Tej, the weakest Oberoi?

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Anisa

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Posted: 8 years ago

I typed a long post yesterday, but IF swallowed it. 😭 (yeah, i know, i should have copied text or did it on MSWord)

But as yesterday's episode continues the theme of the previous, here goes, again...

I'm more curious than ever, as to what sort of a man, Prithvi Singh Oberoi (Dadu) was, the one who built the Oberoi Group from scratch, with the love of his life by his side (Dadi- the Ishqbaaz Original😆), and what he did as a father, to raise such a sulky discontented person like Tej Singh Oberoi.

Was it lack of attention from his father? A constant need to prove himself better than his brother, (presuming) the favourite? Deep seated need to always be No.1 , the best, the ultimate Oberoi.

When his father passed on, he didn't sit and grieve badly, but took charge and drove the company to the next level.

15 years being named as the Businessman of the Year.

One would think he would big hearted enough to pass it on to the next chap, already being a legend. Especially since the new winner is his own nephew. No pride, or camaraderie, just pettiness and jealousy.

Because Shivaay appears more efficient, successful, more self assured, supremely confident, and enjoys the adulation of the entire Oberoi family. It must be eating him inside. To see his pathetic brother Shakti WIN in terms of better children, the ONE child he has, compared to his 3.

This is the man who stole his best friend's fiancee, a beautiful and successful businesswoman in her own right, made her life chaos and then turned her into a discontented housewife. While he felt bored with her, and went to search for another intelligent beautiful woman to entertain him, Svetlana.

I see the devastation in Jhanvi's eyes. She raised 3 genuinely nice children, with no arrogance and bad behaviour. And yet, she gets no credit. She's not even entitled to her husband's loyalty.

Omkara is very rude to his father. Tej feels his eldest has succeeded only because of his surname, but then so did he. He benefitted from his father's foundation business. What a hypocrite. If at all Omkara , Rudra, Priyanka and Shivaay are entitled to, its their birthright, their names.

Poor Rudra is anxious seeing everything crumbling around him. Om wants to leave, Dad is fighting with Mum and wants to leave also, Dad brings Svetlana INTO their house, Shivaay is fighting with Annika also. Poor kid can't handle all this himself.

I shudder to think of what Svetlana intends to do being inside Oberoi Mansion. Surely it can't be as petty as making Jhanvi look bad so she can separate Tej and her. And what? Become Mrs Tej Oberoi herself? *facepalm*

There's no reason to kill Shivaay, he's the other honeypot apart from Tej. Both money making machines. Its Jhanvi and Annika who are in their way, and going to be targets. Tia was never successful, but Svetlana is deadly.

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asya34

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Posted: 8 years ago

My major worry is Svetlana as well

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K.AJAY MANIKANTA

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Posted: 8 years ago

Beautiful post nd a bang on analysis...whenever this dysfunctional family drama comes into play, i jump with xcitement...But this tym around we didnt get Pinky-Tej nok-jhok(perfect they r passing on comments to each other)..Anyways, Tej is a hypocrite,well known fact...I am more concerned for Jhanvi...poor lady...We could connect to her pain very well!!!!Lets see what deadly olans Svetlana has...I dont give a damn to Tia&Romi...but Svetlana u cant be sure of her!!!She is hardcore dangerous!!!

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Krantikari

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Posted: 8 years ago

I disagree. I think Jhanvi is the weakest Oberoi. Tej might be bitter, a hypocrite, spiteful, greedy & a lot of other things but I don't think he is selfish & weak. Though I am in no way condoning his actions, his constant need for his son Omkara to get the upper hand over Shivaay in business is demonstrative of the extent of his love for his son. And his disappointment in his son is justified in his own way because he has dedicated his whole life to this cause, for what he considers is for the betterment of his own son's future. I don't call that a selfish trait because parents can't be expected to have zero expectations from their offspring. I don't think it has anything to do with being envious of Shakti cuz he was always far more accomplished than Shakti.

Now let me explain why I believe Jhanvi is the weakest Oberoi. She entered into a relationship with Tej being FULLY AWARE of his nature and that he is as flawed as can be. SHE left her would-be-husband at the altar for Tej, he didn't force her to. And then she married him willingly. How could she not have known that there was no way on Earth that this man would let her be a working mother, then? I don't feel any sympathy for people who WILLINGLY accept situations despite being fully aware of the negative impacts that could result. TejVi were always headed towards doom cuz Jhanvi never loved and accepted Tej with all his flaws. She just fell in love with the dream of the ideal Tej cooked up in her brain and probably willlingly entered into the relationship thinking her 'love' can transform him. It just doesn't work like that.😛 Tej was never pretentious & never pretended to be heroic/good in any way. So he can't be blamed here for leading her on...

As for Jahnvi raising 3 genuinely nice children, disagree again. Did she even have the time to raise any of them? She was too busy drowning herself in alcohol to forget her woes and cope with depression. A CLEAR demonstration of weakness. She is truly selfish that she gave precedence to her straining relationship with Tej & it's after effects rather than focus on her OWN kids. That is selfish-ness cuz the kids had to bear the negative effects of her failing marriage with Tej. When that should have never been the case. Such parents don't deserve any 'credit' at all, not even the slightest. I am not saying Tej had no fault in this, he obviously did. He also neglected his children cuz he was too busy setting up Oberoi empire. But again notice that's also BECAUSE of his kids, because he wanted to take no chance and ensure a bright future for his children. Is that such a crime? And the only reason he didn't allow Jhanvi to work is because of this, cuz he knew he would be too busy working to allow ample time to his children and he forced her to make the sacrifice. Again, I'm not saying women should always make the sacrifice and that Tej was right here but see my main point, it's that if Jhanvi was a good parent she wouldn't have neglected her kids like this. If your spouse physically/mentally abuses you, you don't let the repurcussions of that impact on your offspring. TejVi are TOTAL failures as parents.

Care to explain how TejVj kids are 'genuinely' nice?😆 Only Rudra can be called that and I might credit this to Shivaay cuz he seems to have taken most care of him. Prinku and Om turned out to be weak just like their mom and who could blame them because kids only learn from what they see. Being well mannered & nice to people doesn't automatically make anyone nice. Another big criteria for being genuinely nice is possessing family values. Which Rudra does have. But Om & Prinku don't. If you must practice charity, you must begin it at your own homes. Talking rudely to parent, raising hands to slap own father, doing drugs & attempting suicide are hardly any indicators of 'niceness'. Shouting at father and calling him out for his cheating ways does NOTHING. You must also do something about it. Words by themselves have no meaning unless they translated into action. Prinku was the truly neglected one and by association with Om, she also went wayward. Reference the accident on her 16th birthday. Both are completely irresponsible people (but Om gets lion share of blame here cuz she was only 16 then). Escapism is no way to cope with life's stark realities. One takes to drugs to cope & the other one runs off to camps. Again, something they most probably picked up from their mom.😛 Jhanvi by never reprimanding her kids for all this just encouraged them to continue like this. Maybe she never said anything cuz she either 1) Didn't notice or didn't care to notice cus she was too busy dealing with own problems or 2)Had no words to say cuz she herself was guilty of the same.

Rudra himself is no outcome of exceptional parenting but he turned out best from TejVi's three kids. This maybe out of his own accord or cuz of spending most of his time with Shivaay bhaiyya who himself is no exceptional person but is a manwho has family values in him bhar bhar ke.😛 Tej should hedge his bets on Rudra if you ask me and stop wasting time on Om. 😛

Sorry for the long essay and I hope I made some sense. No offence intended and I'd appreciate if no one moral policed me for my opinion, thanks.

Edited by YoonHiChala - 8 years ago

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Anisa

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: asya34
My major worry is Svetlana as well

She is quite malevolent and cunning. These 3 girls are being used by their mother for her nefarious purpose of revenge. I was hoping Mrs K gets exposed and to see her 3 children reel with what they have done.

But seriously, is becoming Tej Oberoi's wife the only way to destroy him?

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Anisa

@AnnzSageflower7

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ajay227
Beautiful post nd a bang on analysis...whenever this dysfunctional family drama comes into play, i jump with xcitement...But this tym around we didnt get Pinky-Tej nok-jhok(perfect they r passing on comments to each other)..Anyways, Tej is a hypocrite,well known fact...I am more concerned for Jhanvi...poor lady...We could connect to her pain very well!!!!Lets see what deadly olans Svetlana has...I dont give a damn to Tia&Romi...but Svetlana u cant be sure of her!!!She is hardcore dangerous!!!

Yes, Svetlana is very dangerous. She comes with great hype, let's see if she actually does something dangerous, or just wants to be an Oberoi Bahu after all.😆

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Innika

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Posted: 8 years ago

So I was talking to my sister about this a few days ago in the car, and to a certain extent I do agree with your analysis of Tej.

The conversation actually started with me complaining about how Shivaay and Tej have the potential to be the least intelligent people in the household.

Yes, theoretically, if we're talking about brains, then sure, they're brilliant. One's an Oxford graduate, the other a Harvard. They're the leading businessmen in their industry, and like you said, have won countless awards for said aptitude.

However, what really surprises me sometimes is how they have become so successful in their careers, with the personalities that both of them have. I've studied bits and pieces of Business before, and one of the first things that they tell you is that brains aren't enough. You need to apply your intelligence.

These two men are sometimes portrayed to be so daft it goes over my head. They take everything at face value, lack social tact at times, and don't seem to possess the charm needed for the corporate industry. Being ruthless is not enough.

You need to look at the details, need to delve deeper, rather than trusting what you see.

Come on, Shivaay is certain that the kid isn't his - and yet, two positive DNA tests later, he's pretty much accepted the child as his own. Where was the determination and ruthlessness that was his trademark in the earlier episodes? Or is that simply reserved for Annika, and Annika only?

And look at his uncle - Svetlana tells him about some random deal, and let alone look at any of the details, he decides to take her word for it and do what she says.

Sometimes I honestly think most of the women of Oberoi mansion have the potential to be better in business than the men. Pinky however, for me, is an exception. Like her son and brother-in-law, she only takes things at face value, and to a certain extent, is very naive.

But the other women could definitely give the men a run for their money. For one, Jhanvi was supposedly equally, or even better than Tej in the industry. She's suave, well-spoken, intelligent and trusts her own instinct and knowledge, over what others tell her. Annika, while eccentric and wild at times, knows the ways of the world and like Jhanvi, trusts her own instinct, unlike both of their husbands who only believe the facts, even if it puts them in a severely compromising situation. Saumya, too, is self-assured, and intelligent. As for Priyanka, I think that if she is ever put in a situation where she is angered or extremely hurt (like the scene that we saw when she thinks the ACP was taking photos of her) , we would see a much more powerful side of her. Even during the PriOm murder/guilt sequence, she is the one that is brave enough to take responsibility, unlike Om, who tries to run away from the situation.

These four women, under the right guidance could blow away Shivaay and Tej. All four are fiercely loyal, self-assured, and worldly - unlike the men of the mansion, who seem to progressively be getting more and more naive, and I daresay, stupid.

However, saying all that I have, I do think that Tej's character has more depth than what he has been put out as.

He's definitely insecure, as you insinuated, but I think that his relentless pursuit of the Oberoi business stems from more than that.

I think that the man genuinely wants to do well for his son, and offering the business, in the beginning, was a sort of olive branch. When that didn't work, that's when the force started. I really relate to the TejKara situation because it really reminds me of the relationship with my own father. Don't get me wrong, I love my father to the ends of the world, but sometimes our opinions clash. Like Om, I hate being controlled, and I usually drift towards the more creative, artistic part of life. while my dad, like Tej, is very grounded and fact-based. He's tried to get me to take subjects and pursue career paths that I have absolutely no interest in, and I've lashed out. TejKara is the over-dramatised version of the same dynamic.

I understand where Tej is coming from, though. He wants his own children to do well, and yet, none of them seem to have remotely any interest in the business. Hell, they don't even have a good relationship with their father, and I think that is what really irks him the most, out of everything.

I would like to believe that there is more of a caring, family man inside of him - but at this rate, I think that the CVs are hellbent on making him a very two-dimensional character.

In regards to Tej's behaviour yesterday though, I would just like to say one thing that I've grown up hearing.

The empty vessel sounds the most.

Edited by Innika - 8 years ago

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Anisa

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: YoonHiChala
I disagree. I think Jhanvi is the weakest Oberoi. Tej might be bitter, a hypocrite, spiteful, greedy & a lot of other things but I don't think he is selfish & weak. Though I am in no way condoning his actions, his constant need for his son Omkara to get the upper hand over Shivaay in business is demonstrative of the extent of his love for his son. And his disappointment in his son is justified in his own way because he has dedicated his whole life to this cause, for what he considers is for the betterment of his own son's future. I don't call that a selfish trait because parents can't be expected to have zero expectations from their offspring. I don't think it has anything to do with being envious of Shakti cuz he was always far more accomplished than Shakti.

I can see you POV somewhat. Tej is a hardnosed working man, who cannot fathom his kids loitering around in khakhis and playing with his craft things, or running around girls, instead of putting on a suit and going to work to make money, branching out the Oberoi business further.

Of course, as an ambitious parent, it is normal for him to feel dissatisfied with the choices his children made. Neither of them are driven like Shivaay. He sees the Oberoi group as pieces of a pie, each only getting share, instead of everyone being of the same pie. Why? because he is one of three who are contributing to the money being carelessly thrown about by the family.

As far as Shakti is concerned, he hasn't been father of the year either. Shivaay passively respects and obeys but shares no warmth with his father. Pinky is at a loss as to how to connect with her son. They aren't the best of parents either.

Dadi spoils them all, with her romantic ideals. But they aren't bad people. They can't help it if they have too much.😆 Poor Oberois.

Now let me explain why I believe Jhanvi is the weakest Oberoi. She entered into a relationship with Tej being FULLY AWARE of his nature and that he is as flawed as can be. SHE left her would-be-husband at the altar for Tej, he didn't force her to. And then she married him willingly. How could she not have known that there was no way on Earth that this man would let her be a working mother, then? I don't feel any sympathy for people who WILLINGLY accept situations despite being fully aware of the negative impacts that could result. TejVi were always headed towards doom cuz Jhanvi never loved and accepted Tej with all his flaws. She just fell in love with the dream of the ideal Tej cooked up in her brain and probably willlingly entered into the relationship thinking her 'love' can transform him. It just doesn't work like that.😛 Tej was never pretentious & never pretended to be heroic/good in any way. So he can't be blamed here for leading her on...

As for Jahnvi raising 3 genuinely nice children, disagree again. Did she even have the time to raise any of them? She was too busy drowning herself in alcohol to forget her woes and cope with depression. A CLEAR demonstration of weakness. She is truly selfish that she gave precedence to her straining relationship with Tej & it's after effects rather than focus on her OWN kids. That is selfish-ness cuz the kids had to bear the negative effects of her failing marriage with Tej. When that should have never been the case. Such parents don't deserve any 'credit' at all, not even the slightest. I am not saying Tej had no fault in this, he obviously did. He also neglected his children cuz he was too busy setting up Oberoi empire. But again notice that's also BECAUSE of his kids, because he wanted to take no chance and ensure a bright future for his children. Is that such a crime? And the only reason he didn't allow Jhanvi to work is because of this, cuz he knew he would be too busy working to allow ample time to his children and he forced her to make the sacrifice. Again, I'm not saying women should always make the sacrifice and that Tej was right here but see my main point, it's that if Jhanvi was a good parent she wouldn't have neglected her kids like this. If your spouse physically/mentally abuses you, you don't let the repurcussions of that impact on your offspring. TejVi are TOTAL failures as parents.

THis is debatable. Jhanvi is an educated woman who had a job, forced to quit it to have kids. Rich people work and let nannies take care of their kids. Not everyone are hands on parents like real life.😆.. They are spoilt kids, yeah, but they are not evil. Don't discount Prinku yet, she might turn out to be the one who might go into the business. 😉

About Om, oh i agree, he is very rude. I dont' agree with the way he shouts at his father and disrespects the man. And no one tells him to stop! Jhanvi or Dadi or Shivaay, anyone of them could make him behave. He is a grown man, the only people he respects are his mother, Dadi and Shivaay.

I too found it hypocritical that being so righteous, he turns to drugs and suicide attempts to escape his problems. He is a grown up emo teenager.

Care to explain how TejVj kids are 'genuinely' nice?😆 Only Rudra can be called that and I might credit this to Shivaay cuz he seems to have taken most care of him. Prinku and Om turned out to be weak just like their mom and who could blame them because kids only learn from what they see. Being well mannered & nice to people doesn't automatically make anyone nice. Another big criteria for being genuinely nice is possessing family values. Which Rudra does have. But Om & Prinku don't. If you must practice charity, you must begin it at your own homes. Talking rudely to parent, raising hands to slap own father, doing drugs & attempting suicide are hardly any indicators of 'niceness'. Shouting at father and calling him out for his cheating ways does NOTHING. You must also do something about it. Words by themselves have no meaning unless they translated into action. Prinku was the truly neglected one and by association with Om, she also went wayward. Reference the accident on her 16th birthday. Both are completely irresponsible people (but Om gets lion share of blame here cuz she was only 16 then). Escapism is no way to cope with life's stark realities. One takes to drugs to cope & the other one runs off to camps. Again, something they most probably picked up from their mom.😛 Jhanvi by never reprimanding her kids for all this just encouraged them to continue like this. Maybe she never said anything cuz she either 1) Didn't notice or didn't care to notice cus she was too busy dealing with own problems or 2)Had no words to say cuz she herself was guilty of the same.

Rudra himself is no outcome of exceptional parenting but he turned out best from TejVi's three kids. This maybe out of his own accord or cuz of spending most of his time with Shivaay bhaiyya who himself is no exceptional person but is a manwho has family values in him bhar bhar ke.😛 Tej should hedge his bets on Rudra if you ask me and stop wasting time on Om. 😛

Sorry for the long essay and I hope I made some sense. No offence intended and I'd appreciate if no one moral policed me for my opinion, thanks.

Rant away. You are very eloquent ! People can have different opinions. I only have issues when people ridicule others for having a different opinion. Like what you like, hate what you hate, just don't judge people for not agreeing with you...😉

Edited by AnnzSageflower7 - 8 years ago

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Anju.

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Posted: 8 years ago

Tej loves himself and nothing else except from himself it is not love for Omkara which is compelling him to ask him to marry an unknown girl it is only through Omkara that he's going to reach his final destination and his only goal that's beating shivaay in business.
he's such a greedy man.

In Oberoi family the only excuse is their reputation??? so sick as if rich family never go to a private clinic where he could have paid for Svetlana treatment and also asked them not to spread the news.

The car of Shivaay was not left on the road burning finally the police will not reach the owner so what's this excuse of the media each and everytime.

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FlauntPesimism

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Posted: 8 years ago

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The business wasn't made from scratch by Dash it was done by Tej. Dadi when came from Pakistan after partition had practically nothing. He somehow managed to get a decent life for his family a middle class businessman but he died early. After that Shakti got into depression and locked him into a room at this time Tej took the lead and started making the Oberoi empire single handedly (unlike Shivaaaye he didn't have any mentor) and make Oberoi a brand.

Tej has no hatred for Shivaaaye he wants him to excel in his life just he doesn't want him to overtake him or his sons. So when Shivaaaye joined he did it under the mentorship of Tej and did slowly became a better businessman. However he has yet not overtaken Tej. He won the best businesses man award as this marriage with Tia raised his stocks to sky high (but still he is only marginally ahead of Tej that is why he expected the best businesses man award this year too) However bad he might have become now Tej wasn't this bad years back. He married a run away bride which would have actually lowered his stock prices)

Saying this definitely Shivaaaye would have become a much better businessman (as compared to Tej)after having experience like Tej

I am not commenting on if or not he is weak but just the facts that have been shown in the story which you wrongly mentioned.