NAINA- Why we feel disconnected To Her?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Before reading let me clarify that this will be a bit long post and it's not a bashing post so if you have something meaningful to say then only comment otherwise please stay away.

This post is mainly for those who think Naina gets bash unnecessarily And they don't mind to bash Sameer even the counter argument is very correct proving Sameer's stance.

So this post is mainly to prove that why there is disconnect with Naina when we love her equally as Sameer?

And this post also for those who thinks there is too much negativity on this forum. This is mainly based on past tracks not current track.


P.S. No unnecessary bashing of a character or personal remarks on any member.

Please don't bring Sweater topic as well as Sunaina issue to justify your argument. If you have something new to comment then only you can argue because TBH I am really fed up by this two issues which mainly result in fight among the members and personal remarks.

Healthy criticism is most welcome.


Naina - why disconnect to her?

Naina may be a plain simple looking girl but her qualities make her stand out in the crowd.

She believes in truth stands by it and never supports wrongdoing that is the reason she was so popular in School among teachers but her classmates used to hate her because of her they always got punished.

Then came Sameer in their school and she fell in love with him at first sight but for him she didn't even existed.

He was also a popular kid because of his Salman Khan looks and girls used to wait for him in corridor to catch his one glimpse including Topper and Head Monitor Naina.

Then came the life changing HeadBoy competition which changed so many things in Sameer and Naina's life not just them but people close to them.

Be it Sameer's Mom or Naina's brother Arjun and Father Rakesh.

Arjun who was so bright student just like his sister Naina who felt threatened by a new student like Sameer and there was a added pressure on him by his father to be successful all the time and make him proud.

Same goes for Sameer's Mom because of her Sameer felt the need to be HeadBoy and to prove it to her yes he can be like his step brother.

This competition lead to paper stealing by Arjun and Sameer got accused because Naina found her fathers keys with him so she assumed that he is the only one who stole those papers. He tried to tell her that It wasn't him but she didn't give him chance but later on she got to know that it's her brother who stole those papers and she did felt bad for Sameer. That time also she didn't do anything to clear his name just told him that I believe you that you didn't steal those papers.

She chose her Family over Truth and Justice. She is the same girl who always told truth and she did got him punished on first day of his school because of his fight with those senior boys. (See she always used to stand by truth.)

Sameer, his Nanu was insulted in school his Mom broke all her ties with him so he was Furious at Naina so he made bet with Senior boys that he will make her say I Love You and insult her and her father for questioning his Upbringing.

He tried everything to woo her and in that process he got to know Real Naina who is in fact a very good girl, a good friend and a very kind person who helps people when they are in need. She took Nanu to hospital leaving her competition and because of it she got punished.

This Bet resulted in Naina's Heartbreak and realisation of Sameer that he is indeed in love with Naina.

Then his redemption started. He tried everything for her forgiveness and to take away the pain which was given by him. She saw his genuine efforts and the things he did for her family mainly Anand Bela and Arjun so she forgave him by accepting his love. Again her family mattered to her most and that became the reason for his forgiveness.

Then they got separated because of Nanu's demise,he went to Delhi with his mom.

But they were still connected to each other and Naina did provide him that comfort and solace through phone calls and letters. She even send his best friends to him when he was in bad company and in a way showed him light.

She was his guiding light just like Nanu and Munna.

The dreaded Manhoos track. He believed his Dadi's words that whom ever he loves they don't survive for long and he was scared to loose Naina. We all know he was just being stupid to believe her but if you see his POV it's not wrong. It's not like that he was scared that people go away from him because he was used to it but here was a mortal danger and he didn't want to take risk about Naina.

If you see I think he never saw his Dad because no reference of that and then since childhood he is all alone spending time in hostels and very small time with his Nanu. Then he came to Ahmedabad to his Nanu,spend some time with him he got all love and friends like Mundit but again his Nanu got snatched away from him. So in a way he did believe Dadi's words that he is cursed that when he gets too close to people they die that's the reason he stayed away from his Mom also because she was sick and he did same with Naina.

It was Naina who made him believe in their love. She is the one who told him that when there is love then there is no space for fear. Love gives you strength to fight the world.

She is the one who claimed that she loves him more than the world and her world is definitely her family mainly Anand.

See she only said those things to Sameer and he did let go of his fears and Dadi's words.

Here it was not just fear of Naina going away from him but it was a fear of mortal danger.

He chose her over his past experience as well as his fears.

Then came the most dreaded break up track. Naina saw her father trying to hang himself just by thinking about Arjun and Shefali. For him not his son's happiness but his false pride mattered the most. She was traumatised by seeing that and she had a dream about Anand doing same because he got to know about her and Sameer.

She already saw that her brother was a coward who didn't stand by Shefali and she had to leave the city for the humiliation she faced.

Before going Shefali advices her that she shouldn't continue her relationship if she like her brother. Naina believed her words and broke up with Sameer because she thought that she will not be able to stand for their love. In fact she did the same kind of mistake which Sameer did by believing Dadi's words and here she believed Shefali's word.

Just like Naina Sameer also tried hard to make her understand that they can fight this together and she is not at all alone he will always stand by her but still she gave in for her fears. She thought that she is saving Sameer from future pain but she failed to see his present pain which he was going through.

She was indebted to Anand for her upbringing and love she got from him so she chose him over Sameer. She could've told Anand about them who trusted her more than his own daughters and loved her the most but no she decided to break up.

Then came Sharad's alliance for Naina and she bowed down in front of Elders of family not just her but Anand also.

Same Anand who was her idol and who used to guide her at every situation but he also failed to support her in front of elders and as such he is not a biological father of Naina and Rakesh has all the rights to take any decision for her.

Here we all sympathise with Naina for the pain she was going through though she was wrong in breaking up with Sameer but still we felt her pain like we did for Sameer. We felt bad for both of them.

Now if you see Sameer was all set to go to Pune and she was all set to marry Sharad.

So many have this question why we sided with Sameer and not Naina?

See answer is very simple she failed to acknowledge his pain and most importantly she never showed any regret for breaking up with him.

She is the same girl who once claimed that she can feel Sameer's pain and it increases when it comes to her but sadly we never saw that during break up track.

If Sharad would've been good guy she would've definitely married him and then what about Sameer?

He was all set to leave everything behind for her but no acknowledgement on her part.

Sameer got to know about her alliance and he was angry so he proposed Sunaina I know it was a stupid move but still it was his anger towards Naina.

I know some bring this Sunaina issue to defend Naina but they failed to see that

Samaina broke up officially and honestly it was one sided decision of Naina Sameer had no say in it but still people find faults only in him and not Naina. Why is like that? She can marry but he can't have partner? They would've preferred if he would've gone to Pune leaving his family and most importantly his responsibility as Nanu's heir.

They can see Sunaina troubling Naina but they failed to see Sameer's pain because of it.

For this mistake he apologised to Sunaina for breaking her heart and to Naina for bringing Sunaina in between them because of his anger towards her.

Anand got to know about letters of Sameer to Naina and he got doubts about them and it got confirmed when Sameer hit Sharad and the conversation of Preena.

He supported them and you can see how glad Sameer was to get Anand's approval but he held himself back because of Promise he made to Munna his family after Nanu.

He told Naina that they can't be together because of it and you can see that anger and jealousy in Naina for Munna and she blamed Munna for Sameer's rejection despite Anand's approval.

She indeed emotionally blackmailed Munna and proved herself that she is Rakesh's daughter. When you want your work to be done go for emotional blackmail so others has to bowed down in front of you. She could've tried something else to pursuade Munna and give him that assurance that she will never leave Sameer again but no she resorted to this cheap jumping drama just like her father who tried to hang himself and because of it Arjun didn't stand by Shefali.

She was also going to give Munna same trauma like she went through because of her father.

Munna's worry was genuine what if Anand backs out from his consent ?and trust me this question still haunts us.

Will Naina stand by her word? Will she go against Anand for Sameer if he takes his consent back?then what?

She already made it clear to Sameer and to Vishakha also when she came to meet her that for her Anand's approval matters most not others. Like Munna Vishakha's worry was also genuine what if Naina leaves Sameer again for her family then what?

TBH can't see Sameer broken or devastated again.

See Vishakha rejected Naina for Sameer but still he chose her over his Mom.

He stood by his words and promises he made to Naina.

Sadly to say Naina failed to fulfill her promises big time.

I know when you are in love there is no space for ego or misunderstandings but some acknowledgment of pain given by you does helps in any relationship.

Sadly we didn't see that acknowledgment from Naina towards Sameer and on top of that she belittled his pain in front of her by saying that she did all this because of her family but for her his excuses were useless she was angry on him for bringing Sunaina in between them.

This was breaking point of that connect with Naina we have as a viewer because she failed to see his pain,his anger and his hurt in front of her pain.

Naina the same girl who loved Sameer when she knew nothing about him and made us fall in love with their innocent love. She is the one who claimed to love him more than the world and promised to never leave his side but she did. She left him for her family.

It's like she showed him the stars and next moment push him down in the valley of sorrow to deal on his own.

Sameer for him Naina didn't even exist but was forced to woo her because of the bet.

He tried and got to know the real Naina and love he has for her and then there was no looking back for him. His life started and ends on Naina. He can do anything for her happiness. He did proved it by accepting her friendship when she was going to marry Sharad and apologising to Sunaina for taking Naina's anger on her.

Just to save her reputation he didn't tell anything to Naina's MIL and he did saved her from Sharad.

If you see from the beginning it was Naina who made us fall in love with their love. My favourite is Sameer but I really admire Naina who used to stand by truth ,the small small things she used to do for Sameer to make him feel special and the way she used to care for him and that he matters to her most but now that Naina is missing.

I know they are growing up and they are in their adulthood but you can't change a core character of a person. People do change but trait is the one thing you can't change.

Compassion is one of Naina's trait that we love most about her but sadly it's missing in case of Sameer but you can see that for Swati,Sunaina and Kartik.

This not a bashing post but I just want to let others know that we don't have anything against Naina but sometimes her behaviour changes according to situations as well as people involved in it.

She have different set of rules for everyone and she proved it in case of Arjun,Swati,Sunaina , Kartik and Sameer. Till now only Sameer got punished for the crime he didn't even commit Arjun did but no punishment for him. She forgave Swati,Sunaina and got Kartik suspended for a week that's all.

That's what I wanted to say about Naina and trust me I do admire Naina.

Those who thinks some people spread negativity on this forum so let me clear this as long as I know this is a public platform where people can say what they want to say.

We don't make any personal remarks on anyone but we have a right to comment about a character if that character is wrong.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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i have just one word to say
sheer brilliance 👏

you have summed up everything perfectly... believe me each word each sentence was bang on...

ever since break up track naina's growth graph is only deteriorating...its going downwards whereas sameer's graph is constantly moving upward... hence the disconnect is very much visible now a days...


pain connected samaina... they both had incomplete family... the emotional aspect of theirs was only within them... it came out only when these two came together... that connect is replaced and hence everything is messed up
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Posted: 6 years ago
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You have put everything down so to the point dear...honestly brilliant post 👏
Since the break up I just can't connect with Naina. .. With time it's just getting worse.
I've just given up and stopped watching for the past 2 weeks.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Nice post.
The only thing is that i won't Want to compare Sameer and Naina. They are different people and have different personalities. If S does something for N, she does not need to return the favor.

I could connect and relate with Naina till breakup but yes the patch up and suicide drama was a complete let down.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Nice post Trupti.
You mentioned everything nothing left to comment.
This disconnect started during breakup track, she is a practical person now jo dimaag se sochti hai while Sameer is becoming an emotional fool. 🤔
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Posted: 6 years ago
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few days back i have made post on similar lines:
https://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5024450

Samaina and Gang

As A loyal and regular viewer of the show there are so many things going on in my mind rn.

YUDKBH is the show which I need to preserve in my heart for forever. For its story line and characters.

This is probably the first show where we do not have any negative characters. They are either grey or turned positive.

We have seen love, family, friendship and every aspect of life of samaina and gang.

But after school track ended and college track started I can feel many things are missing and incomplete. Many open tracks and abruptly ended without proper ending and storytelling.

I want to start from the college beginning track coz I feel School track was best and perfect.

1. Samaina: They have started college track from manhoos track. We have seen so much efforts from naina's side to get Sameer back on track. Both had suffered so much during delhi track and letter was the only one thing for their survival.

Once Sameer came out of the manhoos thing we expected them to sit and pour their heart out to each other. Conversation is Samaina USP from beginning. Be it in school or in mt.abu, their always used to talk and feel each other pain. Sameer faced lot in delhi that naina needed to know and vice versa. But rather than that we got ghanta-ghanti reunion. After that they never spoke about delhi and what made Sameer to think that he is manhoos.

Then come Pooja-bittu track which again ended abruptly. I feel they changed that track due to Somy and Hema issue. But I could be satisfied if they can give a proper ending to that track. They showed Pooja asking apology from bittu and what about bittu. Didn't she also need to apologise to Pooja. They could have showed Agarwal and Maheshwari family sit together and talk and sorting the issue with God bharai for both Pooja and Bittu at same time. What makes me so surprised that Pooja didi delivered a baby and no talks on that. Till Date chachaji is not aware of this incident.

Then come much hyped Waxing and periods track. They took out such an important and serious issue and closed it on funny note. What was that track about I still doesn't understand? VO Said bahot salo bad Sameer ko ye baat pata chali and we had good laugh. Again I feel it was to cover up for Randeep movie shooting and leaves.

Then Come the Judai track which I feel was important for growth in Samaina's growth.

What I feel wrong was Naina's one sided decision. Never she thought of Sameer's situation.

Then she agreed for marriage with Sharad for family pressure. Now my question is: Will Naina would get married with Sharad if he was a very good guy. Ans is Yes she could have because family is important and she can't go against her family. Then what about Sameer. Going in Ashram in Pune. Sharad was bad guy and that was the reason of marriage alliance broke.

She broke up with Sameer for family without giving him any chance to speak but after same Sameer saved her from her would be Mother in Law in college she was impressed and asked for friendship. What if he could not have helped her and saved her. He had all rights to do that after being thrown out like a garbage from naina's life.

After Chachaji approval and judai ended samaina is behaving like nothing happened. Naina did not once talk about Sameer going baba mode and Sameer did not ask her what made her say yes to marriage proposal. All they showed is Gang making fun of his baba mode and naina being so casually asking him that he actually wanted to go in ashram. Like seriously naina. After coming in saree, putting mehendi for some other guy name you are still expecting Sameer to behave normally.

During all this another girl suffered and insulted in Sunaina. I agree that she became MRs Fresher by cheating but still Sameer had no right to play with any other girl's life like this. He was wrong. Then once he realised he said sorry to her. EVERYTHING CAN'T BE SORTED WITH SORRY MR. SAMEER MAHESHWARI. Sharad misbehaved with naina and you beat him really hard. What about you. Did not you and sharad is same when it comes to sunaina. I think CVS failed here. they portray Sameer's character in very bad way during sunaina track. She is also a girl and she is insulted from Sameer and gang. I don't think she is doing anything wrong standing in election and giving tough time to samaina and gang.

The most ridiculous thought came when naina tried to jump from the terrace.
Again question arise naina did that to prove she can do anything for Sameer to munna. But don't u think it was the most ridiculous step to prove your point. If she can do anything for Sameer then why you said yes to marriage under family pressure. You are ready to risk your life for Sameer after chachaji approval. What about before that. Suddenly she realised she loves Sameer a lot and can give up her life as well. Tell me who will not agree if you are trying to jump from terrace. Like that munna too agreed. Instead of Naina saying sorry it was munna who was begging and saying sorry to naina. Dialogues they gave during naina-munna confrontation scene was so badly written and out of the place. Like munna is jealous of Sameer giving more importance to her. Seriously. A girl who see the struggle of mundit in bet track, naina manao track, Pooja shadi track, judai track, manhoos track is saying these lines. How can she forget because of them Sameer and naina are SAMAINA.

After creating so much scene they again become normal and all lovey dovey without any proper conversation and confrontation.

Then come this Swati track. I don't think Swati is wrong at any point. Naina was not in mood to stand in election so she asked Swati to stand forcefully giving her speech, then all of a sudden gang wanted naina to stand in election instead of swati. Ok fine I agreed naina might be a better option but then you could have once asked Swati whether she wanted to back off or still wanted to stand. Rather than taking her opinion they gave naina's name. As if it was not done they chose to humiliate and insulted swati in front of JBR As well.

Swati still understood naina and tried to talk with her and called her. But naina being so lost in her world with Sameer did not even bother to ask if it was important and if not we can speak in college. Rather than that she forcefully cut her call. Then again in college she did not remember that her best friend wanted to talk something important and again got busy promoting her.

One thing which hurt me badly naina not uttering a word when munna and Sameer are talking such insulting line for the best friend. Being a girl herself will she ever tolerate other girl facing such insult that too your best friend of more than 10 years and from your boyfriend and his friends.

I will not completely blame swati if she joins hands with Sunaina and gang because whatever Kartik and sunaina said was 100% right. If gang would have supported swati in the same way they are supporting naina she too could have win. Whole gang was suddenly woken up from sleep once naina become a candidate. Like swati's nomination was just for sake of standing. On top of that the way they showed naina taking out swati's poster like its doesn't existed added more fuel. Doesn't she remembered seeing swati's poster that she wanted to talk to her. Swati was with naina for entire day for making banners still she forgot about that and lost in her own world. Upar se VO Saying why cant swati spoke to her. Girl, your best friend tired her best but it was you who was not interested. Sorry, but Naina was came accorss selfish girl in all this.

On one sided Naina is being treated like a queen from Sameer, Swati is treated like a trash from her own Bf Munna. That makes her remembered her love for Sameer which was dead all these days. She always proved herself when it comes to friendship. So it was natural that chose to team up with Sunaina coz naina could not understand her feelings.

One thing swati did wrong was sharing their secrets with Sunaina but at this stage she thinks she has no one by her side and getting ignored. Sunaina (tho for her benefits) is giving her all the comfort and confidance she is need at this point of time. Its human nature that during such situation we always chose the worst solution.

Munna: He need to understand its just not the friendship which matters Love also matters. You cant speak to your won GF like this and on other hand you talk very nicely with naina and preeti. If u cant handle two relations at a time then better end one. And end that relation which you feel is less important. And In munna's case his relation with Swati is less important than his relation with Sameer. You scored 100% in Frnship but score 0 in Relatipnship.

2. Gang: After speaking a lot for Samaina I want to talk about Gang. Its high time that CVS will show gang is getting serious about their future and start talking about their career plans. Going by current situation they all are leading no where.

Mundit: They are just Sameer's best friends. But they has their own life as well. I don't want them to be just only Sameer's BFF. What about their future and career.

Swati will always remain Naina ki BF and Preeti will always remain Naina ki hanuman.

Sameer will Nain ka BF.

What about future.

Its time to show Sameer getting involved in Business and gang thinking about their careers.

Sameer being a rich guy will always have an option open to join his family business and we all know naina is writer.

Agar aisa ho chalta raha to mundit sirf Sameer ke chamche bane rahenge and Swati and Preeti naina ki BF and Sister.

Sorry for that rant but I really wanted to speak on all these aspect.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Great post, Trupti! You have written it so well, indeed this is the reason why I can't connect to present Naina anymore, the failure of acknowledging your partner's pain.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Hi Trupti,
Good post and points all valid. you and veebha has mentioned all my thoughts hence nothin more to write,

in short tin area future we will not get Naina support sameer or helping him or sy motivating him , as they have shown sameer motivating Naina. Its as usual Indian television Female lead ki Jai .what they say and do is correct.

Sameer will always be the support system and an trash bin for naina so that she can just pick him , and throw him and humiliate him when he wants and when he points the issues to her she will scream at him and keep him mouth shut.

PS: i am not a naina nor sameer hater . i love both of them equally its just that Naina's character at times is shown something different .
the issue here is of the Cvs not giving a proper closure to any track

During the school track:
a)Arjun and paper stealing track.
b)Sammer winning the cricket track for Arjun and not even a thank u from SS or Arjun
c)Sameer saved Pooja when she went alone for a movie with varun . and sameer got beatings and the 5lac rupees.
d) Shaadi track at the end ended abruptly, they
e) Phulla but leaving to bombay suddenly

Coming to college track :
everything mess
1. Manhoos track
2. Baba mode / break up track
3. Election track

nothing proper .
the cvs does brings up the track well but then at the end just messes it up without proper closure.

Will always remain salty with the paper track

Sameers poems are missing, what about naina writing stories, wasn't it initially told that Niana topped only till 10th , yesterday episode says she is a topper n college too. what should we believe.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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adding to improper closure for the track
- SS catching sameer in Naina's room and no punishment for him
- Nani's saree

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I think there have too many contradictory behavior of Naina shown by CVs off late
Edited by priya_nka_yudkb - 6 years ago

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