Virat war called off ?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Star plus Mahabharat CVs have rewritten important part of history today. Virat yudh was one of important chapters of Mahabharath as it was the gateway to kurukshetra. Important event like Virat yudh has been completely distorted to give equal importance to both Karn and Arjun.

One of the significance of Virat yudh has been Arjun getting the better of Karn using Smmohan Astra. This whole episode was very poorly shown and was very disappointing. To begin with, Kaurav sena was present in full might headed by Bhism, Drona, kriparchaya, Karn, Ashwathama, Duryodhan, Shakuni, and Dhushasan. Duryodhan and company knew Arjun would come out for the rescue of King Virat. It is said that Bhishm and Drona knew the intention of Durodhan for the war and didn't participate wholeheartedly and lost to Arjun. But, Karn was waiting for this duel and it was fierce battle between the two, but Arjun got the better of Karn on that day and went one zero in their head to head battle, but definitely not it was called off by Bhism.

I was always fascinated to know who was the better between Karn and Arjun and read many many articles to know, which sitll is a stalemate as to who was better as both sides have enough proof to believe the respective ones were better. Arjun is considered to be the best warrior among pandvas just because he single handledly can withstand many maharathis at a time, thereby, credited with the tag of atimaharathi (capable of fighting 24 maharathis as a time). There are two such incidents in Mahabharat where Arjun's credential of being superior to Karn was proved factually one with the direct duel with Karn in Virat and the other during Gandharva war, which was skipped by Starplus MB.

Gandharva war took place when pandavas were in van vaas. Since Duryodhan can't attack pandavas during van vas, he makes a ploy to defeat chirasena and force them to go kill pandavas, but that ploy backfires and he loses to Gandharvas who have great celestial powers. Karn was supposedly intoxicated during that war and escapes from their without knowing that duryodhan was captured. Later, Arjun and Bheem on the instructions of Yudhistir come to their cousin's rescue and it was Arjun who had effortlessly defeated chitrasen. After which, Karn is humiliated by Bhism, Drona, and Vidhur that he is just 1/4th of the might of Arjun and can't be compared to Arjun. Then, Karn pleads what he has to do to be proved his might and takes an oath to go on vijay yathra to accept Hastinapur rule by all kings and succeeds in winning against all kings in all four directions, a feat not achieved by any Maharathi... only an athimaharathi can achieve it.

So, for Arjun lovers these two incidents were big plus point to prove he was better than Karn. While Karn supporters can claim that Karn was invincible in Kurushetar war and Arjun only survived because of Lord Krishn. Karn got the better of Arjun in Kurushetar and leveled the scores one all and Krishna knew Karn was better than Arjun and that was the reason of asking not to use naagastra twice on Arjun and Krishna himself saved from Karn's
Vaishnavastra. Just the way Karn had no answer for Smmohan astra, Arjun had no answer to Vaishnavastra. Karn was quite capable of killing all 5 pandavas alone, but he does get defeated by Arjun in the only one encounter they had outiside Kurushetar. So, you really can't conclude who were superior. It is just like a tennis match... you win one day and lose the other.

So, the bottomline is Virat yudh was fought and won by Arjun and not as shown yesterday. I guess it was shown to make karn and arjun on par. But let's concede and give credit where it is due that during Virat war, Arjun was invincible and unconquerable. He got the better of everyone and made them unconscious with smmohan astra. I guess it is time the makers understand that history shouldn't be tweaked for our convenience. Arjun single handedly defeated everyone period.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Aactully this forum members always blam Arjun. Cvs is fav is Arjun but this was totally wrong. Cvs is fav is onlu Karn...just coz karn they dont show...
-karn in draupad war.( coz karn k hote hue bhi duri war nhi jeet paya)
- they dont show Arjun -karn face off in draupadi ;Swayamwar reason Arjun breaks Karn dhanush.
- Draupadi VH k main reason ko side line kar diya( i belive duri n karn dono hi draupdi ko strip karna chate thi)
- they skip Gandharvas attack reason same Karn.
(How is its possible ki karn ki hote hue Arjun aur bheem ko aana pada Duri ko bachane k liye)
N now virata war result sab k samne.
Poor Arjun us ki achivements ki dhajiya udd rahi aur k character ko maintain rakhne k liye.
Edited by -abhi-pundir- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -abhi-pundir-

Aactully this forum members always blam Arjun. Cvs is fav is Arjun but this was totally wrong. Cvs is fav is onlu Karn...just coz karn they dont show...
-karn in draupad war.( coz karn k hote hue bhi duri war nhi jeet paya)
- they dont show Arjun -karn face off in draupadi ;Swayamwar reason Arjun breaks Karn dhanush.
- Draupadi VH k main reason ko side line kar diya( i belive duri n karn dono hi draupdi ko strip karna chate thi)
- they skip Gandharvas attack reason same Karn.
(How is its possible ki karn ki hote hue Arjun aur bheem ko aana pada Duri ko bachane k liye)
N now virata war result sab k samne.
Poor Arjun us ki achivements ki dhajiya udd rahi aur k character ko maintain rakhne k liye.



Which bow did Arjuna break?, Karna matched Arjuna shot to shot in Draupadi's swayamvar, After Karna realized that no ordinary Brahmin can fight with him when he is angry, he questioned the Brahmin.

..."then Karna and Arjuna, both foremost of victorious warriors, desirous of vanquishing each other, fought madly on. And such was the lightness of hand they both displayed that (each enveloped by the other's shower of arrows) they both became invisible (unto the spectators of their encounter). 'Behold the strength of my arms.'--'Mark, how I have counteracted that feat,'--those were the words--intelligible to heroes alone--in which they addressed each other. And incensed at finding the strength and energy of Arjuna's arms unequalled on the earth, Karna, the son of Surya, fought with greater vigour. And parrying all those impetuous arrows shot at him by Arjuna, Karna sent up a loud shout. And this feat of his was applauded by all the warriors. Then addressing his antagonist, Karna said, 'O thou foremost of Brahmanas, I am gratified to observe the energy of thy arms that knoweth no relaxation in battle and thy weapons themselves fit for achieving victory. Art thou the embodiment of the science of weapons, or art thou Rama that best of Brahmanas, or Indra himself, or Indra's younger brother Vishnu called also Achyuta, who for disguising himself hath assumed the form of a Brahmana and mustering such energy of arms fighteth with me? No other person except the husband himself of Sachi or Kiriti, the son of Pandu, is capable of fighting with me when I am angry on the field of battle.'"

Karna only retreated because of the Brahma weapon
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well does it really matter .. who was greater among two.. as u urself said...each had his day.. i do understand ur anger as StarBharat is distorting the story too much.. but it is not only to glorify karna.. had it been the case.. Karna wud not have been missing from past 2 weeks... there have been distortions in many other cases too.. n not only virat war.. I feel that they are kind of rushing things and perhaps directly going to Kurukshetra war... thus these distortions...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Now I really wonder that what will happen to Kurukshetra!

Correction: Karna wasn't intoxicated during the Gandharva fight.
They had a plan to kill the pandavas through Chitrasena? I differ here. They all went to mock the pandavas along with their luxurious belongings but it backfired.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Buddy it was bhagdatt who used vaishnavastra not karna.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Completely twisting facts of Mahabharat, 🤢
as for as I remember reading that Arjun single handedly defeats everyone one during virat war
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Shruti

Now I really wonder that what will happen to Kurukshetra!

Correction: Karna wasn't intoxicated during the Gandharva fight.
They had a plan to kill the pandavas through Chitrasena? I differ here. They all went to mock the pandavas along with their luxurious belongings but it backfired.


No, not intoxicated but he was stupefied by the sorcery of the Gandharvas when they failed to contain him with might. They used the same spells on Pandas as well until Arjun called out to Chitrasen and they recognized each other as friends.

Actually they did have a plan to attack the Pandas but that was thwarted by Vyas' admonition before they could embark upon it.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi all, long time lurker, first time poster. 😊 Since we're talking about Karna and Arjun, I thought I would ask a question (one of many actually) that has been nagging me for a while.

So, Mahabharat tells us Karna was born with his divine armor (kavach & kundals) and that made him invulnerable to all weapons including divine weapons (divyastras). I can see the kavach & kundals working against ordinary/earthly weapons, but I just don't see how they would work against divine weapons. The kavach & kundals were made by Karna's divine father, Suryadev, and if my understanding is right Suryadev is just a second tier god in Hindu pantheon. Therefore, how could Suryadev's creation withstand the weapons (astras) of say, Lords Brahma (Brahmastra) and Shiva (Pashupatastra)? Now, it is true that weapons like Brahmastra and Pashupatastra were supposed to be used only in the defense of dharma. But, as Karna was fighting on the side of adharma, Arjun would have been justified in using those astras. Karna could have answered Arjun's Brahmastra with his own Brahmastra, thus resulting in a stalemate, but he would have no answer to Arjun's Pashupatastra resulting in his death despite the protection of his Suryadev given kavach and kundals.

Btw, did Arjun use Pashupatastra even once? If not, what was the purpose of getting it in the first place?

Thanks and I would love to hear your opinions. 😊

Edited by Nightstalker - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Nightstalker

Karna gave his kavach and kundala off before Virat yudha, He was not wearing kavach in kurukshetra.

It's not like a second tier gods shield cannot protect a person from a weapon of a 1st tier God. An inpenetrative shield cannot be penetrated by anything, be it any weapon.Krishna himself said that even his Sudarshan chakra cannot penetrate his kavach. Even if Arjuna fired the Pashupatastra while Karna had
His Kavach, it would have been of no use.

Arjuna wasn't like Ashwasthamma who would fire destructive weapons at anyone at anytime. Arjuna fired pashupatastra on Jaydrath. Arjuna always listened to Krishna, Krishna never told arjuna to fire Pashupatastra on karna, while he advised arjuna to fire that weapon on Jaydrath.
Edited by TheWatcher - 11 years ago

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