in a position of power and privilege as compared to Imlie.....both because of her wealth, background, as well as her status as Tripathi house ki bahu....and how does she use this power? To DEMEAN Imlie, to RUN HER DOWN as not having achieved much simply by coming second in her exam.....snapping at her to learn manners....calling her "naukraani".....where else would all this come from if not a core of obnoxiousness over your privilege and power? That is who Malini is, for all her endless bechaargi waale aansu. Her abuse of the power she gets reveals who she really is.

AC is the same....just much more OBVIOUS in her abuse of the power and privilege she has in life. But it's ironic how the fear and paranoia of both mother-daughter compels them to instantly run down Imlie on the basis of her background and demean her educational achievements as not being a big deal......lol as if those educational achievements threaten their stature of power in this society so they must label her worthless to prop up their own illusion of power.....lol

Imlie doesn't crave power, yet she automatically earns admiration through the way she conducts herself in resolving conflicts, managing relationships. This is something that Malini and her mom are incapable of so they are destined to marinate in their delusions.

Power in general corrupts people and when it is given to entitled brats they just abuse it like no other.

Both Loservedi women have inferiority complex. AC has stayed with a man for last 19 years knowing that he doesnt love her.. definitely has been unfaithful but the privileges she gets from DC are just too much to give up on. She is fueling her own ego on a false power. The power, money and privileges are DCs but manipulator that she is, she keeps on saying its all because of her.

For AC imlie is faux target. She sees that PD took everything from her and Imlie represents the same place and unfortunately M is also going through the same problems that D n A are going so without any introspection the power wielder is torturing Imlie.

Malini is a different shade of AC. She garners power from being bechari victim. She has gains the power by sympathy. She always manipulated situationto her own advantage. Even when she was showing her actual face and berating Imlie she managed to gain sympathy by saying "I dont have haq of a wife" instantly putting Aditya down. Everything she did n said was brushed under the rug as she tried suicide. Her power manipultions are a different level. You can hate AC but to see malini's abuse u will have to dig far deeper.

The moment AC used the "marks lane se kuch nahi hoga" dialogue.. i was like yeah this is what "Angoor khatte hai" looks like. They have achieved nothing and i mean absolutely NOTHING on their own. Everything they have is someone else's achievement. Be is Devs money and fame or be it Aditya's Award. Thats what makes them see red in Imlie as she is thriving on her own.. without father's or Husbands name... money..

Imlie's power is her faith and faith can be anything but Corrupt. Thats why she will never ever do any harm to anyone.

Originally posted by: _Seera_

Power in general corrupts people and when it is given to entitled brats they just abuse it like no other.

Both Loservedi women have inferiority complex. AC has stayed with a man for last 19 years knowing that he doesnt love her.. definitely has been unfaithful but the privileges she gets from DC are just too much to give up on. She is fueling her own ego on a false power. The power, money and privileges are DCs but manipulator that she is, she keeps on saying its all because of her.

For AC imlie is faux target. She sees that PD took everything from her and Imlie represents the same place and unfortunately M is also going through the same problems that D n A are going so without any introspection the power wielder is torturing Imlie.

Malini is a different shade of AC. She garners power from being bechari victim. She has gains the power by sympathy. She always manipulated situationto her own advantage. Even when she was showing her actual face and berating Imlie she managed to gain sympathy by saying "I dont have haq of a wife" instantly putting Aditya down. Everything she did n said was brushed under the rug as she tried suicide. Her power manipultions are a different level. You can hate AC but to see malini's abuse u will have to dig far deeper.

The moment AC used the "marks lane se kuch nahi hoga" dialogue.. i was like yeah this is what "Angoor khatte hai" looks like. They have achieved nothing and i mean absolutely NOTHING on their own. Everything they have is someone else's achievement. Be is Devs money and fame or be it Aditya's Award. Thats what makes them see red in Imlie as she is thriving on her own.. without father's or Husbands name... money..

Imlie's power is her faith and faith can be anything but Corrupt. Thats why she will never ever do any harm to anyone.

Well said, Seera ji....especially the bits in bold👍🏼.

I do think though that you might be slightly off about the money dynamics in the AC-DC marriage😆....DC is not the one that brought money into it, AC did.....he was the poorer one of the two and gained traction for his career after marrying her.....she rubbed it in his face in some scene too that her father's money helped launch Dev ka painting career. So that's another layer of toxicity between them since she uses that sense of entitlement that her own money is what made Dev so he has no right to dispute anything she says.

But yes, she absolutely hates PD with a passion and Imlie is a proxy target for her since her being from PD triggers AC ki saari insecurities and paranoia.

Yes, the sum of it all is that power in general does corrupt people but the few who are able to wield it responsibly show their strength of character....Imlie is one of those rare few😊.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: Bingo....this abuse of power is hardly new. So it amuses me even more when people say ki haaye bechaari is only lashing out at Imlie cuz she is feeling neglected in her marriage and feels usurped by Imlie. The truth is that she has been abusing the power and rights she has been given in Adi's life since a long time through her twisted manipulations to always guilt trip him and keep him groveling in agreement to boost her own self-worth.

Imlie's entry has only revealed to Adi that there is a different way of being in a relationship than just feeling beholden to someone in guilt😆.....otherwise Malini had abused her power to the max in convincing Adi that this is all there is to life and relationships. All she's done now is escalate that abuse of her power to scapegoat Imlie and feel entitled towards demeaning her.

And then yes, as you said....Imlie has never abused the power she's been given...even now when Adi is openly giving her rights on him, rights on his life, she is refusing to wield that power out of regard for someone else. That is the difference.

I can't with the Dementor Didi Stan's defense of Malini😆. They do not want to understand the story at all but just want to portray Dementor Didi as a bechari victim who is lashing out at Imlie due to dhoka that she has received from Adi-Imlie. For this they even ignore that Adi had actually revealed the truth to her before marriage but she couldn't handle it😆.

Also if anyone points out Dementor Didi's faults concisely & with examples, they go back to their usual fallback of Adi-Malini were in a 7 year relationship & in love & he married her out of his own will. His marriage to Imlie is forced, illegal & hence not valid.

The use of the 7 years ka relationship excuse is the most useless one as people do evolve over time & grow out of relationships. People do get separated after being married for decades & having children as well. So it is not something strange that Adi-Malini marriage fails even after dating eachother for 7 years. There is a world of difference between dating for years & actually living together as a husband & wife because in dating phase both the partners put their best show but after marriage you actually get to know a person after living with them 24*7. So yes, marriages do break after long dating phase as well.

But you know most of the times this is also the excuse that Dementor Didi herself uses to justify her unreasonable demands. That I have invested 7 years in the relationship & made adjustments for him, which he himself never asked for, so he should now treat me like a queen. So much entitlement over him & his achievements as well. Makes me remember the epi when Adi had won the journalism award & how his achievement became her achievement without any emotional or actual support from her towards his job.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Well said, Seera ji....especially the bits in bold👍🏼.

I do think though that you might be slightly off about the money dynamics in the AC-DC marriage😆....DC is not the one that brought money into it, AC did.....he was the poorer one of the two and gained traction for his career after marrying her.....she rubbed it in his face in some scene too that her father's money helped launch Dev ka painting career. So that's another layer of toxicity between them since she uses that sense of entitlement that her own money is what made Dev so he has no right to dispute anything she says.

But yes, she absolutely hates PD with a passion and Imlie is a proxy target for her since her being from PD triggers AC ki saari insecurities and paranoia.

Yes, the sum of it all is that power in general does corrupt people but the few who are able to wield it responsibly show their strength of character....Imlie is one of those rare few😊.

I know AC did give support to DC. If i am not wrong he was still struggling even after malini was born. He gained money n fame only after his own PD trip. He did his most noted work only after that and gained fame n money. So yeah i do understand she being his support system as far as finances are concerned. But her current power status is not cos of her dad but DCs achievement. The amount of hate she has for DC doesnt justify she sticking around with him unless you just want the privileges coming from the marriage.

What is absolutely mind boggling is the ability to push someone else's achievements under the rug.. be it DC or Imlie. Kudka kuch bhi nahi.. lekin dusra ki achievements mitti barabar...

Didi feels entitled just caz she is born in a rich family and that is hardly an excuse she has no basis to feel so superior to anybody caz kia kya hai to feel like she owns everybody and she is their maalik and they are below her. All the excuses of adi imlie ka sach or whatever to give her that is such Nonsense caz forget that she treats his family the same way too are they also snatching him or something.. she has abused her power even then by making their life hell and taking advantage of their love and respect for her. What had they exactly done to be treated that way by her...this is the woman who doesn't like adi even talking to his siblings or his mom for 2 secs if he is having a normal conversation with them too if it doesn't involve her. She always has to adao her taang and turn that baat or topic towards herself.. that kind of abuser of power she is. So yes it is not new .. she has this mindset that duniya main sirf yehi hai .. and I just fail to understand ke yeh aata kahan se hai.. even being born rich doesn't give you the entitlement like she feels. She legit wants everyone as her pets on leash and that really takes away any grim chances of empathisizing or feeling anything for her on basic human level too caz how do you feel anything for such a brat. Where there is no other quality than this sense of am above you.. no you cannot blame anyone else for this she is herself responsible for this .. yeah others may have taught her or given her that feel as being the only child but it was upon her to let it go so much into her head..nobody went into her head to fill it with such nonsense.🤷‍♀️

About imlie well she keeps proving how class khareedi nahi ja sakti it not something that comes with your social status or bank balance it is in built.. and when she says or does things like these one can see why she is the lead why she is the hero of this this story..

Which is why the college kids realized their mistake and apologized. They may have been scared about the professor’s presence too but Imlie won them over mostly.

Malini used the love of two families to almost leave them responsible for her decision to end her life; one more so than the other and especially two people. I personally feel nothing can ever trump that line she crossed, that abuse of power, but that has now been pushed under the rug by everyone.

Originally posted by: MuteButton

Which is why the college kids realized their mistake and apologized. They may have been scared about the professor’s presence too but Imlie won them over mostly.

Malini used the love of two families to almost leave them responsible for her decision to end her life; one more so than the other and especially two people. I personally feel nothing can ever trump that line she crossed, that abuse of power, but that has now been pushed under the rug by everyone.

Exactly and abusing that for such a pathetic reason to get one up.. like Not even for a good reason.. power can be abused for Wellbeing of something too it is not always abused to destroy.. atleast kisi ek pehlu main kisi ka toh faayda ho but no his woman just knows how.to.destruct how to.emtouonally torture the mankind around her . I mean iss suicide kaand main iska khud ka hardly faayda tha toh begin with but still she went with it to.torture to badla lena to leave the ones who care with a life long of guilt .. it wasn't even something done in impulse that gives the ones left behind some peace of some sort that ok one weak moment nah nah nah nada not in her case she well thought of all of it with even the script and dialogue writing with such well placed guilt inducing last dialogeus to all. They weren't coming in the flow when you are trying to hide something bad nah nah her intent was exactly to.leave those people with those words so they die 10000 deaths everyday.. if that isn't abuse I do what is...if that isn't toxic and just pure EVILNESS of the worst kind idk what is

I am just amazed how can one think that whatever imlie did to the kids is pure wrong?!!!
so being nice and considering about others future is wrong now? or it is just because imlie did so it must be wrong?!

first time it was pure ragging yes, and I think they already get punish for.

but the rose thing it was a brank that imlie didn't understand and go with flow with it, is that correct to do? to use somebody ignorance for entertainment? to put others in embarrassment situation? no it is not!

this kind of pranks, when I was teenager at high school, we just use to do with our own friends for fun!, it is silly and immature too! but we were teens back then we are not suppose to act mature every second of our teens, and the kids are living their teens! and we never ever give names to teachers and supervisors we would take it in our head anytime but will not drag other to it! and that exactly what the kids and imlie did! it is a start of a friendship (I hope)

so pure soul imlie instead of putting a statement for RAGGING she chooses not to ruin 4 kids students future for silly prank the may didn't think of it is consequences and starting a FRINDSHIP with them!

so she basically chose LOVE over HATE!

and that always WIN!

Originally posted by: _Seera_

I know AC did give support to DC. If i am not wrong he was still struggling even after malini was born. He gained money n fame only after his own PD trip. He did his most noted work only after that and gained fame n money. So yeah i do understand she being his support system as far as finances are concerned. But her current power status is not cos of her dad but DCs achievement. The amount of hate she has for DC doesnt justify she sticking around with him unless you just want the privileges coming from the marriage.

What is absolutely mind boggling is the ability to push someone else's achievements under the rug.. be it DC or Imlie. Kudka kuch bhi nahi.. lekin dusra ki achievements mitti barabar...

Ah ok, I get what you mean now. I guess it isn't clear how much of their finances are still controlled by AC even if Dev has become independently wealthy on the basis of his painting career.

But I do agree that she does seem to be sticking it out in this toxic marriage to a large extent cuz of the status and image of being a wealthy socialite married to a "famous painter".....it's an ego boost to her to run him down in private while publicly enjoying the privileges the marriage affords her.

And so true about the "talent" both maa-beti have in trying to sweep someone else's achievements under the rug chaahe khud se dhele ka kuch kiya ho.....Malini does it in the garb of bechaargi ki "haaye meri kismat, jo maine chaha mujhe nahin mila, kisi aur ko bina maange kyun mil gaya'....essentially ensuring that the person who achieves something is just not able to savor it in a positive light and is burdened by her bakwaas self-pity talks. While AC doesn't do these gol mol things but feels entitled to directly physically, verbally and mentally abuse someone. Ab psycho na bolein toh aur kya bolein in dono ko phir. The ugly faces of power.