{| Doubts and Discussions about Mahabharata - 2 |} - Page 67

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Ananya, on the rest of what you wrote, there'd be no reason to manage the wives - they'd die whenever they did.  Even Draupadi, who was the first to die - when she fell, the Pandavas just moved on, and kept falling to their deaths one by one.

Chitrangada being in Hastinapur was no surprise - her dutiful place would have been next to Arjun while he was alive, but due to her responsibilities in raising Babru, she remained @ Manipur to the point that he became king.  Once they were in Hastinapur for the yagna, when it came time for Babru to return, Uloopi & Chitrangada remained w/ Arjun.  They only returned when it was time for Arjun to leave along w/ his bros.

But here too, I thought the surviving wives should have just accompanied their hubbies on that final journey.

P.S.  Why did Krishna ask Daruka to just fetch Arjun?  He could have given him the complete message to ask Yudhi to abdicate, turn over the kingdom to Parikshit and all 5 Pandavas to go to Dwarka & escort the survivors back to Mathura.  Arjun needlessly took 2 trips.

Originally posted by: ashne

Babruvahan would have been an adult by the end of the war, right. Considering that he was born during Arjun's vanvas. So Chitra being in Hastinapur, seems logical.  And he also fights Arjun, as a king, if I'm not mistaken during Ashwamedha.

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Ananya, on the rest of what you wrote, there'd be no reason to manage the wives - they'd die whenever they did.  Even Draupadi, who was the first to die - when she fell, the Pandavas just moved on, and kept falling to their deaths one by one.

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Bold above - IIRC, this happens before Vyasa gives everybody a darshan of their beloved dead.  When Dhrit wishes to see Dury & others, everybody is brought back.  Dhrit  & Gandhari get greeted by Dury & his bros, Kunti gets to meet Karna, who gets reconciled w/ the Pandavas.  Abhimanyu rejoins Subhadra & Uttara, Draupadi is joined by her 5 sons, Dhrishtadyumna, Drupada & others, and everyone comes together.

When it's time for the dead to leave, Vyasa invites the Kshatrani widows to cast off their bodies in the water and leave.  Nobody is named, but one can conclude that all the widows who were still living in Hastinapur under the care of the Pandavas got to rejoin their hubbies.  I therefore concluded that Uttara too used the opportunity to leave Parikshit w/ Arjun/Subhi and join Abhimanyu.

Here is the relevant citation - I mentioned that a few pages ago actually -on pg 69

Originally posted by: ananyacool

In Mahaprasthan only Yudhi and Bhima are talking. Conversation between Soul (Yudhi) and Vital breath /mukhya PraNa (Bhim) . P.V Vartak's research confirms that after the vital breath's release from the body, it takes interest in surrounding and is curious same goes to Bhima, he asks why each one is falling he is curious.

Draupadi the mouth piece of Pandavas/the speech falls first because in Upanishads its mentioned that when a body goes through natural death, it loses speech first! plus she is agni and agni is mouth of all devas so mouth/speech ceases first. The soul says that speech is partial to 'Mind' / Arjuna. So that is a lapse in  its part. Naku-Dev are eyes and ears respectively.

What is not mentioned is that extreme sadness grips their heart ( shokakul,shoksantaptaH) when Draupadi falls and they're not able to walk with same speed they were walking and soon fall down themselves. This what happens to Naku-Dev and Arjun . Yudhi too when meets Indra is pleading every now and then to take him to place where his brothers and wife are;conveniently forgotten by scholars/feminsts who have vested interests 

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

P.S.  Why did Krishna ask Daruka to just fetch Arjun?  He could have given him the complete message to ask Yudhi to abdicate, turn over the kingdom to Parikshit and all 5 Pandavas to go to Dwarka & escort the survivors back to Mathura.  Arjun needlessly took 2 trips.