Tej, the weakest Oberoi? - Page 4

Originally posted by: blackorwhite

Real life called and I was very happy with aaj ka episode toh iss analysis ka mood banane mein time lag gaya

Hahah. LOL. No one (well most people anyway) would be in a mood to discuss Tej & his family after last epi.😆 And sorry, I was really busy today. Only just got free and noticed your reply.

I have a feeling you will be proved wrong.. He is selfish for himself and he is personally jealous of Shivaay's success.. But chalo abhi ke liye Man lete hai.. he is selfish because he wants his sons to 'succeed'😆

Okay, let's see what happens.

A relationship between a parent & child should be one of give & take (this applies to all relationships in life in mostly IMO).

Keh di Shivaay ki boli..😊 I have mixed feelings about this.. I'm conflicted.. Head says a SOLID yes and heart says a FIRM nada😆

Main bhi usski tarah practical hoon shayad.😛😆 "Mera dil mujhse KUCH nahi bolta," *sticks up thumb* like Shivaay.🤣

Ohh I can't and have not and will never be able to outright reject my parent for anything.. But am also lucky that they are always ready to discuss and in most cases have let me do what I wanted to do - make my own mistakes, go on my own journey and yes, we have had our fair share of difference in opinions but we talked and sorted them out.. 😊

Same to same. 😉

Let's look at this from Om's perspective.. You want him to show a little interest in business for his dad who is having an affair with his secretary and cheats on his mom, dominates him, ignores Rudra, demeans his dream, is the sole reason for his mom's misery(at least for Om)... Aren't you asking too much from him???😆 Why should have he care to make his dad happy?😆 Again Om's perspective not mine our yours.. If I were in his place, I might have done the same thing.. 😆

Oh yes, I concede to this. LOL.😛😆 Though I have to again reiterate that revenge does nothing to solve issues. I like one thing about Om, he stands up for his mom and calls his dad out for his questionable behaviour/cheating. But again, like I said before. Just yelling never solves any issue. Kuch karna bhi parta hai.😛 Maybe if I were in his place, I would show interest in business only cuz that would allow me a chance to sudharofy my father. I might blackmail him and say that I will only join business if you ditch all of your kaale kartoot. Om ko kabhi yeh khayal nahi aayega because he is truly selfish.😛

Since I have not followed this drama properly just want to make sure..have they ever shown that Om has been dismissive of his dad before the affair and before the breakdown of TejVi's marriage??

Btw just to make sure you don't take this the wrong way, I don't think Om is always right 😆as you already know 😉 ... I was very disappointed with Om for not showing any emotions for Tej when Tej told them he met with an accident.. He should have some feelings/sympathy towards his dad which he seems to lack.. He is disrespectful and that is wrong..

Arre why would I think that? 😆 Main pagal nahi hoon, lol. Okay maybe just a little.😛

As for your question, nope. In the show, they have not shown anything like that yet. Tej was having an affair with Svet since day one of the show. As for breakdown of TejVi's marriage, well we don't know when exactly their marriage fell apart but I guess you can infer from's Om's behaviour with his father that he has been dismissive of his dad from much before (but can't be sure whether this silsila started prior to or after TejVi marriage breakdown).

Why must the parent always bury their dreams to give life to their child's dream?

Because they are their parents 😊 & your kids happiness matters more than your than your dream.. You can guide them through their life but you do not own their life😊

I agree with this myself...but I don't expect all parents to think the same & be selfless. I think it's fine to have some expectations. So lets agree to disagree here.😉

If one person does all the taking & the other person always keeps on giving(compromising), resentment brews & the relationship just falls apart.

Agreed.. But not sure if this applies to a parent-child relationship.. because parents can/should never resent their kids.. This statement has nothing to do with Tej-Om😊

Tej & Om both resent each other.😆

If he wouldn't have allowed his son's artistic dream to flourish, selfish toh chodo, I would have called him diabolical and hated him from the bottom of my heart and blamed him for everything that is wrong with the Oberois.. He has no right to sabotage anyone's career.. He did the same with Jhavi.. she buckled under pressure.. I'm glad Om did not.. 😊

Oh yes, we can give Om some credit here.😆 And I wouldn't have liked Tej if he did that...

I feel we might never agree on this point.. I think he is selfish because in order to fulfil his own dream, he is forcing his son to give up on his own.. He has every right to expect something from his sons, every right to even try and force them to try it a few times, and then every right to be disappointed if they don't.. But he needs to accept that after a few tries it is time to give up on his own dream, if this dream is parasitic to his son's and family's happiness.. Tej should learn to enjoy his sons dream and their success..😊

It's okay... I see your point and even agree somewhat. But again I will say that it is actually quite tough to give such a big sacrifice & if he did, that would make him self-LESS. Which he is not, for sure.😆 But being truly selfish means to ONLY worry about yourself and think about your own benefits. Which Tej is not doing, he is thinking about his son's future as well. So I guess that's why I can't exactly call him 'selfish'.

No I like Tej.. Strong character he is.. But Dark But you like too much.. So, just want to give you a reality check 😛 Also, I'm hellbent on trying to understand these 2 and I'm actually enjoying this 😆

Really? Hahah. I don't mind getting reality checks when I need them.

• Are you kidding me?? He is an adult!! Ismein realization ki kya baat hai if that is the case he gets Pappu No. 1 title.. Chalo I'll give you that he did distance himself from Svetlana after his suicide attempt.. But it needed a suicide attempt 😕 for him to realize ... too much it is.. Before that also he must have seen the negative impacts of his affair on Om right.. but he did nothing and hence, he is selfish.. 😛
• Arre see...what I meant by not 'realising' is that Tej is a little self-obsessed, so he doesn't usually realise how much he hurts people cuz he thinks he is always right (and others are wrong). Or he simply doesn't care and thinks he is above it all (you might think he is selfish for this reason). He is insensitive to others' feelings also and might have actually blamed Om instead of taking care of him. This is something about him I don't like...rigidity & superiority complex. I guess Om shares both of these flaws.😆
  
• How the hell is having an affair a rebellion 😲 He realized that his marriage is in trouble and he wanted to escape from it instead of sorting it out.. This dominated egoistic jerk.. I hate him after reading your para even more.. Yes, Jhanvi should have stood up for herself, I never disagreed with that but I disagree with you blaming her for this mess more than Tej 😊
• Hahaha...I don't exactly like these qualities either. LOL. I am not a fangirl of Tej c'mon, just the character I can appreciate a little cuz he's a jerk, but an *in your face* kinda jerk. Not behind the back wala.😆 And I can't defend cheating EVER. It's one of the many traits of Tej that I will never defend. And again, ahah. I don't like blame games. Just that I guess it's hard for me to sympathise with people who don't stand up for themselves when given the choice. Bure logo ki kaami nahi hai duniya mein, doesn't mean that when confronted with bure log, you just act all passive & let them take advantage of you. You are just as 'bad' as them if you do that. So, I guess I do concede that he is just as responsible for this mess as her. But she will end up winning all the sympathies (and no I don't agree that he should get any sympathy, he obviously does not) but this sort of acts like Newton's 3rd law for me. Every action has an equal & opposite reaction.🤣 So I'm like since most people in this situation would probably blame Tej (more), let me blame Jhanvi.😭 But it's not right to do this, I know.
  

It seems like what I think shows Tej's selfishness, you think that is his right 😊 - Tej wanting Om to follow Tej's dream instead of his own..

What I think is his weakness is rebellion for you 😛 HIs affair.. 😆

No, I don't think it is his right. Just that I can't exactly call him 'selfish' for that because he has his own son's best interests in mind...if in future they decide to make Tej's real intentions known... like if he actually did everything for himself. Then I will be the first person to call him selfish.😆

Re. the affair: See, I can't call his affair his weakness, or a form of escapism cuz he didn't try to hide his affair at all. Nor was he ever ashamed of it. He did everything openly, unashamedly & with no remorse. When people indulge in any form of escapism (and ofc this includes having affairs), they try to HIDE it and keep it as distant as they can from their daily life routine. And if they don't hide it, they are deffo ashamed of it & don't like to be reminded about it/called out for it. Tej ka kya hai, every time his son bajaos him for his affair and he doesn't move a single muscle.😆 He is shameless, you can say.🤣 SO I can't call his affair an example escapism for this reason...

Compare his situation to Jhanvi. Who also didn't bother hiding her alcoholic self away from society, but she was ashamed of it. She did not like doing all that AT ALL. Every time Tej/Pinky taunted her about her alcoholism, she wanted to hide. It was something out of her control but she didn't exactly wear the tag of an alcoholic proudly on her shoulders. Unlike Tej who carries in Svetlana in his arms to his own house in front of his entire family and doesn't have the word shame in his dictionary.😆

LMAO🤣 Sit and Talk & these Oberois!! Sorry I just can't 🤣

Hahaha, my bad. Should have realised that these people are incapable of this.😆

Agreed... They are not responsible parents.. And they should show disappointment instead of always shielding him but I don't think they can reprimand him.. which Shivaay did showed his disappointed right after that drug Om took the drugs and that is why we got the back-hug or am I forgetting what happened here 😆

What back hug? 😕 I don't remember a back hug.😆 Shivaay took all the blame on himself as well. And what disappointment? I don't remember him showing any disappointment in Om. He was only disappointed in himself for not being there for Om.🥱 Shivaay is a little biased for Om I feel and he probably thought that if he expressed disappointment in Om, he would go out of line again...he is really protective of Om.