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Posted: 10 years ago
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Seriously,some people keep telling "Agni Pariksha"."Ram asked sita to give agni pariksha."
This is one of hilarious thing i heard.in which ramayan claims ram asked agni pariksha.may be any one of ramayans do but valmiki ramayan never mentioned that.in fact there is no agni pariksha.it called as agni pariksha because situations opted with agni pariksha scenario. Ram didnt ask sita ti give agni pariksha.its sita decision to give her to agni.it wasnt to prove her purity but to die.due to her purity,she didn't die.then everyone witnessed her purity.but real matter is in answer for why sita wanted to die.

Everything started after vibeeshna became king.Ram told vibu,"i promised to my dad not to enter in city for next 14 years. So i cant enter in lanka.bring sita here.she must be decorated."
Everyone there was astonished with tone change.
Vibees asked sita to come as princess.but sita questioned "why i have to come like princess.i will come as i look.there is no need for decorations"but she agreed to come like princess after hearing it was ram order.

When she came to meet ram.ram made tons of accusations on her.in whole ramayan ram described kind man of words.though he degraded dasarath and kaikeyi before,he hadnt blame them.this is only place ram shows harshness in ramayan.how much harsh was. even we cant imagine that much harsh.

"I can see how you spent your life at lanka.you must be enjoyed with place facilities.you must be drunken.you must enjoyed raavans all wealth.but remember this.i didn't do this war to get you back.i did this war to clean stain on Raghu clan.i did this to prove I'm not impotent.i did this show my bravery.i dont care you anymore.you can live with whom you desires.you can go with lakshman,you can go with hanuman,you can go with vibeeshnan.i dont care the damn whom you spends with"

Everyone got shock because ram spoke those words.deeply hurten sita, "if you made hanuman to tell this at that time, I would have die at that time. There would be no need for this war and no need these deaths. I was so happy to see you but now I feels why didn't I die when raavan kidnapped me.I have no interest to live.lakshman,please make fire.I've to die"
Everyone got hell shock after hearing this.then they looked at ram for response.height of all shocks, even after sita said she'll die,there isn't single emotion from ram face. He stood like statue of hard face.
Lakshman with teary heart made fire.many tried to stop sita but she didn't give up.finally she fell into fire.

Everyone cried and shattered much.agni didn't hurt sita.still ram stayed where he was. Finally everygods appeared in front of him.
"You are king of kings,god of gods. Please stop this. Accept sita, she is pure.end this decision"

"I'm a son of dasarath,how can you consider me as god"

"You are avatar of lord Vishnu,sita is Lakshmi.you both born for earths well wishes.please unite with sita.she is pure"

Then only ram gets sita out of fire.
"I didn't doubt sita at any moment. a king must have to keep His family as clean.I don't have give any chance to give gossiping. That's why I didn't stop sita. I don't leave sita.I have trust on her.leaving sita is like a self respected man leaving his pride."

I don't think next scenario will tougher than this.after these harsh words, sita lived with ram.then will you mean sita as characterless woman. it isn't Kali yuga. Its treta.sita understood ram plight.that's why she understood Ram's harsh words aren't from heart.

Same sita accused ram as impotent.why didn't she accuse/question ram after abandon her.first ram has no point that's why sita accused. This time ram has responsibilities, that's why sita understood his decision.
I didn't see anywhere someone questioning like why didn't sita question about ram for her rights.if sita did,it considered as sacrifice and responsibility as queen but ram only questioned about husband materialness.




Yes.he didn't disclose even after knowing luv,khush ate his children(I also know kush isn't biological son.he made out of grass.that's why his name is khush.but commonly mentioning luv kush as brothers and children of Ram air sita )again,he wasn't father alone.he was king that's why he didn't accept them till valmiki assurance.if he could accept them,then he wouldn't have to abandon sita.as a king he left sita,that's why he didn't accept them.he stood on his decision.

Raja dharma is to take care of people.kings will get one fourth power sages achieved in his period.same time he gonna get one fourth curse for culprits crimes.any mistake can be justifiable if it does for people well wish.




For kind info,ram could've marry any other princess without leaving sita.no one has rights to question him.ex:his father.

Rajadharma allows a king to do many marriages.at his time,ram was only king has one marital. If anyone mentioning bharathlakshman,please remember I'm talking about kings.

No one gonna mention this,no one gonna question this. name of rajadharma he left his wife,then why can't he remarry.


In case,he left kingdom for sita.there would be possibility for calling him as JKG.he wasn't simple man. He was king of raghu clan.history would tell raghu clan's king ram left kingdom for his lust over his wife.no one gonna think about this.people would have gossip this.sita is extremely hot. That's why ram and raavan both were behind her.

But ram decision helped to torn his marital life.Siddhartha left his wife and child for blessings and wisdom.none questioning his marital but respects as Buddha.but ram only torning.

It isn't new. Many questioning about his marital,some questioning about vaali,some questioning some other blah.I feel this because many can't accept he considered as Maryada Puroshottama.

But one who questions ram.,doesn't see alternative he has.dasarath never ordered ram to go to forest.but he did to save raghu clans image.he could have return to ayodhya when barath called him back.but he didn't.after sita captured,he could have seek help from barath,but he didn't. After sugreeva became king,he sent lakshman at kishkinta to bring him for war because he took vow that he won't enter at city for next 14 years.he didn't have to show mercy for raavan.but he did.he could have dump sita after his victory.he showed his potential and he has rights on throne.no one gonna question his remarriages bec he gonna king .he killed his blood brother lakshman to save his word.lakshman didn't question him how can he kill his loyal brother.

Still people praising sita for her decisions but degrading ram actions.finally sita is woman of fate.she went thru to path of fate.ram is man of decisions.every time he turned between things.he took his decisions and kept till end.but one thing is sure.love on each other made them to achieve many things.
Love on ram only made sita to remain pure though raavan scared her in many ways.love on ram only made sita take care on twins.same here,love on sita only made ram to best human.that's why Ram aur Sita are ideal couple.I can't appreciate sita alone.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@ suseesuez : I am not at all disputing on what all Lord SriRam did claiming as his Rajdharma. All I am asking is was it the responsibility of the Raja to safeguard the interest of a female who was full term pregnant. Which Raj Dharma says that a Raja has to throw out a lady unattended?
In those days, even a prostitute was given her due respect and she had a place. In such case why did he fail as a Raja?
I know he had his own reasons to send Sita out as the kids were to be born in the Ashram and not in the royal palace and also that Godess Lakshmi's purpose to come to the earth was fulfilled and she was due to return to her place.
Why do we blame Kaikeyi for the death of King Dasharat and also for sending Ram Sita for 14 years vanvas? Even she was advised act adamant to send out Ram away from Ayodya as King Dasharath's death was approaching and he had curse from Sravan Kumar's parents that even his kids should away from him during his death and he should lament for them. Hence she was asked by sage Vashist to use the opportunity of her unclaimed boons and ensure that none of King Dasharath's kids were around during his death. Bharth & Shathrugn were gone to their grand parents place and were not expected to return soon and she had to ensure that Ram & Lakshman to go away. But still we blame kaikeyi for Sriram's vanavas.
If we praise Sriram for his duty towards Rajdharma was the reason for Abandoning Sita, then we should praise Suraj for his duty towards parents and family for doing the same with Sandya.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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[deejagi]@ suseesuez : I am not at all disputing on what all Lord SriRam did claiming as his Rajdharma. All I am asking is was it the responsibility of the Raja to safeguard the interest of a female who was full term pregnant. Which Raj Dharma says that a Raja has to throw out a lady unattended?
In those days, even a prostitute was given her due respect and she had a place. In such case why did he fail as a Raja?
I know he had his own reasons to send Sita out as the kids were to be born in the Ashram and not in the royal palace and also that Godess Lakshmi's purpose to come to the earth was fulfilled and she was due to return to her place.
Why do we blame Kaikeyi for the death of King Dasharat and also for sending Ram Sita for 14 years vanvas? Even she was advised act adamant to send out Ram away from Ayodya as King Dasharath's death was approaching and he had curse from Sravan Kumar's parents that even his kids should away from him during his death and he should lament for them. Hence she was asked by sage Vashist to use the opportunity of her unclaimed boons and ensure that none of King Dasharath's kids were around during his death. Bharth & Shathrugn were gone to their grand parents place and were not expected to return soon and she had to ensure that Ram & Lakshman to go away. But still we blame kaikeyi for Sriram's vanavas.
If we praise Sriram for his duty towards Rajdharma was the reason for Abandoning Sita, then we should praise Suraj for his duty towards parents and family for doing the same with Sandya.
I could not keep quiet any longer - it is your opinion of Lord Rama but please do not put Lord Ram down because of mere daily soap - since there is this subject, let me ask this question? Did Kaikeyi ever give Sita 15 day test? Papad incident? drugged her? forced her to bear children? we should always compare apples to apples - not apples to oranges - what ever Lord Rama did is for 'Lok Kalyan' we can not understand that - we have to go to Himalayas to meditate for several lifes to understand him - Suraj is big time 'MAMA's BOY' - he was and is and always will be a 'MAMA's BOY' I will accept his behavior if his parents are like king Dasaradh and Kaikeyi even though she did what she did
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

@ <font color="#0066cc" size="2">suseesuez</font> : I am not at all disputing on what all Lord SriRam did claiming as his Rajdharma. All I am asking is was it the responsibility of the Raja to safeguard the interest of a female who was full term pregnant. Which Raj Dharma says that a Raja has to throw out a lady unattended?

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<div>In those days, even a prostitute was given her due respect and she had a place. In such case why did he fail as a Raja?


I know he had his own reasons to send Sita out as the kids were to be born in the Ashram and not in the royal palace and also that Godess Lakshmi's purpose to come to the earth was fulfilled and she was due to return to her place.


Why do we blame Kaikeyi for the death of King Dasharat and also for sending Ram Sita for 14 years vanvas? Even she was advised act adamant to send out Ram away from Ayodya as King Dasharath's death was approaching and he had curse from Sravan Kumar's parents that even his kidsshould away from him during his death and he should lament for them. Hence she was asked by sage Vashist to use the opportunity of her unclaimed boons and ensure that none of King Dasharath's kids were around during his death. Bharth & Shathrugn were gone to their grand parents place and were not expected to return soon and she had to ensure that Ram & Lakshman to go away. But still we blame kaikeyi for Sriram's vanavas.


If we praise Sriram for his duty towards Rajdharma was the reason for Abandoning Sita, then we should praise Suraj for his duty towards parents and family for doing the same with Sandya.


again whole scenario is misconception.who said ram thrown sita out.if that was case,then why didn't sita question ram at palace.till she left at ashram,sita didn't know ram abandoned her at ashram.then why didn't she get doubt.real reason is sita desired to visit ashram.ram agreed to fulfill a pregnant lady desire.meanwhile ram knew about street gossiping,then he said lakshman,"even after agni pariksha, people gossiping her. So I have to leave her permanently "
Lakshman,"bro,please don't leave sita for street gossiping " "no lakshman,I'm not only husband but king too.I have to do this.your bhabi desired to live In ashram for few days.but I can't keep her forever.so PLEASE LEAVE HER AT VALMIKI ASHRAM SAFELY."thorough all traveling, sita couldn't find why lakshman was sad.after lakshman explained whole situation to sita.sita was deeply hurt.she shows her stomach to lakshman"tell to your king.he left a woman who carries his baby".lakshman bows down, "maata,what kind of curse is this.till today, I seen your legs only.why did you make me sinful"
Now only sita gives real sense"tell this to your king.I'm always well wished about him.I won't be barrier for his responsibilities in any manner.he is the only thing which my heart always thinking"after lakshman departure, she spent her life with children. So if anyone believes ram thrown sita out, that's is completely wrong. It's mutual understanding of uncomfortable circumstances.


Did I blame kaikeyi for vanvas. No,I mentioned that because dasarath didn't ask ram to do canvas.but ram did this else it would be degrade for raghu clan(raghu clan's dasarath failed to keep his promise).
If anyone can justify kaikeyi act with boon,then lemme remind you bhirigu curse only made ram to leave sita.then we can jump off arguing ram sita separation. No,I want to debate about ram action and plight.if we can consider boon or curse,then anyone can simply justify anyone's (even raavan) act as karma.there would be no sense for debating.


Who said kaikeyi wanted to get rid of lakshman. In whole situation,kaikeyi never mentioned lakshman anywhere.
Again misconception with ramayan.lakshman and satrughan were sumitra sons not kaikeyi. Bhrathan only kaikeyi son.so grandparent house is only for bharathan not for satrughan.like ram and lakshman ,bharathan and satru both were spent their lives together. that's why kaikeyi claimed bharathan for throne not satrughan.
Kaikeyi wanted to rid of ram because everyone knows his ideal ness.
At same time,dasarth wanted to give throne while barath was out.because he highly believed bharathan was only competition for ram.he himself mentioned to ram that "a high morale also won't give pride. I know bharathan is highly morality and good nature still I won't believe that he will respect you as king whole heart felt"

This zigzag afraid led into that.so full ramayan is totally different from its synopsis.


Yes. I accepted ram decision as raja dhrama.if you give any sacred notes for reference for a son can leave wife,then I'll respect suraj desicion also.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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no worries as siya k raam is coming soon... btw heard ramayan is not that much entertaining as compared to mahabharat :-) :-)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sufm

no worries as siya k raam is coming soon... btw heard ramayan is not that much entertaining as compared to mahabharat :-) :-)

synopsis wise Ramayana isn't much interested as MB.but dialogue wise no epic or literacy can touch Ramayana.Ramayan is Ramayan.nothing is equal to Ramayana.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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If we praise Sriram for his duty towards Rajdharma was the reason for Abandoning Sita, then we should praise Suraj for his duty towards parents and family for doing the same with Sandya.'

Very well said Jaya , exactly my thoughts
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Originally posted by: Sonali_11

If we praise Sriram for his duty towards Rajdharma was the reason for Abandoning Sita, then we should praise Suraj for his duty towards parents and family for doing the same with Sandya.'
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Very well said Jaya , exactly my thoughts

what kind of logic is this.Ram could've abandon sita at first time itself in name of Rajadharma. then which can make sense at first time,second time.Ram tried to balance marital and duty.when the time came,he got to choose one thing.he believed on his responsibilities. so he chosen what He felt right. in which basis you are justifying sooraj acts with Ram.Ram abandoned sita because he had no choice. if you feel suraj also had no choice,then suraj also right.don't blindly connect with Ramayana. I've seen many complaining ram abandoned sita.but none of them mentioning,what happened before and after.please explain whole scenario,repeating "ram abandoned Sita" won't justify suraj and sandya
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@sufm watch Ramayan to watch the most beautiful story ever told in Indian Mythology. I don't know what SP is gonna do, but if they do it right well what can beat these moments
When Ram takes the Shiva's bow and break it. Sita's face hearing that sound. ( I don't think another love story is written to show more magic than this moment and don't even think another can be written ever. I don't think there is a poet out there who has not written verses about this beautiful moments)
Sita giving her choodamani to Hanuman( This is treated very auspicious at my community and all. This is part of Sundara Kandam and people are asked to recite this part of Ramayana for prosperity and happiness in the household)
And who can create a character like Lakshman. My favourite character in whole Ramayana.
And if you watch the properly done " Siya Ke Ram" you will understand the so called pathetic personification of SURYA to Ram-Sita in a better manner than whatever I have written here.
Edited by shruthiravi - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Like GG said Suraj is a big time Mamma's boy. If he loved his countrymen, then he would not dump Sandy for saving fellow countrymen. He became selfish and wanted to protect his mom and wife and there he loses all privilege of comparison to Lord Ram. Lord Ram is the ultimate symbol of sacrifice. Suraj always supports his family - be it Bhabo, Chhavi, Vik, Mohit , even if he knows they have committed huge mistakes. So that way he supports his kin all the time and supports evil. There is the big difference between him and Lord Ram.
Shruthi, I have stopped watching the show since last week. I am not sure if I will come back any time soon. So disappointed with my favorite character Sandy. She committed to take care of the nation first, but definitely for her, her husband and family (means in-laws) come first, but then she should resign from IPS. The post should go to someone deserving, who thinks above family.

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