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Posted: 7 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Mascarpone


Didnt blame Kat at all. Thats why I said what all they must have endured. Might be the same couple. Read a news article 3-4 yrs back , maybe it was about them leaving but they were brought up in it.

Katrina's sister's husband, his siblings, and his former partner were confirmed members. In interviews he and his siblings have detailed their experiences which sound abusive but not sexual (the cult tries to break family bonds so children are separated from parents and each other, move frequently, have behavior / freedom tightly controlled, have limited education, and expected to work long hours. The child sexual abuse was supposed to have ended in the mid 80's, though allegations persisted it was officially punished with excommunication). I've never read anything in which Christine Spencer has confirmed she grew up in the cult though she may indeed have. I didn't mean to imply you were blaming Katrina - my post was poorly worded. I just wanted to point out that, as far as I'm aware, it is questionable and not fact that Katrina grew up in the cult and that there is sexual abuse in her or her family's history until/unless she or her family chooses to address it. It's very private and though you aren't judgmental about it, lots and lots of people are.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: _Arunima_

Vinod Khanna was part of it.









During the prime of his life, peak of his career he went to Rajneeshpuram leaving everything behind for 5 years 😕


Vinod Khanna: The Actor Who Became a Monk and Sold His Mercedes

Bhawana SomaayaUpdated: 11.12.17
A photograph of Vinod Khanna with his sons Rahul and Akshaye. (Photo Courtesy: Twitter/Altered by The Quint)

Legend has it that when Sunil Dutt saw Vinod Khanna for the first time, he was fascinated with the young man because he was from Peshawar (present day-Pakistan). Dutt decided to launch Khanna and his younger brother Som Dutt in his home production Man ka Meet (1968).

Initially, Vinod Khanna was just a good looking villain. But his solid screen presence ensured that irrespective of whether his role was positive or negative, he was noticed in all his films be it Purab Aur Paschim with Manoj Kumar or Aan Milo Sajna and Saccha Jootha with Rajesh Khanna (1970).

A rare photograph of a young Vinod Khanna. (Photo Courtesy: Twitter)

The year 1971 proved to be a turning point in Khanna's career with three films presenting him in three very different avatars. Sunil Dutt's Reshma Aur Shera,which also launched Amitabh Bachchan, Gulzar's Mere Apne, that defined him as an actor and Raj Khosla's dacoit drama Mera Gaon Mera Desh, where he shared screen space with Sunil Dutt and Dharmendra.

On the personal front, Vinod Khanna married his childhood sweetheart Geetanjali. The two went on to have two sons, Akshaye and Rahul Khanna.

Rahul Khanna with dad Vinod. (Photo Courtesy: Twitter)

The 70s was a decade of multi-starrer films and Vinod Khanna was a prominent player, pairing up with Amitabh Bachchan and other actors. He worked with Randhir Kapoor in Haath Ki Safai and Amitabh Bachchan in Khoon Pasina,Parvarish and Amar Akbar Anthony.

When I met Vinod Khanna for the first time in 1978, he was already into Osho Rajneesh. He wore an orange kaftan and a beaded mala to shootings. He walked around the studio and his set with an orange cloth bag strapped around his shoulder. He would delay getting into his costume till the shot was ready.

During this phase, I interviewed him a number of times. No matter what question you asked him, he had a knack of relating the answer to Rajneesh's philosophy.

Vinod Khanna in orange and and the beaded necklace.

When in Mumbai (then Bombay), he shot from Monday to Friday. After pack-up, he drove to Pune (then Poona) to spend the weekend with Rajneesh. Producers were concerned about his obsession with Rajneesh but Vinod Khanna was blissfully indifferent to his surroundings.

As months went by, his disinterest in work became more apparent. And then, the inevitable happened. There was some problem at Rajneesh's Poona resort, because of which Osho shifted overnight to Oregon and wanted his favourite disciple Vinod Khanna to follow him.
Osho Rajneesh with Vinod Khanna. (Photo Courtesy: Twitter)

This was in 1980, a time when Vinod Khanna was the darling of the nation, the action hero of The Burning Train and the heartbreaker of the very popular Qurbani. Would Vinod Khanna stake his career for his guru?

When the news first reached our ears, nobody took it seriously and was dismissed as a crazy rumour. But slowly, as days went by, directors confided that Khanna had stalled all his new projects indefinitely. Producers confirmed that Vinod Khanna was returning signing amounts. This was serious.
Vinod Khanna left Bollywood for Osho's ashram at the peak of his career.

His co-stars were alarmed and his distributors were angry. The media wanted to know what was going on. So finally, on the advice of his manager (then secretary), Vinod Khanna called a press conference. The venue was the newly launched Centaur (today Tulip Star) Hotel. His first wife Geetanjali and their sons were a part of the conference.

In those days, press conferences were not as common as they are today. Everyone was surprised at how composed Vinod Khanna was. He did not make any elaborate speeches. He said he had made up his mind to quit films and shift base and that he wanted to follow his heart. His wife Geetanjali seated beside him was supportive of his decision.

In the following weeks, Vinod Khanna left for Oregon. If the stories are to be believed, he transformed into an able gardener at the Rajneeshpuram ashram. Every morning, he woke up and watered the plants and sang to the flowers. During his years away, Vinod Khanna hardly visited India. The media lost touch with him until news of his divorce in 1985.

After his long exile, Vinod Khanna was first spotted on a popular magazine cover with a white beard. It was a signal to the film industry that the prodigal son had returned and producers clamoured to queue outside his home.

His first release post his spiritual break was the Mukul Anand-directed Insaaf,starring Dimple Kapadia, followed by Feroze Khan's Dayavan. The attractive actor was among the first crop of actors to endorse a brand (Cinthol).

Yash Chopra signed him for Chandni, while Mahesh Bhatt roped him in for Jurm.

The 90s saw him experience a professional decline. But on a personal level, Khanna announced his marriage to Kavita. In 1997, he launched his son Akshaye Khanna in his home production Himalay Putra. The film tanked.

The year 1997 also saw him join the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and win from the Gurdaspur constituency, Punjab in the Lok Sabha polls. In 1999, he was re-elected to the Lok Sabha from the same constituency. By this time, Khanna had learned to balance both Bollywood and politics.

Actors-turned-politicians Shatrughan Sinha and Vinod Khanna pose for photographers after the swearing-in-ceremony in New Delhi, 1 July 2002. (Photo: Reuters)

I happened to bump into him at a film event soon after the release of his two films Kranti and Deewanapan. He said he enjoyed politics but found it stimulating to be in a creative environment and vowed that he would pursue both for as long as he could. And he did.

After losing out in the 2009 Lok Sabha poll, Khanna bounced back in the 2014 general elections. For a monk who sold his Mercedes and turned a gardener, the actor/politician has gone through too many highs and lows to worry about his popularity.

The Vinod Khanna I know has no fears and lives each day as it comes.

(Actor Vinod Khanna died on 27 April 2017 after a reported battle with cancer. This article, by film critic Bhawana Somaaya, is being reposted from The Quint's archives.)

(Bhawana Somaaya has been writing on cinema for 30 years and is the author of 12 books. Twitter: @bhawanasomaaya)

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Posted: 7 years ago
#23


Wish I knew 😆

Bhagwan Rajneesh aka Osho was known for his lavish lifestyle - 93 rolls royce in his 64,000 acre Oregan Ashram called Rajneeshpuram

Then he was kicked out of USA went back to Pune, India

I really don't know what his core teaching are. Wiki says he advocated more open attitude towards human sexuality and was against socialism, Mahatma Gandhi's teachings and Hindu Orthodoxy... I can understand his teachings must've been revolutionary in India at that time period, provided respite to some people who felt suffocated under those policies

He looks like a creep to me but must've been a really charismatic man as he was able to cast a spell on thousands and make them fall in love with him, give up everything for him


"Wild Wild Country" is a new Netflix series about Rajneeshpuram

Edited by -Betty- - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#24
One thing impressive about this guy was how much he was able to accumulate in that short period of time. Like this dude had his own freaking airport/airplane along with his own private army and his own little "country".
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Posted: 7 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: -Sara.

I also think that he was the mastermind behind this, he literally created a cult😆

What kind of justice is this, when someone can get off in just 29 months after so many attempted murders, wire-tapping, poisoning hundreds..🥱



Supposedly she got off for good behavior... What was she? Mother Teresa in prison 😛
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Posted: 7 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: Meherya123

Somehow never really understood osho/rajneesh cult but saw his photo in a schizophrenia clinic i had been to with my psychiatrist friend



Saw his photo? Was your psychiatric friend his follower? Or was he a patient?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I can't believe even Vinod Khanna was a part of all of this. Is there any reason as to why he left and later returned back to BW?
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Posted: 7 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: -Betty-



Supposedly she got off for good behavior... What was she? Mother Teresa in prison 😛


It is fishy as hell. Apparently now she lives in Zurich and she was convicted of something😕
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Posted: 7 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: -Betty-



Saw his photo? Was your psychiatric friend his follower? Or was he a patient?

no, my friend is a psychiatrist, she doesn't follow him, but the department head had osho's photo in his cabin along with some other eccentric personalities' photos.like aurobindo, that woman in aurobindo's ashram i think she is referred tp as mother..
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Posted: 7 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: -Sara.

I can't believe even Vinod Khanna was a part of all of this. Is there any reason as to why he left and later returned back to BW?



Rajneesh returned to India (was kicked out of US) in 1985, so Khanna must've returned with him

Bold - He was going thru some innner turmoil after few deaths in his family and maybe seeking peace...


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