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Posted: 8 years ago
#81
Mangala has seen nimboli's life in jhalra when she was kundan's wife and akhi-harki's daughter-in-law.


Now mangala will see her life as her daughter.

If mangala is a manipulator, then what is anandi?

How many lies did anandi tell her children? She lied to shivam that mangala and nimboli were guests. When shivam fought with nimboli over nimboli's locket, she again cooked up a story.

What is all this called? The truth and only truth ?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hiding a truth for the benefit of her kids (as she believes and doctor told her) and lying manipulating, planning , plotting to satisfy ones own selfish need are two complete  different thing.

As per the story Anandi is hiding the truth as doctor has adviced her and as Mangala has threatened her several times (I will go by the story). She is doing for her daughter's best interest.

But what Mangala is doing?
The way she woke up the girl and went off is to much. She was so bechari in Jhalra and look at her now.

In BH she was jumping every now and then. But what happened when Kundan caught N,? If Pushkar was not there K could have harmed N


Edited by hisusmita - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#83
Mangala has lived among monsters. She mastered a skill to survive and to live her life the way she wanted without making a big issue of it or offending anyone.
What you call manipulating, I call it a skill to get your point across.

Manipulation is what dadisa did to get anandi married to shiv. 

But people never had any problem with the old woman... Dadisa even killed bhago in the bargain. She killed jamuna for her desire to have a grandson.

What mangala is doing is out of ignorance. She does not know any other way.




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Posted: 8 years ago
#84
Both Anandi and mangala are selfish as far as Nimboli is concerned. Even if nimboli was left in BH she will not be given her identity - Anandi may take eternity to have some courage to face what she did back then and tell the truth, Shivam will be rude with Nimboli and make her feel miserable and Anandi and Anant will continue to do numerous experiments on Nimboli. For Nimboli it is like ek taraf kuan aur doosari taraf khai. In Jhalra, she knows where she belongs - but no riches, threat of Kundan (but now she has three people who will look after her and save her from Kundan), less opportunity for education etc. and in Bh - she will have no identity, mental torture by Shivam and maybe Abhi also, rich household, better school etc. Nobody cares for Nimboli and nobody asked her what she wants. 
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Posted: 8 years ago
#85
Jhalra will not be as bad for Nimboli as it used to be - but still she should know the truth - and unfortunately - her weak and selfish mother will not tell her - she hides her wrongdoings under garb of helping others. When she has not even told DS or shakhers what happened there - it is not expected that she will ever tell Nimboli or Shivam. 
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Posted: 8 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: Shinya

Mangala has lived among monsters. She mastered a skill to survive and to live her life the way she wanted without making a big issue of it or offending anyone.

What you call manipulating, I call it a skill to get your point across.

Manipulation is what dadisa did to get anandi married to shiv. 

But people never had any problem with the old woman... Dadisa even killed bhago in the bargain. She killed jamuna for her desire to have a grandson.

What mangala is doing is out of ignorance. She does not know any other way.






Which skill you are talking about? I can still ignore the Devi act which is okay considering her situation among the monsters, though that too shows one trait of her character which has flourished now😃

But are you sure what Mangala is doing is out of ignorance?

This is laughable Shinya.

The lady very systematic way poisoned the girl's mind against her mother.

She gave her fear of abandonment by bringing a fake mother so that the girl can cling to her instead of going to her mother.

She poisoned the little boy's mind and forced him to go against his own sister and hate her.

She blackmailed her mother saying that I will help you and you should not disclose anything and doing exactly opposite thing by using her weakness and vulnerable state. She knows A is scared of loosing her daughter.

The way she made the girl woke up in the morning and pretended  to go away from BH says a lot.

Every now and then she is crying in front of Devima that I am doing wrong (out of ignorance) and again doing the same wrong thing and hurting as well as harming the kid who she claims as her daughter.

People criticized the old woman enough times but now she has changed a lot, same is the case with Jagya


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Posted: 8 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: SPuja

Jhalra will not be as bad for Nimboli as it used to be - but still she should know the truth - and unfortunately - her weak and selfish mother will not tell her - she hides her wrongdoings under garb of helping others. When she has not even told DS or shakhers what happened there - it is not expected that she will ever tell Nimboli or Shivam. 



How do you know how much DS and Shekhars  know ? Did CVs aired any special version where they showed how much they know and how much they dont?
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Posted: 8 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: hisusmita



How do you know how much DS and Shekhars  know ? Did CVs aired any special version where they showed how much they know and how much they dont?


It is simple - everyone is saying that she lost her daughter while saving another child - no one knows that it has nothing to do with saving another child. She was doing nothing - but watching fight between Akheraj's men and police - and that too - when police specifically asked her to move away because she has a small child with her. Akheraj was going to get Pooja - but Pooja's mother took her to safety - then he saw Anandi with her daughter and kidnapped that daughter. 

Since nobody was present there - they know as much as Anandi told them. And since all are saying that she lost her daughter while saving another child - so that is what Anandi might have told them.
Edited by SPuja - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#89

Originally posted by: hisusmita

Not at all disappointed with Mangala's answer . Very much expected from a manipulator and liar. She is at her best of being lair, double faced, manipulator , blackmailer.

She is talking about Parivar. But it is her family, not Nimboli's. She has seen what kind of life N can get. But just because of her selfishness, just because only she want to possess N , she is depriving the girl of everything, be it a healthy environment, be it her studies. bhad me jaye uski future but chori mere sath hona chahiye.

She is talking about family and chori, it is that same selfish woman who just to possess N brought a fake mother and the poor child became so insecure of abandonment that now she is not getting any option

Had she told the truth to N and still N would have chosen her I would have agreed.

But inspite of that N was shown questioning herself chokhi chudail and Badi nanisa are also family then why she cant live with them.

Poor fella felt so bad seeing her face when
she saw Kundan beating Pushkar and Kamli.

@Blue - Mangala is being manipulative scheming cunning self ðŸ˜†
 
Mangala told truth?
Since when did Jhalra parivar become the child's family?
Didn't Harki and Akheraj tell the child enough no of times that she is naukarani and not part of parivar?
If Jhalara family becomes the child's parivar just because Mangala says so then N was right in questioning herself why can't she consider herself as part of CC's parivar because of what CC and Badinanisa told her?
How will Mangala answer this question?

This great lady is telling the child that they have come back to be their family and home after depriving the child of her own family by birth and her own home.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#90
BH people are Nimboli's own family by birth ðŸ˜² ? When even Shivam is not living with his own family - Nimboli knowing her own family by birth is a far cry. Jhalra is Nimboli's family because Mangala thinks Nimboli is her daughter - for her it is as simple as that. Selfish - yes - but so is Anandi. No one will think for Nimboli.