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Posted: 8 years ago
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No don't bother. White Knight Complex is not in dictionary. This is a term I had invented for my husband back when we started dating which I still use to describe him.

Can't believe I am using the same term to describe a fictional character today.

Anyhoo... For the people who are confused what White Knight Complex means, well, I use the term for the men in my life (That would be pretty much every man in my husband's family) who believes it is their life's purpose to rescue damsels in distress (that would be the women they have in their life), regardless whether they really want to be rescued or not.

For example: Someone hurts my feelings and I am upset. My husband comes home and sees me eating ice cream out of the carton. He asks me what happened. I tell him what happened expecting a hug or at the very least telling me I am right and they are wrong.

His response? First he'd play devil's advocate where he will point out all scenario where I might have misjudged or misunderstood the situation. When he sees that I am getting mad, he will change his strategy and a step by step strategy worthy of winning World War III will be presented to me so that I can crush that person who hurt me followed by offer of him to "fix" the problem himself.

My frustrated response as usual, "No no. I don't want your help to fight my battles. I can take care of my own problems on my own. Thank you very much. I just need you to support me and hug me. (Finally giving all the hints what he is supposed to do)

My husband's response (awkward hug and totally disinterested now that he no longer gets to rescue me and be my brave Knight): Why don't you call your girlfriends, honey. That's why they are there for.

Aaarrrggghhh... If he doesn't get to fight my battles, he doesn't know what to do. And believe it or not, most men don't know what to do if you don't let them "fix" your problems.

See Dev also has this complex. I don't blame him. He grew up around women who always needed him to solve their problems. So he does not know how to deal with a strong woman.

Today, very sweetly, he tried to protect Sonakshi and in the meanwhile inflicted so much pain and guilt on himself that he is not being able to be happy with that burden and as a result he is in a situation where he can't show his pain and swallow his guilt white it's stuck in his throat crushing his windpipe.

Dev, honey, your heart is in the right place. But regardless of your name, you are human too. So allow yourself human level of tolerance.

You see Truth and Lie have a very strange characteristic.

Even the most innocent lie gets harder to confess and forgive with time but even the harshest truth gets smaller and insignificant with time.

So if you had chosen truth, initially your road would have been complicated. But you could make both Sonakshi and your mom understand that if you don't marry her, there's zero percent chance of a baby because whether she is with you or not, you will never marry anyone else. But with Sonakshi, at least there's 7% chance, not to mention there's option for surrogacy. (Trust me, even the dumbest person knows 7% is better than 0%).

Eventually with time, no one would remember whether you had a baby through voodoo rituals, through surrogates or through natural process. (Also you should have insisted on second opinion. Aisa na ho ki itna self-inflicted pain sab bekar jaye).

But you chose lie thinking either Sona or your mom will block your marriage. But darling, the marriage that started with such a big lie, what foundation it will stand on when this lie is revealed? Lie by omissions are still lies. What will stop your mother or Sonakshi to insist on divorce then and how would you heal the broken trust which she has again placed on you?

Remember I once wrote a post, Honesty is the only policy? Yeah, that was not a joke.

Ishwari, I have no anger on you today. We are all product of our upbringing and you were brought up by female Hitler.

Yesterday you said that you learned more things from your aunt than your mother? I pity you, big time. Your childhood must have been a nightmare which you are now inflicting on your children.

By the way, aunty ji. Where were you when Ishwari was struggling with her children?

Even better, where were you at Neha's wedding?

Aapko aane ke liye yehi time mila tha? Why don't you take a quick trip back to whatever century you time travelled from?

Mamaji, you are such a level headed person. Sometimes I wonder if you were adopted. Then I see Dev's potential and think may be not. The gene might have skipped a few people.

Elena and Dada, you guys are amazing. The bond you have with Sona would be needed when she gets the double shock of her life - 1. She can't carry a baby and 2. Her husband knew and hid this from her.

I hope Ishwari does not think Sona also knew and hid it from her. Dev, if that happens, please speak the truth about whose decision it was to lie. No more vague terms then.

And lastly CVs, please keep showing Sona's family even after marriage. I honestly need breath of fresh happy family air after long exposure of crazy family stink...




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Posted: 8 years ago
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Everything is fair n great what you wrote.. except hiding the truth.. (my POV)
See Sona is undoubtedly a strong woman.. but she is a woman.. who has a lot of dreams too.. and he has heard n lived with it...
a few steps more, and she is living her dream which he almost shattered without thinking for a sec..
Allow him to care for her, allow him to shower her the happiness she has been wishing for so long...

Anyways, as he said, this truth cannot be hidden.. am hopeful, this time he would try his best to be mature than the breakup time... giving him that benefit of doubt...

I do not want to see sad Sona face.. am so happy seeing her happy..n am sure dulhan will make our dulha also happy...

Why am so strongly saying is.. am a woman.. n childless until now.. has been 9yrs +
After i have heard the truth a lot of times.. it doesnt gone down so well for me.. and not only that..
7% is a very small percentage.. dear when it comes to infertility...

I do believe in miracle.. and I would be hopeful too.. but u know what majorly.. i stay depressed n sad.. and it doesnt help the little chance of conceiving.. mainly coz I do not have any support..
am glad Dev unknowingly is helping on this part...

Egg n sperm should be happy.. want Dev to be positive too.. so that with medical assistance Sona conceives and delivers a healthy baby.. Tiny Obodhro or Choti Sona...


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Posted: 8 years ago
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I also thought that the new character is Ishwari's aunt and should be called Bua Nani and not Bua Dadi by her kids but it turns out that she is the bua of her late husband and thus her bua in law. I remember Ishwari saying that she has learnt to cook from this aunt and not her own mother in the last episode but they cleared it today.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@tiao hugs for your white knight post
I had one at my home too..though over the years I have trained him to be a pale gray version😉

This whole premise of if you are in love first protect them is a beautiful thing but sometimes all you need to do is be there for them when they break down and hiding the truth especially when it affects the both of you is certainly a no no. A relationship it is not only one person who should always be strong in this case Dev could have been the strength to Sona for this devastating news but no that is way too realistical let us go the dramatic route so that the pre nup and this news can all come together for a juicy ride!. I am still at loss to why this sensitive topic of infertility is even needed here other than to up the Drama ante😡

I pray that the Bose family still remain for the Dixits are giving me very bad vibes
Edited by gemini54 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sorry to hear about your experience. In our society, a successful marriage between two people are defined by children. But in my humble opinion, a successful marriage between two people are defined by their love for each other, mutual understanding and respect.

Next year my husband and I would be married for 5 years. We still have not tried for baby. My mom practically has jealousy attack followed by sulking for days every time her friends get grand kids out of their children. There's no hint subtle or strong that she hasn't already given to me including knitting oodles of baby sweaters, buying baby stuffs and making promises of free baby sitting service. I am an only child by the way. So pretty much her only hope.

But my husband and I are happy. We are each other's best friend and love to spend time with each other. We go travelling, day trips etc. When or if we have baby, he/she will be the icing on the cake. But our marriage is already a pretty delicious cake on its own.

As my husband says, we are complete within ourselves. If we add into the family, we will be expanding our love to include that person but even if our love just cocoon us, that's more than enough.

That's why I wrote what I wrote. But of course, it is a big pain. However if a wound is kept closed, it will never heal. It's more painful to slowly peel away a band aid than yanking it away in one shot, immediately followed by balm of love and tenderness. Hope Dev comes clean immediately after marriage. The longer he waits, the harder it will get for Sona to forgive.

Originally posted by: sajinifaby

Everything is fair n great what you wrote.. except hiding the truth.. (my POV)

See Sona is undoubtedly a strong woman.. but she is a woman.. who has a lot of dreams too.. and he has heard n lived with it...
a few steps more, and she is living her dream which he almost shattered without thinking for a sec..
Allow him to care for her, allow him to shower her the happiness she has been wishing for so long...

Anyways, as he said, this truth cannot be hidden.. am hopeful, this time he would try his best to be mature than the breakup time... giving him that benefit of doubt...

I do not want to see sad Sona face.. am so happy seeing her happy..n am sure dulhan will make our dulha also happy...

Why am so strongly saying is.. am a woman.. n childless until now.. has been 9yrs +
After i have heard the truth a lot of times.. it doesnt gone down so well for me.. and not only that..
7% is a very small percentage.. dear when it comes to infertility...

I do believe in miracle.. and I would be hopeful too.. but u know what majorly.. i stay depressed n sad.. and it doesnt help the little chance of conceiving.. mainly coz I do not have any support..
am glad Dev unknowingly is helping on this part...

Egg n sperm should be happy.. want Dev to be positive too.. so that with medical assistance Sona conceives and delivers a healthy baby.. Tiny Obodhro or Choti Sona...


Edited by tia.o - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Whoever she is, she is a giant pain in you know where. And to think Ishwari spent enough time with her to learn something. No longer she is obsessed with cooking with Dadi Bua being her teacher.

Originally posted by: baijubavra

I also thought that the new character is Ishwari's aunt and should be called Bua Nani and not Bua Dadi by her kids but it turns out that she is the bua of her late husband and thus her bua in law. I remember Ishwari saying that she has learnt to cook from this aunt and not her own mother in the last episode but they cleared it today.

Edited by tia.o - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Ha ha... Then we know how to handle our men, don't we? 😉

Yes, this infertility track felt very abrupt. It was not explained why she was having pain suddenly. If this is a childhood condition, then she should have been suffering from tummy pain from childhood or something has gone wrong now.

The first scenario is not possible because she'd have been to doctor and found out about it by now. No one suffers pain unnecessary for that long without going to the doctor.

In the second scenario, she needs treatment and the longer this is hidden the more complication will arise. So Dev should come clean asap and trust in their love and his support to get Sona through this tough time.

CVs to drama ke liye kuch bhi karegi!!!



Originally posted by: gemini54

@tiao hugs for your white knight post

I had one at my home too..though over the years I have trained him to be a pale gray version😉

This whole premise of if you are in love first protect them is a beautiful thing but sometimes all you need to do is be there for them when they break down and hiding the truth especially when it affects the both of you is certainly a no no. A relationship it is not only one person who should always be strong in this case Dev could have been the strength to Sona for this devastating news but no that is way too realistical let us go the dramatic route so that the pre nup and this news can all come together for a juicy ride!. I am still at loss to why this sensitive topic of infertility is even needed here other than to up the Drama ante😡

I pray that the Bose family still remain for the Dixits are giving me very bad vibes

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thanks for your understanding.
But in your case, you feel complete with each other.. and am glad it is so..!
My life is a mix of our show... and i have almost all the issues that is touched in the show.. so for me.. it is not so great to hear so..

I too believe in the fact that happiness is not defined by kids.. but it is my desire to have one... while i was young only... and mayb me n husband are yet to find a shore... In laws and other probs.. had messed our lives so much.. then my medical conditions.. and the Dev-ish nature in my husband.. has made it all bleak...

Anyways, lets hope Dev is able to complete Sona.. and fight for her with his mother.. who is his all in all... n the magical moment when they are blessed with a child.. hope that child will not have to go thru all these blindly followed rituals.. which should change with moving times...

Originally posted by: tia.o

Sorry to hear about your experience. In our society, a successful marriage between two people are defined by children. But in my humble opinion, a successful marriage between two people are defined by their love for each other, mutual understanding and respect.

Next year my husband and I would be married for 5 years. We still have not tried for baby. My mom practically has jealousy attack followed by sulking for days every time her friends get grand kids out of their children. There's no hint subtle or strong that she hasn't already given to me including knitting oodles of baby sweaters, buying baby stuffs and making promises of free baby sitting service. I am an only child by the way. So pretty much her only hope.

But my husband and I are happy. We are each other's best friend and love to spend time with each other. We go travelling, day trips etc. When or if we have baby, he/she will be the icing on the cake. But our marriage is already a pretty delicious cake on its own.

As my husband says, we are complete within ourselves. If we add into the family, we will be expanding our love to include that person but even if our love just cocoon us, that's more than enough.

That's why I wrote what I wrote. But of course, it is a big pain. However if a wound is kept closed, it will never heal. It's more painful to slowly peel away a band aid than yanking it away in one shot, immediately followed by balm of love and tenderness. Hope Dev comes clean immediately after marriage. The longer he waits, the harder it will get for Sona to forgive.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

Even the most innocent lie gets harder to confess and forgive with time but even the harshest truth gets smaller and insignificant with time.

@bold :So true.
Better to share the truth asap and deal with it together than postpone it and risk causing even more pain to Sona and make her trust waver.Also why live in guilt and suffer the pain when you can be each other's support systems, lessen each other's pain and sail through the difficulties together.Of course he would need to be her strength when she can't be strong herself, but he will be in a far better position to help her than he can when he is hiding the truth.

Cvs have a lot of matter for drama now:
1. Bua with rigid age old beliefs and potential to cause a lot of drama- Check
2. Cultural differences drama(Food/Dress/Fish given(segments))- Check
3. Unresolved Pre-nup issue with lots of drama potential- Check
4. Infertility hidden with lots of drama potential- Check

One can only handle so much drama and negativity if it accompanied by a greater degree of positivity(Hopefully Bose family and Dev- Sona would be able to provide that to us)
Edited by rose4ever - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Aww... Hugs for you hun... Yes, I also hope Dev and Sona find their own piece of heaven in their marriage and the same I wish for you as well...

Originally posted by: sajinifaby

Thanks for your understanding.
But in your case, you feel complete with each other.. and am glad it is so..!
My life is a mix of our show... and i have almost all the issues that is touched in the show.. so for me.. it is not so great to hear so..

I too believe in the fact that happiness is not defined by kids.. but it is my desire to have one... while i was young only... and mayb me n husband are yet to find a shore... In laws and other probs.. had messed our lives so much.. then my medical conditions.. and the Dev-ish nature in my husband.. has made it all bleak...

Anyways, lets hope Dev is able to complete Sona.. and fight for her with his mother.. who is his all in all... n the magical moment when they are blessed with a child.. hope that child will not have to go thru all these blindly followed rituals.. which should change with moving times...

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