KJO's obsession with Kajol Totally OVER? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Resident_Evil

I disagree. Dharma has surpassed YRF by miles now. Not only is Karan visible in the media, he has created a brand for himself and his production house. The way he has singlehandedly taken his father's company to heights is commendable. 

YRF on the other hand are only floating with the once in a blue moon Aamir/Salman movies. IMO Befikre has damaged Aditya Chopra's brand badly. And supposedly he is making a historic movie as his next too. Dharma's upcoming movies include Simmba, Kesri, Kalank, Bharmastra, Student of the Year etc while YRFs has nothing lined up after Sui Dhaga and Thugs of Hindostan. 

Originally posted by: gilmores

Being in the media isn't that important when your work speaks for you. KJo is flamboyant and likes to be in the news 24/7. Aditya Chopra relishes his privacy so YRF functions the same way. Their bigger films are much bigger than Dharma films both in scale and box office. Their small ones may be disasters and their big ones keep them running as a PH but they're typically the biggest that come around. Ultimately they do everything themselves from producing to distributing. They don't co-produce or partner with other PH's (at least yet) so they have the resources and capabilities that Dharma doesn't yet. I'm not saying KJo hasn't done a great job with Dharma -- he most definitely has, but I would still put YRF as a PH that has an edge and more respect. 

Hmm, I don't think much of Aditya Chopra as a director, I think he's limited and just a one hit wonder but I doubt one Befikre is enough to ruin his legacy (not that the flop didn't affect him). For that matter even KJO has disappointments in KANK, SOTY & ADHM. People simply move on when the next one is announced. 

I'm sure YRF has a lineup that they simply haven't announced yet. They typically don't make film announcements 2 years in advance so I'm sure their films are under development. They only have that Arjun-Pari, HR-Tiger & Shamshera announced and they're definitely not only doing 3 films for the next 1-2 years.   Movies like Sui Dhaaga were announced out of nowhere and no one even knew they were in the works so don't be surprised if something comes up. They've had rumors about Ranveer, Deepika, Akki for a while. Anyways YRF at one point was doing as many films as Dharma and they cut back to revaluate. 

Originally posted by: gilmores

Yes, I think within the industry Aditya Chopra & YRF have a lot more respect than KJo and Dharma. YRF is older and has had it's reputation much longer. Dharma may be "more successful" at the moment, but YRF's name is overall bigger. They're...exclusive. Doing a YRF film, a big one, is still considered a sign of having made it in BW. Somehow their films still have this perception of having worked for it and earned it unlike Dharma films, which because of the nepotism debate perhaps, simply don't. It seems more like candy given out. YRF has a lot of other problems in the sense that they haven't kept up with the times, but they've maintained this exclusivity. ...and they make so much money off of their studios that the films don't matter as much. Their small films have bombed badly, but that also has to do with the fact they really suck at promoting. 

I wouldn't say YRF proteges are doing badly per se -- yes perhaps in comparison to Dharma proteges. Are Ranveer and Anushka really doing that badly? Arjun has some 5 movies coming up and yes he may not be as famous as Ranbir/Varun, but he's fine where he is as a middle rung star. He's certainly better off than Sid. It's only their actresses like Parineeti and Vaani that are struggling and even someone like Parineeti managing to get films outside of YRF and without Aditya's recommendation despite a 2-3 year hiatus is saying something. 

Originally posted by: minu_8

I am one of those who felt in recent years gradually dharma overtook yrf... why do u think that is not so?

Which are the yrf big films in recent years? Dhoom series and sultan right? Any movies I am missing? 

Aren't dharma movies not only more consistent at BO but also somewhat better in quality?

Their in house directors I feel ayan and shakun are any day better than yrf directors.. 

And when it comes to Karen vs adi as directors..  even though I don't enjoy karan's movies and after some time can't rewatch them at all.. I still feel he is better than adi

Originally posted by: rogerrocks

YRF has Shimit Amin who is greater than Ayaan and Shakun combined. And there is Dibakar too. Difference is KJo saw their potential and gave them opportunities even though their initial films weren't hits while YRF is sleeping on Shimit after Rocket Singh flopped (which is easily one of their best films in recent times).  Yet YRF somehow gives opportunities to mediocre directors like Karan Malhotra and Victor 😆 This is exactly why Adi sucks as a mentor 😆

Originally posted by: minu_8

I forgot about shimit for obvious reasons.. I wouldn't say he is more talented that 2 very talented writer/directors combined but yes he is terrific..  but what on earth is he doing? His last film was 10 years ago.. he is not even qualified to be called yrf director anymore.. there are talentless actors like shraddha who quit yrf bcos they were not giving her quality work.. and what is stopping shimit?

Karen is a better mentor.. it's his image and alia which is perhaps responsible for lack of respect for dharma if at all.. otherwise to all his actor/directors he is a better mentor.. I see yrf being appreciated for launching actors and leaving them to their own devices. Which would have been great if they were not contract bound.. but if they r bound to do 3 films with yrf then it's their responsibility to do justice to those talents..  Which they have failed to do.. shimit is still waiting for his3rd movie ..