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Posted: 8 years ago
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I maybe in the minority and will probably be labelled a classist when I say that Neha and Ranveer's marriage was doomed from the beginning. (Yes, exactly the way GKB proclaimed. When GKB is not troubling Sona and serving her self-interests, she is used as the voice of reason in the show. And Dev had his own doubts too about the marriage due to financial situation. But I won't say Sona is wrong coz she is an idealist and she truly believes love conquers all.)

Love is fabulous. When you are in love, you feel you are flying, as if you are the most beautiful person in this entire world, that nothing is more important than the person you love, nothing seems impossible including decapitating differences in lifestyle that rule the real world.

Neha is who she is due to her scarred childhood. Neha abhors poverty just as much as she detests the fact that her mother sacrificed her life for her first born male child.

Therefore, will Neha ever rise above life itself for her love? Coz Ranveer is no businessman to make it huge in life. Neither is he extraordinarily ambitious. But Neha...she wants ...sorry needs luxuries because that is the right she has earned for all her sacrifices during childhood.

Therefore, I agree with you that Neha-Ranveer divorce is the most plausible route that life takes in reality. But this is a tele show. I maybe wrong but I feel fixing Neha-Ranveer's marriage trouble is Sona's ticket to Ishwari's acceptance, at least temporarily. Hence, the cv's may take that route. But if they want to keep it real, divorce would be the way forward.

Great thoughts and review btw!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sam 🤗 OMG my day is made to see all old goldies post in a single day😆 I know how much you love Neha and was expecting a post since the whole week episodes revolved around her and tada here you are😉

BTW absolutely brilliant post 👏 Everytime you write, something pops in my mind and bring the new insight to the story !! You have beautifully explained the underlining difference in Dev- Sona and Neha-Ranveer relationship...How true!!.. both Neha and Ranveer have compromised their most important values for their marriage whereas Dev and Sona have managed to hold on to theirs.

Do you really think this is the end of Neha -Ranveer? Though both have hit rock bottom why I have a feeling that Neha will bounce back and stand against her brother for Ranveer? or will she be in happy tears seeing the love of her brother to the extend of crushing her husband for defaming her? Now this is what itching me more for Monday episode because the precap looked like a two-edged sword.

And you are correct in guessing Sona's eagerness to solve this problem as she is wrongly comparing her love relationship to be similar to Neha & Ranveer's. Maybe on a subconscious level she is scared of going through the same with Dev if Neha's can't be repaired !!

And I definitely see a change in Ishwari as expected and she is slowly loosing her grip on her son because as you said, I didn't hear the usual accusing tone instead heard a defeated tired one. Looks like Neha's pbm along with the realization that Sona too deserves Dev's attention is slowly creeping into her mind.

I feel Neha played the pivotal role in the changing dynamics of Dixit family this week and should give the CVs their due credit for this wonderful track change👏...oh the interesting days are back where I refresh the online pages every 5 seconds for links😆 Thank you for this wonderful post again Sam 🤗
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Brilliant post. It is very difficult for Neha and Ranveer to patch up and even if they do in the serial, i think in real life past issues always pops up and usually couples cannot live happily and soon or later they separate.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: dlavanya

Nice to see your post sam .. I was thinking everyone abandoned ship as most of regular posters didnt post last and this week . I guess diwali effect.. I am glad everyone is back now.
I am seriously worried about ranveer neha -- there is too much bitterness. Not sure how they will resolve it. I guess cvs are going to take their own time to settle this matter. May be they will be separated temporarily,neha does somethibg and become financially independent and then meet with rv again and get together. Not sure how many number of pyar ke bhashan are going to help the situation now.. It is very interesting and i am glued to the show like never before.

Ishwari has definitely mellowed down towards sona. But i still am a bit irritated that she chose to go to temple alone when she could have taken neha ir other girls with her.. That was her chance to show neha that she will get her part of importance and love from ishwari. She missed a golden chance to mend her relationship with neha.. She said tujhe apne palkon pe saja ke rakhi gi .. But still she has not taken any major step to include neha in all her exclusive paramparas.


Thanks! I don't really get time to post during the week, but I make it a point to come on weekends, and that has been working really well for me the past few weeks. I feel like it gives me a whole new perspective to think about the show one week at a time as well, and that was a nice bonus! 😃

I totally agree about Ranveer and Neha. I just don't see how this marriage is the way to happiness for either of them anymore. I love them, and it would have been wonderful to see them make it work, but their was just too much baggage from both sides. I would love to see Neha become financially independent! I remember right in the beginning when she was marrying that other guy, she was so excited to do the interiors for their new apartment... maybe that's where her interests might lead her? With their family's money and her intelligence, there is nothing stopping her from pursuing anything that gives her satisfaction and joy.

Baby steps for Ishwari... she's not going to change overnight! 😆 This time she learned to accept, albeit grudgingly, that Dev had other responsibilities. Next time when she is more used to this idea, maybe her thought process will extend to Neha filling that gap. The process for Ishwari's growth has only just begun.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: gemini54

👏 For such a beautiful, beautiful post.


You wrote out the whole dynamics so well. Neha is one of my favorite characters on the show. She in my opinion has suffered a lot and I believed that this Divorce was her cry for help. This new twist of Ranveer citing harassment has somehow turned the story of Neha and Ranveer. Sometimes maybe love is just not enough to sustain. It is maybe time for Neha to explore what she really wants from life and it may not lead to getting back together with Ranveer. I loved what you wrote about Sona 's dynamics in this whole situation. Earlier also Sona was offended and hurt about Dev's actions when it came to money and it seems Dev is doing it again.

The show is really moving on to a very interesting phase.

Thanks again for an insightful piece of writing



Aw, thank you! 🤗

Neha is my favourite too (as you can probably tell)! I think she has been crying out for help for years now, with her cynical attitude. She was just saying those horrible things so that someone would contradict her and convince her that she was in fact loved and cherished... but nobody managed to convince her until Ranveer came along. For the first time, someone was looking and listening to her, and that meant everything to Neha. Ishwari capitalised on the moment when Neha was all blissed out and got her married, leaving her to deal with the aftermath. In some ways, it wasn't different from what Asha did for Sona but for one thing: Ishwari pushed Neha towards Ranveer because she thought she could be happy with him, while Asha pushed Sona towards Dev because she knew she couldn't be happy without him. It's not a huge difference but for the fact that one engenders expectation while the other creates acceptance. And that has become the key difference between Dev/Sona and Ranveer/Neha's relationships: accepting vs. expecting (loving this wordplay! 😆).

Sona may get angry at the incidents of Dev abusing his wealth, and Dev may get angry at the incidents where Sona is over-idealistic and sees everything in black and white, but is an underlying acceptance at play, because the alternative -- separation -- is unthinkable to either of them. I don't see that being the case for Ranveer and Neha, unfortunately.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sandyaramesh

I maybe in the minority and will probably be labelled a classist when I say that Neha and Ranveer's marriage was doomed from the beginning. (Yes, exactly the way GKB proclaimed. When GKB is not troubling Sona and serving her self-interests, she is used as the voice of reason in the show. And Dev had his own doubts too about the marriage due to financial situation. But I won't say Sona is wrong coz she is an idealist and she truly believes love conquers all.)


Love is fabulous. When you are in love, you feel you are flying, as if you are the most beautiful person in this entire world, that nothing is more important than the person you love, nothing seems impossible including decapitating differences in lifestyle that rule the real world.

Neha is who she is due to her scarred childhood. Neha abhors poverty just as much as she detests the fact that her mother sacrificed her life for her first born male child.

Therefore, will Neha ever rise above life itself for her love? Coz Ranveer is no businessman to make it huge in life. Neither is he extraordinarily ambitious. But Neha...she wants ...sorry needs luxuries because that is the right she has earned for all her sacrifices during childhood.

Therefore, I agree with you that Neha-Ranveer divorce is the most plausible route that life takes in reality. But this is a tele show. I maybe wrong but I feel fixing Neha-Ranveer's marriage trouble is Sona's ticket to Ishwari's acceptance, at least temporarily. Hence, the cv's may take that route. But if they want to keep it real, divorce would be the way forward.

Great thoughts and review btw!


Thanks!

I don't know if I would say if their relationship was necessarily doomed, but it certainly had the odds stacked against it! If it were to work, their relationship would have required brutally honest communication and compassion from one to the other. Unfortunately, the moment things didn't go her way, Neha unleashed her bitter tongue, and Ranveer was more than happy to go on with his life as he saw fit, not really making the necessary accomodations for a new, and very emotionally fragile person being in his life.

GKB also only turned out to be right because other aspects of the situation didn't work out. Had Ranveer made a point to give Neha the romance she craved, instead of leaving her in a mundane, thankless existence once again, the money part wouldn't have mattered. Had she gotten more support from her own family to make this relationship work... like respecting her situation and not demanding expensive gifts from her at Sona and Dev's wedding, then maybe the lack of material comfort would not have made a difference. It's only making a difference now, because she was unhappy about other things, and figured, better to be rich and unhappy than poor and unhappy!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepsel

Sam 🤗 OMG my day is made to see all old goldies post in a single day😆 I know how much you love Neha and was expecting a post since the whole week episodes revolved around her and tada here you are😉


You know me too well! How could I ever miss writing about Neha? 😃


BTW absolutely brilliant post 👏 Thank you! Everytime you write, something pops in my mind and bring the new insight to the story !! You have beautifully explained the underlining difference in Dev- Sona and Neha-Ranveer relationship...How true!!.. both Neha and Ranveer have compromised their most important values for their marriage whereas Dev and Sona have managed to hold on to theirs.

Even more than that, they are lucky enough to truly love almost everything about each other. There are only a few key issues where they differ. Sona sees the world as fair, so you have to exist honourably within it for it to do right by you. Dev, on the other hand, does not see it as so black and white because the world was not fair to him and his family in their worst times. As a result he thinks it's better to attack and subjugate people with whatever force you have, before they can hurt you. Morals are all well and good, but they don't always apply, according to his own life experience has taught him. Other than that, Sona and Dev's thoughts are pretty aligned in every way. Sona gets why Dev is so close to Ishwari, even though it scares her, and Dev loves Sona's independence and open mindedness.

Do you really think this is the end of Neha -Ranveer? Though both have hit rock bottom why I have a feeling that Neha will bounce back and stand against her brother for Ranveer? or will she be in happy tears seeing the love of her brother to the extend of crushing her husband for defaming her? Now this is what itching me more for Monday episode because the precap looked like a two-edged sword.

I don't know; at this point, I don't see how they could salvage their marriage. The CVs would have to come up with something really convincing, but I am totally open to changing my mind! Right now, I think the love that Neha is getting from her family (finally) and the anger at Ranveer is guiding her. It remains to be seen what happens when she calms down a little and finds herself back where she started.

And you are correct in guessing Sona's eagerness to solve this problem as she is wrongly comparing her love relationship to be similar to Neha & Ranveer's. Maybe on a subconscious level she is scared of going through the same with Dev if Neha's can't be repaired !!

And I definitely see a change in Ishwari as expected and she is slowly loosing her grip on her son because as you said, I didn't hear the usual accusing tone instead heard a defeated tired one. Looks like Neha's pbm along with the realization that Sona too deserves Dev's attention is slowly creeping into her mind.

Right? I'm glad you saw that as well. I wonder if Ranveer's failure to measure up, and his shocking false allegation which Ishwari herself said she never thought possible from him, got her thinking about whether her own son was meeting the requirements as a husband. All said and done, Neha has brought some new wind to her maika and I am not complaining!

I feel Neha played the pivotal role in the changing dynamics of Dixit family this week and should give the CVs their due credit for this wonderful track change👏...oh the interesting days are back where I refresh the online pages every 5 seconds for links😆 Thank you for this wonderful post again Sam 🤗
The show is indeed at a super-interesting cross-roads right now. Part of the reason I am interested in them handling diviorce is becuase they are doing a great job of hitting on how women's issues often get overlooked in the expectation for them to be selfless goddesses. They've done a great job with widowhood, and how lonely that leaves a woman when her children are grown up, they have introduced infertility with Sona, and it would be interesting to see yet another angle, if they chose to go with divorce for Neha.

Thank you for your amazing response!


Edited by Samanalyse - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Maya_Dutt

Brilliant post. It is very difficult for Neha and Ranveer to patch up and even if they do in the serial, i think in real life past issues always pops up and usually couples cannot live happily and soon or later they separate.


Thank you! That's the way I see it. So many things have been said and done at this point, that I really don't know how they would be able to put it all behind them and move forward.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you! 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: gmgi

Hi Sam 🤗
Beautiful analysis. I still had hopes on Neha- Ranveer reconciliation until Thursday episode. But now asking myself what now Ranveer never wanted to marry n Neha never believed that love will ever find her. Despite this they both found each other and fell in love n got married. But difficulties in life forced them to acknowledge that they were wrong in expecting their partner to be something they were not. Now will they be able to love them for who they are?

Loved what you had written about Sona seeing her relationship reflected in Neha- Ranveer. So true. Their first fight after confession was also based on the same. But unlike Dev n Sona, Neha n Ranveer are separated because of problems between themselves.

Agree with you regarding a resigned Ishwari. She is too preoccupied now and she is genuinely concerned about Neha. In the gift scene she was closely watching Neha's expressions and was relieved only after Dev gave her the gift and Neha smiled. She was relieved when Dev said he remembers everything and understood Neha's needs.




Hi there! Just noticed after replying to the others that you had edited your response... YAY! 😃

You have so perfectly summarised the questions about RN's relationshiip in your first paragraph! That is what it all comes down to... after all this, can they love each other for what they are, and what does that mean logistically? There's a quote in one of my favourite movies, Ever After, where Drew Barrymore's character says, "A fish may love a bird, but where would they live?" and I feel that's really apt for Neha and Ranveer's conundrum.

Sona needs to learn how to trust her and Dev's relationship more, and Dev needs to be more in tune to those things that trigger Sona's insecurity. Maybe they met by chance, and that was sheer luck, but what they have now, they have really fought for together, and I don't think either of them doubts the value of their union. It's not just love that is holding them together... it's all the support and acceptance they fought for on all fronts!

I like this Ishwari! She is always at her best when someone really needs her, and that is why we see her at her worst when Dev is happy with Sona. I'm glad she has woken up to responsibilities that still need her maternal skills... they will give her purpose, Neha emotional security and Dev, a pass to live in the present without guilt!

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