No Sympathy for Pathetic Zain..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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1) First he played games with Aaliya and made her believe he was Zeeshan, and thus her wedding with Zeeshan did not go through.. I know Zeeshan was an idiot, but still Zain played a part in the wedding not happening.

2) He did not even realise or understand that his big joke about being Zeeshan and ruining a family's and a girl's respect was not a joke! He wouldn't accept that he was at fault, and continued blaming Aaliya.

3) When his father told him about the Nikaah, did he reject it? NO. He didn't want to hurt his father. But he didn't see that it was wrong of him to ask Aaliya to say no to her father, and allow her to get all the blame for the Nikaah not happening. Some guy he is, he was a coward, and couldn't care less about anyone else. As long as he didn't get the blame and as long as he didn't hurt his father it was fine. That was selfish and immature, and yet still he fails to see his own fault in the whole situation.

4) Without even thinking or asking Aaliya he blames her for everything that goes wrong. He's not a mummy's boy, he's just an idiot who doesn't use his brain.🥱

And then today..
He showed how much of a coward he is. He needed to get drunk in order to express how he feels.
Today after the marriage has happened he is expressing that he hates Aaliya and he didn't want to marry her.
Why didn't he say that before the Nikaah happened?

He was stating that he married Aaliya for his dad's sake, for his respect etc.
If he was going to ruin his dad's respect like that in front of so many people then what was the point in caring about it before? Surely what he did today is worse than him saying no to the Nikaah before? But I guess he's too stupid to understand that.

Today he is going against his father and is asking Aaliya for a divorce.
Why didn't he before the Nikaah, why ruin a girls life like that? If was going to divorce her, then why marry her for your father's sake?

He says everything is his dad's fault, that his dad made him get married.
But I'm sorry, I thought it was Zain that said Manzoor Hai/Qubool Hai? This for me was the part that made me hate him the most. He never takes responsibility for his actions! Why speak out now when it's too late? It's not brave or courageous, it just shows how stupid and immature he is.

My main point is Zain saying that he married Aaliya under his dad's pressure and for his dad's sake seems so stupid as today he went against his father, and he could've done it then but he chose not to. Now that it's too late and he's married, he thinks it's cool going against his dad and publicly embarrassing his dad and Aaliya by asking for a divorce and trying to humilate his dad. He clearly thinks marriage is a game, that when he wants he can just end it.

He went from loving his dad so much that he couldn't even utter the word NO in front of him to publicly humiliating him with then space of a week. How realistic.

I didn't feel sorry for him at all.


Edit..
Just as a side note I would like to make it clear that I loved Zain's character before. He was a happy-go-lucky guy, who lived life by his own rules. He stuck to what he believed was right, and he took the right decisions for himself, but I feel they've let that go. He comes from a complex family, where things aren't perfect and he is treated like a kid who gets away with everything, but even then there was a sensitivity and maturity in him, and he understood other people's emotions and did what was right, but that's disappeared somewhere. Now he is starting to act like his mother. I know he is hurting, but I don't think that's a good enough reason to be like this now, he should've said no to the Nikaah to begin with.
I don't mind the betrayed hurt Zain, but I hate the Zain who is blindly following his mum.🥱


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Posted: 11 years ago
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I respect your opinion. But I disagree with your points.
Vaise I intend to make a post on Zain anyways. Will elaborate here after that :)

Res.

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Zain is immature. We have seen that from the first episode itself. I do not expect him to understand the kind of direction people's thoughts would go if he is seen alone with a girl. In London & Mumbai, people do not start thinking stuff if a guy even hugs a girl. For a guy like Zain, who has grown up around such open minded thinking...well it'd be surprising if he knew what things might be thought up in a small town like Bhopal where he has never been to before. And for that matter...did Aliya ever ask him to back off either? He pranked, she retaliated, he teased her, & she never clearly asked him to maintain distance either did she. Even though she was FROM Bhopal, she couldn't guess the things Zee's mom would accuse her & Zain's proximity of. Zain wasn't selfishly doing what he wanted without caring about Aliya's reputation, because he didn't KNOW that it would do ANYTHING to her reputation. And neither was he told. His Pups allowed him to take Aliya out alone TWICE without giving him an inkling of what distances he should maintain, or what people might think.

And then the nikaah. Yes, Zain straight out asked Aliya to say no to her father to both of them. But again, did ALIYA ask him to go look for another option either? Did she protest & say it was too much of a responsibility? Without a moment of hesitation, she told him that she would get the nikaah broken by saying no to her dad & promised to do so. She, along with him agreed that it was the ONLY option because no one else, least of all Usman was willing to listen to them. If both of them agreed that Aliya saying no was their only chance, why is only Zain getting blamed fo this incident every time?

As for not accepting his faults, on the contrary, he acknowledged his mistakes & apologised to Aliya even AFTeR he got slapped by his dad after 24 years, for her. His hatred started because she herself assured him & agreed to him to free them of this marriage & then said yes. As for saying no to the marriage, he DID say no to his dad, to his mom & his family. He even tried calmly talking to Usman & giving him the option of looking for another guy for Aliya. Its because Usman was so hellbent on his decision that he went to Aliya in the first place. Aliya's family were his RELATIVES, as close as he may have gotten to him in his few days of stay. How was he supposed to say no to THEM? He did say he didn't want to do the nikaah to his own family, but it didn't work. What else was he supposed to do? Run away from his wedding like Suraiyya suggested?

As far as going to Suraiyya is concerned, honestly I didn't like it either. I would have preffered if his actions were his own like refusing to run away from the nikaah in Bhopal. I am hoping that Zain soon stops depending on his mom & takes matters into his own hands. But honestly speaking...its basic human nature, when one is angry or hurt, we like & want the support of people & turn to them without thinking about whether they are right & wrong. He has earlier gone against his mother when he is thinking clearly, but in his extremely emotional state, especially when he feels looked over by his favourite parent over Aliya, he finds comfort in her support, a fact which she uses very well. He hss brains, he's just not using them right now in his resentful & furious state.

As for the outburst...of course it wasn't brave or courageous. It wasn't supposed to be either. Yes he loves & cares for his dad. But he had simply reached his saturation point. He didn't start blasting off stuff in front of the media that day in the orphanage did he? He couldn't hold back his frustration & feelings of neglect anymore. In his whole outburst, the only thing I could hear was how frustrated he was with the fact that Usman had all the care for Aliya & didn't seem to give damn about HIM. As a viewer, I could easily see what could have driven him to think so, hence I could empathise with him. When he gives Usman another option of looking for another guy for Aliya, he refuses because he thinks that Zain is the only person for whom he can give guarantee for ALIYA's happiness. He did not say that he cpuld give guarantee for ZAIN's happiness. We know Usman feels that way but Zain hasn't heard it from him, not in a way which will make him believe that he truly feels so. When Usman thought Zain had locked out Aliya, he simply told him that Aliya was his responsibilty rather than sitting down & talking to him patiently & making him REALISE his responsibility. To an already frustrated Zain, all this can so easily be indications that his Usman is choosing his bhanji over his son, & is disregarding his feelings.

In all of the above, I am not blaming Aliya or Usman, nor do I wish to imply that Aliya deserves the treatment she is gettimg or that she isn't hurting. Everything above is keeping Zain & his POV in mind. I just empathise with both of them & wish with all my heart that the hatred becomes equalised soon rather than this whole one torturer, other tortured scenario. A recent message said that Aliya will give it back to Zain soon so yeah...Fingers crossed :)
Edited by ..DamonCrazy.. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Bang on.
You know in all this, I'm just thinking like, is Zain forgetting he played and messed with Aaliyah, and that he WAS attracted to her in the beginning. Even after the whole him not being Zeeshan thing was revealed, he kept flirting with her and playing games. Say if Zeeshan wasn't a creep and actually a nice guy, he still was the one to ruin her relationship.
I liked him in the beginning, I really did. I loved his carefree attitude and his charm and flirtatious ways. But the day he tried to blame Aaliyah for her marriage breaking, (and Usman slapped him which i was like Dayumm right on!) I was just like ugh. I even felt bad for him in the beginning, I could understand his anger and hurt when Aaliyah agreed to the marriage, but that doesn't mean you treat her like dirt.
He's been crossing the limits, and it's not even about his mom influencing him. He's just taking it too far. And you're right, he's a dumbass. He wants to embarrass Aaliyah and make her look bad, but in all this he doesn't realize he's making himself look bad, and questioning his parents upbringing. And don't get me started on his dear mother. She doesn't stop to think that people are going to question her and her husband. Is this the kind of guy your son is? Who drinks and creates a scene infront of people. Aaliyah isn't the one who's going to look bad, HIM and his family are.
Zain reminds me of the typical desi boy (I say this because I know plenty of his kind) where they are hand fed everything, and given everything on a gold platter, and for THEIR mistakes, love to put the blame on their parents or anyone else around them but themselves. They blame others for everything going wrong in their life.
But that's the thing. That's always been Zain, this spoiled little brat who doesn't know how to take responsibility for his own actions. We saw that the day of the Nikah when he put the blame on Aaliyah, and now again when he's doing the same with his father and Aaliyah again. I hope his dad b*tchslaps him again tomorrow. Shit I know I would if that were my kid. He wants to create a scene or tamasha as they call it, I'd give him one.
This also has a lot to do with his upbringing on his mother's part. His mother is like that, so I can see where he gets it from.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree with you and I too have no Sympathy for the Coward Zain.

He is a pathetic spoilt spineless coward that wants to blame everyone but himself and not take responsibility for the mess he created in Aliya's wedding.

All this dumb drama after marriage is ridiculous because it really shows what he really thinks of his father and that he is more like his conniving mother who is also hell bent on destroying a young woman's life.

Will they show the same spunk that Aliya first had or is she going to take all this unfair abuse sitting down and letting both Zain and his mother get away with humiliating her.

This show had some promise at first and is slowly but surely sliding off on a slippery slope. The CV's better have a better script than what is seen so far.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Disagree...!!!

Its both Zain and Aaliya at fault and the situations which were not in their favour

Story is gng awesome and i dnt think they have slipped anywhere...And wat i like is less OTT drama ...!!!

Zain's Outburst is fully Justified...Come on its obvious..Even i ll react in that way if i am forced to marry a girl under pressure of Elders...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -AkkiLuvsNBT-

Disagree...!!!

Its both Zain and Aaliya at fault and the situations which were not in their favour

Story is gng awesome and i dnt think they have slipped anywhere...And wat i like is less OTT drama ...!!!

Zain's Outburst is fully Justified...Come on its obvious..Even i ll react in that way if i am forced to marry a girl under pressure of Elders...


I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

Zain had ample time to tell Aliya who he really was before it got so far.

Zain should have had the outburst when his father asked him to marry Aliya NOT after the deed was done.

And there is a marked difference in Aliya's behaviour. She now seems to just take all of Zain's abuse with a sappy face. What happened to the Aliya of before when she gave him tit for tat.

And the scene that Zain did today is way over the top of somebody who says he loves and respects his father.

And if it is both their faults that they are in this marriage then WHY is only Zain behaving like he was the only one wronged.

He agreed to the marriage and if he really did not want to stay in it then he could have gone to his father in private and explained to him his situation and come to a reasonable conclusion.
That would have been a mature decision. Not humiliate his father and family in front of all the guests.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I totally agree with..yesterday he crossed all the limits..IDIOT
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I can feel Zain's pain, but have no sympathy for him. Wanna see Aliya fight back, she's not happy w/ the marriage either but at least she trying to make it work.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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well,,
i didn't read the whole thing it was too Long Man!

my POV:

i have sympathies both with Zain n Aliya...

on Zain's part:

Zain played... he said sorry,, (but he sidn't played from Day 1...it was Destiny ps misunderstandings)

he is very right at his position,,,

look @ his position... a free to go guy... suddenly handcuffed with the grl he hated most... then that grl who could easily make the whole family stop,, herself back-offed (whatever the reason was)
then that grl is interfering in each n evry matter of his life...
then that grl is caught in wrong accusations like the food prob.. like shopping mall drama,,
then that room lock thing...

he is unaware of all the conspiracy made by his Mom and Bhabis...
he is just too harmless...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Maliha-

well,,
i didn't read the whole thing it was too Long Man!

my POV:

i have sympathies both with Zain n Aliya...

on Zain's part:

Zain played... he said sorry,, (but he sidn't played from Day 1...it was Destiny ps misunderstandings)

<font color="#CC0000">he is very right at his position,,,</font>

look @ his position... a free to go guy... suddenly handcuffed with the grl he hated most... then that grl who could easily make the whole family stop,, herself back-offed (whatever the reason was)
then that grl is interfering in each n evry matter of his life...
then that grl is caught in wrong accusations like the food prob.. like shopping mall drama,,
then that room lock thing...

he is unaware of all the conspiracy made by his Mom and Bhabis...
he is just too harmless...

totally agree with u
I was going to say all this but didnt know how to say it though 😆

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