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Posted: 9 years ago
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Kanak. Ramayana is so close to my heart.I started to watch this show just because it was believed Ramayana adaptation which isn't. I'm not against the people who liking this show. That's why I'm not commenting/replying on any other threads. But you see this show adapted Ramayana characters. as you said, some people may watching this show to know Original epic without knowing CVS distorting original facts.as Ramayana followers,we want to give original truth. is it wrong? I'm not SPK,JJH,etc.., because people do know those show makeovers protagonist as top. but this show must be mythological not to glorify their favorite character.or else do CVS want to glorify Sita? no problem. if they accept that they want to show Sita character instead of Ramayana, I will accept it. if they agree they are showing cooked up story on Ramayana characters instead of Ramayana, I promise there will not be anymore post of mine in this forum.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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CV could have just put it a disclaimer saying it is a fictional take on Ramayana nothing from the 300 of versions.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The only thing that annoyed me was the sugar-coating of the ancient tradition of horse-sacrifice. I understand the sentiment behind the sequence but is it really necessary to sugar-coat our past mistakes? isn't it better to learn from the past instead of trying to hide it or change it? other than that the show seems fine to me 👍🏼
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Posted: 9 years ago
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well, me to at first, then i realised they used it to show a similarity of thaughts bitween ram and sita.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..


I can understand how kids of today's generation may find sanskrit-based language "boring" as you say, but at the same time, what do you want mythological shows to teach? Do you want them to teach kids what actually happened, how the people back then actually spoke, how the culture back then actually was, or do you want a fake story with watered down language with lots of graphics and technology just so kids today can find it "more interesting"? What is more important? Learning the true culture of those days, or learning modern culture through the guise of Ramayan? Because what this serial is showing has nothing to do with how our culture was back then. The costumes, language and behavior of the characters are all too modern, so what culture is your son learning through this show?

Like your son, I too went to Catholic schools all my life, but that did not prevent me from learning my culture, and I live in the US! My parents spoke in our language only at home, and everyday after school they worked hard to teach my sister and me about our culture. We grew up in a very traditional environment and were exposed to our puranic texts from a very young age. So I have a good understanding of both the modern and our traditional culture. Just because kids go to Catholic schools or english medium schools doesn't mean they'll lose their Indian culture, if parents take care to maintain a traditional environment at home. But some parents (not you, I'm speaking in generic terms) maintain a very modern atmosphere at home and yet expect their kids to grow up traditionally. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. If you want your kids to grow up traditionally, you should be traditional too, and you shouldn't base your kids' knowledge off television shows. Teach them Ramayan and Mahabharat through texts, not shows, and when they grow up, they will have knowledge to determine what is accurate and what is a distortion themselves.



I dont know to what extend your school or parents helped you with culture...but seems to me that you are talking about way back...have you seen the situation now? People on the road or at your home door keep ringing saying its happening and you got to be with our god only he can save you...
even i have attened catholic school...but my son's school has taped all mediums from spiritual weeks and movies ...etc...All this changes their mind...not only that ...they even give kids number of god incase your parents dont behave good with you...

First of all thank you very much for letting me know how your parents helped you to keep up with the culture.
For me getting him ideas about the culture and richness and its essence is what firstly necessary. My house we r very spiritual and follow each and every thing. But then staying in a country where you cant even find a temple or ppl who follow same customs makes it difficult to groom your child that way.
Like we are discussing here about the authenticity of ramayan in this new series ...same way i want him to slowly and steadily know about the culture and then he on his own should find literatures and read them and understand . Thats how he would grow his interst in culture ...thats what i feel.moreover i dont want to pesture him with it ...or else he would question the roots of it...


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: jayvenk

Kanak u seen to be so angry about what. That we are discussing the original Ramayana. So pointing out that the serial is not following or distorting the original is wrong?

U r the one bashing now
And remember unless there are critics there won't be any shows.
Enjoying a show is one thing. Accepting that is what written in the epics, that is a whole different thing.



I am not angry but then the topic of this forum was this program is showing lies etc...but then ppl started discussing ramayan itself ...thats when i didnt like this discussion...as i said we cannot question the authencity of our very epic ...but we can always question any medium showing us that epic...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: iDea-yeS-viruS

Kanak. Ramayana is so close to my heart.I started to watch this show just because it was believed Ramayana adaptation which isn't. I'm not against the people who liking this show. That's why I'm not commenting/replying on any other threads. But you see this show adapted Ramayana characters. as you said, some people may watching this show to know Original epic without knowing CVS distorting original facts.as Ramayana followers,we want to give original truth. is it wrong? I'm not SPK,JJH,etc.., because people do know those show makeovers protagonist as top. but this show must be mythological not to glorify their favorite character.or else do CVS want to glorify Sita? no problem. if they accept that they want to show Sita character instead of Ramayana, I will accept it. if they agree they are showing cooked up story on Ramayana characters instead of Ramayana, I promise there will not be anymore post of mine in this forum.



For sure they are not cooking up story...they are also using some source ...and if u check internet you would find a range of different stories...if you rem ramanand sagar's ramayan use to have that initial starting message that his program has stories from valmiki's ramayan and some other sources etc...(i guess now i know ) cvs should put forth their source for ppl to study or scrutinize...(what say?)...


And pls dont promise on foolish things...discuss and bash thats what this forum is all about...one day may be u find something good put that too...ppl like us who like this program would like to hear it from you...Chill out...i think my discussions has made many ppl to write ...😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: kanak123



For sure they are not cooking up story...they are also using some source ...and if u check internet you would find a range of different stories...if you rem ramanand sagar's ramayan use to have that initial starting message that his program has stories from valmiki's ramayan and some other sources etc...(i guess now i know ) cvs should put forth their source for ppl to study or scrutinize...(what say?)...


And pls dont promise on foolish things...discuss and bash thats what this forum is all about...one day may be u find something good put that too...ppl like us who like this program would like to hear it from you...Chill out...i think my discussions has made many ppl to write ...😳

I already told this at numerous times. Valmiki Ramayana is truth and epic. other versions are just literatures work not epic.I just wanted to read other versions for how those deviated from Ramayana not for morals. and don't worry about my promise. because I am sure this show not gonna give any new morals which Ramayana couldn't.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: iDea-yeS-viruS

I already told this at numerous times. Valmiki Ramayana is truth and epic. other versions are just literatures work not epic.I just wanted to read other versions for how those deviated from Ramayana not for morals. and don't worry about my promise. because I am sure this show not gonna give any new morals which Ramayana couldn't.


Exactly, Ramayan as an epic is a storehouse of virtue and morals. No other adaptation or work of fiction can teach us anything that is not already mentioned in the original epic. Valmiki was a great man, who was originally a robber but became a divine sage through Ram naam. Such was the magic of his Ramayana, which he wrote with divine drishti by seeing everything as it happened. His is the original work, and everything that was written afterwards is secondary in importance.

I'm not saying all other versions are wrong or bad, just that we cannot compare them to Valmiki. Some of the background stories in other versions may be true, we never know, but as an overall epic, none of them have the same magic as Valmiki Ramayan. After Valmiki, I have a special corner for Tulsidas' Ramcharitmanas, because it is believed to be the word of Hanuman and there is so much divinity in the epic that cannot but touch our heart.
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