Aliya lacks knowledge of her Deen

First Previous

Page

Frequent Posters

Sunshine

@SunShine_A

Trailblazer

+ 6

Posted: 11 years ago

#141

@Kabhi_kash- its same for shows. The way non muslims try learning about Islam for Islamic backdrop shows same way Non hindus learns fro Hindu background shows and shows often project out wrong messages and alternation in the religion in culture. Worst being the light in which Holi is being projected and non hindus saying its a romantic and intimate festival and its like a disrespect to festival of colours and love. Holi is for spreading love and happiness and not how shows project it. I saw people saying tht Holi is festival of intimacy which is against Islam and thats all wrong. Significance of Holi and its customs r much much different than whats cum onscreen only just to glamourise and show love moments of leads.

Quote

TVD-IANcrazy

@TVD-IANcrazy

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#142

Originally posted by: SunShine_A
@Kabhi_kash- its same for shows. The way non muslims try learning about Islam for Islamic backdrop shows same way Non hindus learns fro Hindu background shows and shows often project out wrong messages and alternation in the religion in culture. Worst being the light in which Holi is being projected and non hindus saying its a romantic and intimate festival and its like a disrespect to festival of colours and love. Holi is for spreading love and happiness and not how shows project it. I saw people saying tht Holi is festival of intimacy which is against Islam and thats all wrong. Significance of Holi and its customs r much much different than whats cum onscreen only just to glamourise and show love moments of leads.

I know u r not wrong...but I personally never watch any show to update my knowledge about religion and culture...I would rather go an ask my friends...I have a lot of non Muslim friends...I believe it would be better to ask them about Holi or Deewali or Christmas or any other festival...and I do ask them...these shows are just meant for entertainment purpose...they need to attract people for TRPs so they just flaunt n hype the things...and which do attract viewers...all I asked people to not learn anything from shows..just ask the knowledgable Muslimah.

Edited by KaBhi_KaSh - 11 years ago

Quote

Looks like you are new here. Register for free, learn and contribute.

Dsntmatter

@Dsntmatter

Navigator

Posted: 11 years ago

#143

Originally posted by: AnotherAdmirer

Thank You! Honestly I was worried about backlash. I am so glad that I am not the only one who thinks so! She has been lying a lot. And the clothes, wig. We all know about the ruling on artificial hair. Those extensions, fake lashes. All of them are a Big NO.

Ah the Non-mehram, mehram thing ! Don't even get me started. Aliya should observe care around Fahad too, yet she happily chats with Zain's friends.

True that. Allah Ki Laadli, initially it didn't, now it does, because it is turning hypocritical. Her actions are far from it.

Agree with everything in the posts except one thing:

'Muslim women are not even allowed to look at any ghair mehrem!'

Although I completely agree with the sentiment of the comment but it'd be a little too extreme to say we don't look at the opposite gender because many a times muslim women came to the Prophet (saw) asking their doubts and there was a time when Umar (ra) gave naseeha (advice) to the wives (one of the them being his daughter) of the Prophet (saw) when there was a slight problem in the marriage so there many facets of life where it's alright for non-mahrams to speak provided that it's for a valid reason and the conversation isn't informal but rather spoken with formality. Examples of such cases would be: teacher-student, government official and so on...

In regards to Aliyah - she's way too informal with Zain's friends. You can't go around talking about life and it's joy with non-mahrams. You can entertain guests but there should be formality and certain element of respect.

The Allah ki laadli statement sounds hypocritical to me too. Aliyah isn't turning out the way I initially thought she would. The creatives play the religion card according to their convenience - the lead wanting a waleema only because it Sunnah but what about all the Fardh rulings she keeps overlooking?!

Quote

Dsntmatter

@Dsntmatter

Navigator

Posted: 11 years ago

#144

Originally posted by: Taniya20
Honestly, where i come from, a person's nature and intentions matter more than anything. When that is good and he/she is good at heart rest all can be ignored... My personal opinion is appearance doesn't define a person...

She is not even allowed to lie for some good to happen is something that surprised me.😳... After all we are all humans before we belonged to any of the religions that exist in this world... And I refuse to believe any such person(who never lied in his/her life) exists in this world...

P.S: Please ignore if my comment is offensive...

Nothing offensive, just to clear a few points if you haven't been replied to already.

A muslim is allowed to lie in three condition

-During times of war

-If a man or a woman compliments their spouses to please the other one. Example:

Wife: Is the food good honey?

Man: I have never tasted anything better (when in reality he can barely swallow a bite without offending his tastebuds)

But not in such cases:

Wife: Did you steal my jwellery?

Man: Ofcourse not darling. I would never displease you like that. [I hope you get the point]

-In case of settling a dispute between two people who are fighting.

So in essence if Aliyah lied to settle the dispute between her brother in law and mother in law then its alright if thats her intention at heart but lying for petty reasons like working up her husband is not allowed.

And of course appearance doesn't define a person but just like any other religion Islam comes with it's own set of rules and one of them is modesty. In islam being modest is a must. And it doesn't matter if its a man or a woman (actually in Quran, the issue of modesty is first raised in reference to men rather than women). Under the ruling of modesty, a man should lower his gaze when a woman passes by and a woman should dress according to islamic standards. Islam has its own definition of modesty, just like any other society. In the east, wearing short skirts is immodest while in the west they're fine. Islam has it's own perspective of what is acceptable and what is not and it's compulsory only upon those who accept faith. You can't impose these rules on those of do not accept being a muslim. For example you join a school and it has it's own rules, you don't have to follow them if you haven't joined but if you VOLUNTARILY join then you must follow the rules or leave the school; the choice is still yours. Aliyah has accepted faith and is being portrayed as a "religious" person so it makes no sense for her to not follow her faith in accordance.

Now you are absolutely free to disagree since this is just my opinion and I'm no scholar but I hope you understand my point of view a bit better

Quote

Dsntmatter

@Dsntmatter

Navigator

Posted: 11 years ago

#145

Originally posted by: Neha_malhotra

I don't think you should use the term "Muslims are not like that" my reason for saying that would be i have lots of friends who where clothing like Aliya did in the show.It does not mean they disrespect there morals or there god.I think it's more of an individual choice .

And about lies , isn't that human nature ? Don't we all lie ? I agree her lies are going over the top.But to save fawad's reputation the guy who called her his sister she kept quite i guess she was just fulfilling her duty there . And what she did with zain was exactly what he did to her isn't that what watch the show for ? The nok jhoks ? I don't mean that in any sort of mean way Im sorry if that sounds rude.

And about Holi ! Lot's of muslims that are based in India do celebrate it in fact here in new york my neighbors celebrate diwali even though there Muslim i think it's a individual choice.

Please do correct me if im wrong .I just don't agree with your opinion does not mean your opinion's wrong i just personal don't agree.

And before people start bashing me . I'm not muslim i don't have that much information on it . im just going according my muslim friends perspectives . I myself am fascinated my the islamic culture/religon .

sorry if i hurt your feeling 😊

i found this inspirational ,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_Gw5FcVUtk

Holi celebrated by Hindus and Muslims in Uttar Pradesh

Hey!

First of all the question isn't about how muslims in general are because there are many things the Prophet (SAW) banned but muslims still shamelessly do it like racism. The Prophet (SAW) in many situations stopped the people from being racists in 6th century when the world wasn't even aware that being a racist is a bad thing, it was a norm yet the Prophet (SAW) ]spoke against but now, 1400 years later muslims are still being racists to one another so the issue isn't about what muslims see as acceptable, the issue is of what Aliyah sees as acceptable. She is shown as a believing muslim (the one part when she insisted on waleema because it was sunnah - meaning something that the Prophet [pbuh] recommended but it's not obligatory upon muslims) and then goes around wearing a revealing dress which could have been avoided. It would be completely believable if she wore a burqa since her husband was posing as an Arab - I live in Arab and trust me Arab who uphold their culture enough to wear a kandoora (the outfit Zain was wearing) in a formal party wouldn't have spouses who dress like that. It didn't make sense, forget about the religious perspective, it lost the battle on the common sense grounds.

And yes muslims are allowed to celebrate occasions provided it has no religious meaning. Like a muslim can't attend a durga pooja because its a festival in his home town because it holds a certain meaning in the hindu culture. It would be demeaning to the durga pooja if a muslim treats it like an ordinary senseless custom rather than a custom with religious depth and devotion. As a muslim you have to respect other religions (its a must) but don't take part in them if it contradicts your beliefs. It all comes to what does holi stand for and I don't know what it stands for so I don't know if it allowed or not but regardless muslims must respect the tradition.

I'd like to mention here, that this is my naive opinion, please don't take as law of the muslim society so if you find the answer unsatisfactory you could ask muslim scholars online who are actually capable of dealing with these questions :)

Quote

Maryam Khan

@-Maryam.K-

Dazzler

+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

#146

Okay, TBH I am not going to lie, I am a muslim who wears mini dresses e.t.c and my parents are not religious neither am I(I still pray 5 times a day, fast on Ramadhan, give charity e.t.c).

BUT Aliya and her family are religious and they actually letted her wear all those? I mean like her family has a reputation. I never expected that from her!!

Quote

1 ... 11 12 13 14 15

Aliya lacks knowledge of her Deen - Page 15

Holi celebrated by Hindus and Muslims in Uttar Pradesh

Related Topics

Explore Topics